Young Indiana's Coin Collection

Stoo

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Here's another one:

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WilliamBoyd8

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The coin is a Peru Sol, a coin similar in size to a US silver dollar.
They were made from 1864 to 1935.
"Sol" is Sun, Peru's name for the dollar.

Here is an example from 1924:

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Peru 1 Sol 1924

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Stoo

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Whoa! Funny that you showed a 1924 because that's the same year as Indy's.:D Here's the front of his:

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Indy probably got this one 12 years after it was issued...when he was in Peru looking for a certain, golden idol.

Since both sides of a Peruvian Sol are used in the book, the number of coins is decreased to 8 (or less). I doubt any of them will stump WilliamBoyd. Like Forrestal, he's good...He's very, very good.;)
 

WilliamBoyd8

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DVD Introduction bottom shows ancient Roman coin

I have tried to identify this coin in the DVD Introduction but can not
find a match to an actual coin.

Young Indiana Jones would probably own an ancient Roman coin.
Ancient coins are the most portable of ancient artifacts, many are inexpensive,
and he could have gotten one anywhere during his travels.

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The DVD bottom coin is highlighted in blue

The DVD coin, taken from a larger image of the DVD introduction:
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This coin is hard to identify as the picture is dark and only part of the coin is visible.
I was not able to come up with a match in any online or print coin catalog.
It appears to be an ancient Roman coin with a woman's head facing left
and the legend "ROMA" at the bottom.

The DVD coin has a planchet crack below the "R", a common defect in ancient coins.
The figure on the coin is might be the Greek goddess Tyche or the Egyptian god Serapis,
both of whom wore similar crowns on their heads.

From the size of the DVD coin British Halfcrown, the coin is around 25mm in diameter,
and appears to be copper or bronze.
The closest Roman coin in size would be a bronze "As" or a larger Roman provincial coin.
Some Roman provinces, such as Egypt or Greece, had their own money.

Of course, I could be misreading the inscription "ROMA" or the design,
I did check for other designs and legends, but could not find a better match.

:)
 

WilliamBoyd8

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Another coin shows up in "Young Indiana Jones", well sort of.

From the episode "Demons of Deception", set in France during World War I.

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This poster shows a French gold "Rooster" coin attacking a German soldier.
The coins were minted in 10 and 20 Franc sizes from 1899 to 1914.

The poster was designed by Abel Faivre in 1915 and reads:
Pour la France VERSEZ VOTRE OR (For France, pour your gold)
L'Or Combat Pour La Victoire (The gold fights for Victory)

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Stoo

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WilliamBoyd8 said:
I have tried to identify this coin in the DVD Introduction but can not find a match to an actual coin.
Good eye, Mr. Boyd! That coin is buried in the shadows. If anyone can identify it, it's you. Will try to get a better screen grab but can't promise anything.
WilliamBoyd8 said:
This poster shows a French gold "Rooster" coin attacking a German soldier.
WOW. Nice going. Do you have one of these? I'll have to keep my eye out for this poster the next time I watch that episode...

On a side note: Someone was selling Roman coins at a street market here recently but I passed on them because they seemed over-priced. I might be able to get something better in Italy this summer. You've inspired me, WilliamBoyd!:hat:
 

WilliamBoyd8

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Indy's Roman Coin Identified - Nero Sestertius

I believe that I was able to identify the Roman coin in the DVD introduction.
The introduction displays a box full of souvenirs, including some coins.

The coin appears to be a Nero Sestertius with the "Roma Seated" design.
The 1st century emperors Galba, Vespasian, and Titus also issued this type.
It may be a modern replica as the box coin appears to be smaller than a sestertius.

The design shows "Roma" personified as a woman in armor, seated, next to a shield.
The word "ROMA" appears at the bottom of the coin.

The DVD coin, taken from a larger image of the DVD introduction:
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A Nero sestertius:
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Ancient coin dies were cut by hand and the images for the same coin type
could vary from artist to artist, so the coin would not be an exact match.

Since only the reverse side of the coin is visible, it is not possible
to tell which emperor issued the coin, but Galba, Vespasian, and Titus
issued only one or two types and Nero issued many, so it is probably Nero.

The "Roma Seated" design has been used many times over the years,
it appeared on the reverse of the pre-decimal British pennies.

A real Nero Sestertius of this type in good condition is an expensive coin,
reputable coin dealers sell them for at $1000 and sometimes much more.
Worn and corroded examples are cheaper.

There are many replicas for sale much cheaper, and I suspect that the coin
in the box is a replica, as who would want to subject a rare coin to damage
from items moving around in a box.

Nero is a much more well-known emperor than the other three,
and would appeal more to Indiana Jones, as well as the prop man.

I watched the episode "Attack of the Hawkmen" recently, Indy sets fire
to a German aircraft factory, Nero liked fires too.

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WilliamBoyd8

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Some more coins from a "Young Indiana Jones" episode

Some more coins from a "Young Indiana Jones" episode:

These are from the "Ireland, April 1916" episode:

The DVD is "Love's Sweet Song" and includes the
"Ireland, April 1916" and "London, May 1916" episodes.

These are two of my favorite episodes as:
1. I'm Irish.
2. Elizabeth Hurley looks nice (London episode)

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Indy and friend walking in Dublin.
Later they move into cheap lodgings and do not have much money.

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A group of British coins from the early 1900's.
The coins are bronze pennies and silver sixpences and shillings.
A shilling was worth about US 25 cents then.

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One penny has the head of King George V, these were made from 1911 to 1936.

The reverse design on the British penny, the seated warrior woman with the shield,
is the same design used on the Roman sestertius (above).

:)
 

Stoo

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WilliamBoyd8 said:
Some more coins from a "Young Indiana Jones" episode:
Good going, WilliamBoyd. Just when I thought the well was dry, you found more (and identified them, too)!:hat:

I'll have to fire up my scanner and continue with the ones from the "Greatest Adventures" book.
 

WilliamBoyd8

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Some people have Indiana Jones books, some have games, some have...

a Nero Sestertius

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Nero Sestertius, Roma type
(IMP NERO) CLAVD CAESAR AVG GERM PM TRP XIII PP
Roma seated left on armor holding long sceptre and resting left arm on shield
Struck: AD 67, Rome Mint

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Stoo

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WilliamBoyd, here's another Indy coin for you to identify (from the "Greatest Adventures" book):

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Looks like it's from Germany...
 

Archaeos

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Stoo said:
Looks like it's from Germany...

WilliamBoyd, if it's any help: the imprint reads 'Minister vom Stein Deutschlands Führer in schwerer Zeit 1757-1831' ("Minister vom Stein, Germany's leader during troubled times 1757-1831") and refers to Baron vom Stein, which I know about because my partner went to a school named after him - unfortunately a rather little-known person in Germany today.
 

Archaeos

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WilliamBoyd8 said:
It is a German Westphalen Notgeld coin from the early 1920's.
Notgeld are token-like coins struck during a period of extreme inflation.

Wow, William, amazing! (y) And what a turnover speed in getting this info out.

I understand the coin picture is from the "Indiana Jones - The Greatest Adventures of Indiana Jones" book (which I have just ordered for 1 penny from Amazon UK :D ). In what context is this coin depicted, if I might ask?

I am just curious on what occasion one would see Indy dealing with Westphalian emergency money in the early 1920s :confused: Maybe getting over Marion by drinking a few beer too many at the Pinkus Müller brewery in Münster? ;)
 

WilliamBoyd8

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I suspect that the coin's denomination would be involved, for example,
"How would you like to be a millionaire?".

The horse on the coin's reverse is pretty.

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Archaeos

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WilliamBoyd8 said:
The horse on the coin's reverse is pretty. :)

This is the 'Westfalenross' ("Westphalian steed") - also called 'Welfenross' (yeah, you guessed it: meaning "Welf steed") after the House of Welf - that is shown on Westphalia's coat of arms since 1815 (after Waterloo, Vienna and all that stuff). It is still on the coat of arms of the current German federal state of Rhineland-Westphalia.

It is similar/heraldically related to the Saxon Steed shown on the coat of arms of former Duchy of Saxony and now federal state of Lower-Saxony. Lots of mythical lore around it, namely it being a depiction of Odin's horse Sleipnir, or the Hengist/Horsa equine double act that lead the Saxons to England ('Hengst' meaning "horse/stallion" in German).

I admit with some embarrasment that I am not well versed with coins (still can't identify small euro cent coins properly when in a hurry :eek: ), but when I saw the aquiline nose on that coin's obverse, Freiherr vom Stein immediately came to my mind, hence why I was able to read the imprint. :eek:
 
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WilliamBoyd8

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I am also curious how the Westphalen coin figures into the story.

My understanding is that these particular coins were not actually issued for use
but were made as commemoratives.

That is why they are usually found in good shape.

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Stoo

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WilliamBoyd8 said:
It is a German Westphalen Notgeld coin from the early 1920's.
Notgeld are token-like coins struck during a period of extreme inflation.

Here is one for sale in Germany:
They are pretty common, this seller wants Euro 30 for his.
Note the denomination, 50 million marks!

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http://www.muenzauktion.com/kohlross/item.php5?id=1590
I knew you could identify it!(y) Looks like Indy has more than one of those because there is a 2nd Notgeld in the same photo spread. A measly, 10,000 marks.

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WilliamBoyd8 said:
My understanding is that these particular coins were not actually issued for use but were made as commemoratives.

That is why they are usually found in good shape.
William, do you mean the particular coins in the image you posted were commemoratives or do you mean Notgelds in general? Some quick research says that they were indeed issued for use but not by the bank, therefore, weren't considered legal tender. (You're the expert so I'm just aiming to clarify this.:))
Archaeos said:
I understand the coin picture is from the "Indiana Jones - The Greatest Adventures of Indiana Jones" book (which I have just ordered for 1 penny from Amazon UK :D ). In what context is this coin depicted, if I might ask?

I am just curious on what occasion one would see Indy dealing with Westphalian emergency money in the early 1920s :confused: Maybe getting over Marion by drinking a few beer too many at the Pinkus Müller brewery in Münster? ;)
Yes, it's from the "Greatest Adventure" book (as are some others I posted earlier in the thread). The coins in the book have no context other than to help illustrate that Indy is a globe-trotter. They are sprinkled randomly throughout the pages along with several banknotes from different countries and various other ephemera.

Quite the bargain to pay only $0.01 for the book!:eek: When you get your copy, be sure to post your thoughts here: The Greatest Adventures of Indiana Jones

As for how he obtained the Notgelds, your guess is as good as any! Maybe Indy acquired them at a curio shop while in Flensburg during WW2?:p

Thanks for all the wonderful information, Archaeos. You are quickly becoming a highly esteemed addition to The Raven!:hat:
 

WilliamBoyd8

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My comment about commemoratives applies to the Westphalen Notgeld coins only.

Most Notgeld coins were used extensively at the time and show signs of wear and circulation.

Most of the Notgeld coins that I have seen have pretty basic designs,
a small image, the name of the city or state, the denomination, and the date.

Also they were usually made of zinc or some other inexpensive metal.

Technically, Notgeld coins are actually tokens, as they were usually not legal coins.

Next Young Indiana Jones coin story:

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