Great idea!Raiders112390 said:I wanna see Indy in 1968 with the Stones.
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Great idea!
Don Draper hires him to bring them in, afted his own failed attempt at the NY gig.
Raiders112390 said:I've said this before, and no one believed me, but LF is waiting for Harrison to die. KK dislikes him for ideological reasons, and they see him as an obstacle for filmmaking reasons. They view him as an albatross, his presence in the film a Catch 22. What better way to relaunch Indy than on the back of the public's memory of Harrison? They will capitalize on Gen X's grief and such. I will say it now: You will not see an Indy film until Harrison Ford passes away.
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FordFan said:I call bullcrap. Speculation run amok.
Ford did "The Force Awakens", which was huge for Kennedy. She needed that movie to do well, and it did, in some part because of Ford.
She decided to make a standalone of "Solo" and Ford didn't badmouth it at all. He even praised Ehrenreich's performance, even if he secretly could've not liked it at all.
Spielberg wants an Indy 5 with Ford in it. I wouldn't bet against him.
Yes, I think it would have worked a few years ago.Raiders112390 said:You know, even though he's a little older, I wouldn't mind Jon Hamm as Indy. What do you think? He's got that old school actor Cary Grant vibe where I could see him portraying both the Adventurer and Professor sides of Indy well. Like, my main issue with Chris Pratt is I CANNOT see him in front of a classroom or being an "expert on the occult." He's too goofy. You'd have to go for a more comedic, irreverent approach with him. Whereas Hamm for me has the deep voice, the no BSness....
Raiders112390 said:You know, even though he's a little older, I wouldn't mind Jon Hamm as Indy. What do you think? He's got that old school actor Cary Grant vibe where I could see him portraying both the Adventurer and Professor sides of Indy well. Like, my main issue with Chris Pratt is I CANNOT see him in front of a classroom or being an "expert on the occult." He's too goofy. You'd have to go for a more comedic, irreverent approach with him. Whereas Hamm for me has the deep voice, the no BSness....
Z dweller said:Yes, I think it would have worked a few years ago.
But at 47 he's too old to make more than one movie, particularly if Disney plan to do prequels.
Raiders112390 said:What audience is there for Indy now? How do you sell a fifth Indy film in 2020 with or without Harrison Ford? I mean, Tomb Raider should've been a hit and it bombed. The Mummy bombed. Solo, another adventure type of film, bombed. You don't think Disney is taking notes and going "Hmm...Is this a good idea?"
I also disagree with your belief that Spielberg wants an Indy 5. He didn't even want an Indy 4. He had to be dragged into that, and a lot of it had to do with fan demand. Outside of this forum there is no real demand for a new Indy film. Not like there was from 92 to 07, anyway; From what I have seen most seem apathetic or opposed to the idea. Fan demand is a big reason we got Indy 4. Steven has stated many times that he wanted to leave Indy back in 1989 and do more "mature" work...And I really doubt that his view has changed much in the past 29 years.
Variety: Steven, "Weekend at Indy's" is quite a departure from the type of movie we've come to expect of you. What convinced you to make it?Raiders112390 said:Steven has stated many times that he wanted to leave Indy back in 1989 and do more "mature" work...And I really doubt that his view has changed much in the past 29 years.
FordFan said:Pratt is Seann William Scott with a better agent. I love the guy, he seems really cool, but he needs to stop emerging as the heir apparent to beloved franchises.
I enjoyed Hamm as Don Draper, but I think he's a very limited actor.
If we're going to talk about a new actor to replace Harrison Ford, can we talk about how difficult it is to choose anyone with any actual grit?
Z dweller said:Variety: Steven, "Weekend at Indy's" is quite a departure from the type of movie we've come to expect of you. What convinced you to make it?
Spielberg: You know, after the disastrous "Temple of Doom" I realized that only abundant lashings of goofy comedy could rescue the series.
The problem with both "Crusade" and "Skull" was that there wasn't quite enough of it.
But with this last episode I think we redresed the balance.
And we were able to shoot the entire movie in my living room, which is nice.
Not to mention the savings on Harrison's insurance!
Yes, Hamm would definitely be good enough for Indy, and I agree that a 40s setting would fit his persona very well.Raiders112390 said:Hamm carried Don Draper well and IMO Draper is a more nuanced and complex character than Indy. Ford himself is a pretty wooden actor if we're being honest. He is not bad, but, he pretty much plays the same sort of character in almost all his movies.
No, I cannot agree with that, sorry.Raiders112390 said:You know, honestly as greedy as I am for more Indy a part of me has begun to feel that Indy (or perhaps Steven) ran out of gas after TOD. LC for me is saved only by River Phoenix's amazing intro and by the interplay between Harrison and Connery. Take away Connery and you have a film which has all the problems of Skull (including assassination of established characters, goofy humor, a listless Indy by numbers feel, a certain sense of fatigue that comes through in the direction....). Do you agree?
Z dweller said:Yes, Hamm would definitely be good enough for Indy, and I agree that a 40s setting would fit his persona very well.
But as I said, realistically that would only work for one movie, and then?
Prequels are more viable commercially as you can choose a guy in his early 30s and go on for several movies.
Raiders112390 said:Hamm carried Don Draper well and IMO Draper is a more nuanced and complex character than Indy. Ford himself is a pretty wooden actor if we're being honest. He is not bad, but, he pretty much plays the same sort of character in almost all his movies.
Raiders112390 said:Like I asked the other guy: How do you sell Indiana Jones, w/ or w/out Harrison in 2018? What is the hook?
Udvarnoky said:What was the hook in 2008?