Raiders112390 said:
However, there is a bit of duality between his Henry Jones, Jr. persona and his adventurer persona. He takes pride in being an IMMINENT ARCHAEOLOGIST and as we've seen in ToD and KOTCS, he doesn't at all appreciate being branded a "grave robber". On campus and in professional life, he's a mild mannered, glasses wearing Professor who gets embarassed when a female student expresses an attraction to him. In the field, he's a rugged, unshaven, two fisted, cursing womanizer. It isn't quite as clear as Batman or Superman, but I would say there is a bit of difference between "Indy" and "Dr. Henry Jones, Jr."
"IMMINENT"?
You must mean, EMINENT, as Chatter Lal calls him. Was Indy "rugged & unshaven" during his adventures in Shanghai & Venice? Would a mild mannered professor climb out his office window? Did he not begin womanizing Willie while dressed as the nerdy professor? As for his reaction to the student's flirting, that seems due to bewilderment towards HOW she flirted, rather than him being embarassed. (If you want to analyze that aspect further, let's take it over to this thread:
Eye (Love You) Lid girl in Raiders)
Obviously, there is a bit of a difference/duality between the professor and the adventurer but it's NOT an ALTERNATE IDENTITY. No matter what he wears, Dr. Jones is Dr. Jones, a man who doesn't disguise himself as a mysterious, crime-fighting vigilante.
Raiders112390 said:
He technically doesn't wear "normal clothes". While the leather jacket, khakis, shirt and whip aren't the same as a cape and whatnot, they're also not an ensemble that was common to the average 1930s American (Willie even comments on this, sarcastically asking if Indy is supposed to be a lion tamer).
No. no & no. "Technically", his clothes ARE normal. A whip isn't an article of clothing and hats, jackets, shirts, pants & boots are regular items that people wear/wore everyday. His clothes aren't skin-tight, custom-made duds and are nothing out of the ordinary for the poor, average, working class man of 1930s America during the Great Depression. (Indy looks like a truck driver from a Teamsters union!)
Plus, the 'lion tamer' comment was largely due to the whip. Notice that she says it right when Indy walks by holding the coiled whip directly in front of her face. When Willie describes her life in Shanghai (while sitting in the puddle) it's obvious that her social circle is high-class and she meets Indy while he is dressed in a dashing tuxedo. As everyone knows, first impressions mean a lot. Willie's 'lion tamer' remark reflects much more about HER snobby character than it does about Indy's 'adventure' attire being abnormal.
Anyway, Raiders112390, you're contradicting yourself AGAIN!
In
another thread, you wrote:
"Indy manages to fit in quite well with both the Depression era '30s and the Eisenhower '50s. He doesn't seem all that out of place, and the central elements of his 'look'--The leather jacket, fedora, slacks--are at the very least common enough not to be considered strange."
Raiders112390 said:
For whatever reason, Indy chooses to wear a VERY specific outfit when he goes out into the field or on an adventure, much like a superhero wears his/her costume when they are doing their thing.
No. Indy prefers to wear a particular outfit in the field because it suits the purpose: Durable dress that can withstand scrapes & tumbles. It isn't worn as a costumed disguise in order to hide his identity.
Raiders112390 said:
Outside of the secret lair, he is in some ways like Zorro. Diego de La Vega, like Dr. Henry Jones, is the man you--at first glance--would least expect to be a dashing hero; You wouldn't expect the foppish de La Vega to be a suave and cunning swordsman; likewise, you wouldn't expect the tweed and bow tie wearing, neat and orderly professor to be a mercenary for hire archaeologist. Both don't conceal their voice. Both have 'help'--Indy had Marcus to make his adventures look like legitimate expeditions; Zorro has Bernardo.
Zorro IS NOT a superhero!
But since you're using him as a comparison, it must be pointed out that:
- Unlike Dr. Jones, Zorro hides his identity with a mask!
- Unlike Dr. Jones, Zorro uses a completely different name!
- Unlike Dr. Jones, Zorro DOES CHANGE HIS VOICE (and his accent) in the '30s serials!
- Your Marcus = Bernardo comparison is so ridiculous that it's not even worth debating.
Raiders112390 said:
Also, not all superheroes wear logos on their chest.
I never said that "all" superheroes wear logos on their chests. I simply said that Indy "DOESN'T HAVE A LOGO ON HIS CHEST". (An empty rebuttal on your part.)
The bottom line is: "Crystal Skull" and "The Dark Knight" were both released in 2008 and any other similarity is just plain wank. (Pre-internet 1989, I personally never heard anyone compare "Last Crusade" to Tim Burton's "Batman" movie..and that's probably because superhero/Batman lovers weren't part of my circle back then.
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