Koepp Script
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herr gruber
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I wonder how much of Darabont and Nathanson's work he pillaged?
Dr.Sartorius
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Jeb Stuart, Jeffrey Boam, Darabont, and Nathanson better get writing credit if Koepp really used major elements from all of their scripts. Its pretty obvious Saucer Men From Mars was an influcence on Koepp.
herr gruber
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According to the credits on indianajones.com , Mr Koepp is the sole ideas man...
Dr.Sartorius
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herr gruber said:
That could always change. We'll see a more final version of the credits closer to the release date.
herr gruber
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Dr.Sartorius said:
I hope that is true, but something tells me that Koepp is gonna be 'Solo Creditman From The Planet No-One Else Included'.
Thats just it. All of these various writers have been likely working with the same basic premise and core ideas. Which all have come from Lucas. Just because there are similarities between the different scripts does not mean Koepp copied from the previous writers. It just mean they were all working with the same overall themes. So determining a percentage of "Who did what?" could be hard.
it good!Hmm...I'm not sure what I think about this.
Do you guys prefer a "greatest hits" with the best bits from each writer, or a "pure" singular vision from just one person?
I understand that they were working with the same basic set of material, but it sounds as if Koepp actually took specific parts from other scripts.
I hope it doesn't feel disjointed.
Do you guys prefer a "greatest hits" with the best bits from each writer, or a "pure" singular vision from just one person?
I understand that they were working with the same basic set of material, but it sounds as if Koepp actually took specific parts from other scripts.
I hope it doesn't feel disjointed.
commontone
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I don't think it will be disjointed. I think of it more as an "adapted screenplay" almost; adapted from several previous drafts. It's probably not unlike adapting a novel. You try to get the existing good stuff (that will work on the screen) in, but paring things down and shaping things correctly will require some new insights too.
And, Spielberg is working "from a script," not reproducing its every detail with the utmost accuracy. It's been said he was totally open to new ideas from the actors while filming scenes...he himself probably introduced plenty of new ideas or fleshed them out from the screenplay.
It seems like no matter how the script came into being, the whole movie ends up being a "greatest hits" reel from all involved, I think, at least the way Spielberg is known to work...and then the editing process makes the best out of it all.
And, Spielberg is working "from a script," not reproducing its every detail with the utmost accuracy. It's been said he was totally open to new ideas from the actors while filming scenes...he himself probably introduced plenty of new ideas or fleshed them out from the screenplay.
It seems like no matter how the script came into being, the whole movie ends up being a "greatest hits" reel from all involved, I think, at least the way Spielberg is known to work...and then the editing process makes the best out of it all.
Kingsley
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Commontone, you are totally right. Script matters, a lot, but in the end its only a guide for Spielberg. A lot of the magic is in the details, and many arent in the script.
The rythm, the mood, the tone... they cant be determined in some written lines. There is where the actors performances, the camera movements, the lighting, the music and the editing take charge to convert some "soulless" words in some paper sheets into a cineamtical experience
The rythm, the mood, the tone... they cant be determined in some written lines. There is where the actors performances, the camera movements, the lighting, the music and the editing take charge to convert some "soulless" words in some paper sheets into a cineamtical experience
ResidentAlien
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Obviously most of you guys have never seen a shooting script.
Sure, early drafts won't have much in-script direction. But the shooting draft does.
Koepp will be just as much to blame as Spielberg and Lucas if this thing blows.
Sure, early drafts won't have much in-script direction. But the shooting draft does.
Koepp will be just as much to blame as Spielberg and Lucas if this thing blows.
commontone
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Actually I've looked at the shooting script of several movies; Chinatown, Brokeback Mountain, 2001 to name a few. I watched the movies with the script in front of me. Polanski rewrote much of the original Chinatown script. The result is fairly detailed, down to individual gestures, but even so there are a million ways to do those details...
ResidentAlien
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commontone said:
I just read the shooting script for Chinatown last week actually. For a class.
Full of "Angle On's" and "Close-Ups," etc. That's directing on page.
commontone
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oki9Sedo said:
The whole point is, that dialogue is subject to the changing and tweaking of Spielberg and the actors, during the filming process.
residentalien, I wasn't in film school per se, but I've also taken film studies and media production classes at UM-Twin Cities. I don't really want to argue, but you're trying to point out that I must be a "layperson" or something. Whatever. Now that I've been out of school a few years I realize how little it actually adds to your credibility, in the real world...
ResidentAlien
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commontone said:
I'm only pointing out that actual shooting scripts are full of direction. They aren't just a blue-print. They're a verbal version of the film.