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Old 06-01-2005, 02:24 PM   #1
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Shangri-La

Have you ever heard of this city? It is rumoured that somewhere in Tibet, there is a hidden city, with a perfect society, perfect people and fabulous landscapes and the cleanest sky you`ve ever seen. Nobody discovered anything too big, but it`s sayd that the Dallai Lama palace in Lhassa, Tibet, has a tunnel that leads to this mystic city. It sounds very interesting...
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Old 06-01-2005, 02:39 PM   #2
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See the thread on Atlantis....
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Old 06-01-2005, 04:24 PM   #3
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See the thread on Atlantis....

Heh,you beat me to it
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Old 06-01-2005, 04:43 PM   #4
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It's completely fictional. The invention of novelist James Hilton in his book, Lost Horizon.
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Old 06-02-2005, 06:11 AM   #5
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USS Shangri-la

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It's completely fictional. The invention of novelist James Hilton in his book, Lost Horizon.

No, it was an actual place.

When FDR was asked the origin of the aircraft used in the Doolittle Raid, he responded "a new secret based called Shangri-la."

http://www.thehistorynet.com/ah/blag...ds/index3.html

Not long afterward in 1943 the United States Navy announced the launching of the aircraft carrier "Shangri-la" to seal FDR's wit into perpetuity.

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionar...i-La%20(CVA-38)

USS Shangri-la is the only ship in the US Navy named after a location that may not exist, but USS Shangri-la itself did exist. I strode her decks many decades ago...

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Old 06-02-2005, 11:24 AM   #6
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"named after a location that may not exist"
Does not exist...
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Old 06-02-2005, 12:27 PM   #7
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When FDR was asked the origin of the aircraft used in the Doolittle Raid, he responded "a new secret based called Shangri-la."

http://www.thehistorynet.com/ah/blag...ds/index3.html

Not long afterward in 1943 the United States Navy announced the launching of the aircraft carrier "Shangri-la" to seal FDR's wit into perpetuity.

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionar...i-La%20(CVA-38)

USS Shangri-la is the only ship in the US Navy named after a location that may not exist, but USS Shangri-la itself did exist. I strode her decks many decades ago...

Very interesting info, particularly the information of the ship. Thanks for the links!
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Old 06-02-2005, 12:56 PM   #8
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Shangri-la

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"named after a location that may not exist"
Does not exist...

Do the letters OCD strike a familiar note?

You must learn to relax. Can you be absolutely sure of that? Dogmatism often backfires, you know. Taking a rigid position leaves you vulnerable to being blown over.

There is a Shangri-la. China announced it five years ago.

http://www.gluckman.com/Shangri-la.html

Omigosh, ClintonHammond III is lying on his back with his eyes glazed over.

We bet money on this. Didn't we?

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Old 06-02-2005, 01:08 PM   #9
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Do the letters OCD strike a familiar note?

We bet money on this. Didn't we?

LOL! I'd like to nominate these for "2005 Quote of the Year".
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Old 06-02-2005, 01:21 PM   #10
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*dismissive gestore towards Heliograph*

There is no such place as the mythical Shangri-la... your blaterhskite doesn't change that...
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Old 06-02-2005, 01:35 PM   #11
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I just finished reading the Chinese article Heliograph posted... anybody catch the reference to a real Raven bar?

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Down below, sits the town’s greatest gem, an old neighborhood of wooden houses and storefronts. This is old Zhongdian, and it appears untouched since horse caravans set out from Yunnan fields a century ago, carrying tea to Lhasa.

Recently, restoration has started on the district, with the Raven Pub being among the first establishments to open. Jason Lees and Amy Wright run the Raven and a trekking company, after relocating from Liang.
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Old 06-02-2005, 02:05 PM   #12
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"with the Raven Pub being among the first establishments to open"

See.. now THAT'S wicked!!!

LOL
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Old 06-02-2005, 09:11 PM   #13
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This man needs help.

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*dismissive gestore towards Heliograph*

There is no such place as the mythical Shangri-la... your blaterhskite doesn't change that...

Clearly a lack of imagination here. You must learn to take deep breaths and lighten up, otherwise you will be destroying our perceptions of Santa Clause and Tinkerbell and Elvis and everything.

By the way, there was no USS Blatherskite to my knowledge.
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Old 06-03-2005, 06:52 AM   #14
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How about an Indy movie with Shangri-La instead of the Ark or the Sankara Stones or the Grail?
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Old 06-03-2005, 07:52 AM   #15
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Trek to the Hindu Kush, then take a left and follow the music

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How about an Indy movie with Shangri-La instead of the Ark or the Sankara Stones or the Grail?

Oh-oh, could we do that? ClintonHammond III says Shangri-la doesn't exist so could Indy really go to a place more grounded in fiction than fact? Now H. Rider Haggard made a living of having his characters do just that, and we all know that Indiana Jones owes much to H. Rider Haggard.

Of course he can. Great idea. Now, where did I put my yeti fur vest?

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Of course he can. Great idea. Now, where did I put my yeti fur vest?

Aboard the USS Blatherskite?
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Old 06-03-2005, 08:23 AM   #17
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This thread has evolved into one of the funniest things I've read on any message board.
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Old 06-03-2005, 12:17 PM   #18
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"How about an Indy movie with Shangri-La"
They would probably be accused of ripping off Sky Captian... But The Grail is just as much fiction as Shangri-La, so why not... It might be neat to have Indy look for a place rather than a thing...

"a lack of imagination"
Imagination is all well and good, but not when it replaces reality... That's called mental illness...
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A nihilistic realist at Disneyland

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..."a lack of imagination"
Imagination is all well and good, but not when it replaces reality... That's called mental illness...

The entire basis for this messageboard is imagination. Imagination is not mental illness. Mental disfunction is mental illness. Imagination is an art and diversion pursued by most sane people (and perhaps the source of their sanity).

Indiana Jones at his very essence is a flight of fancy.

There are strawmen all over the place around here to knock down, if you are going to play the inflexible realist. You've taken on a great role, temperance fanatic in a bar.
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"You've taken on a great role"

So have you... Doesn't your village miss having their idiot?

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Heh

You gotta try to chill out, man...
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Old 06-06-2005, 09:45 AM   #21
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Shangri-La was based upon an area of western China that botanist Joseph Rock explored and wrote about. James Hilton enhanced the image of this area, turning it into a utopia. It makes for a good story, but there is no utopia on earth.
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Don't succomb to the dark side, Luke Skywalker

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James Hilton enhanced the image of this area, turning it into a utopia. It makes for a good story, but there is no utopia on earth.

I think it is a matter of attitude. Life...and locations...are what you make of them.

Human beings being what they are I agree it would be impossible to gather a group of people and have them all perceive the same existance as "utopia" for long.

Actually it is hard to grasp what heaven might be like. Most of us are at our happiest when we've overcome a great challenge or conflict. A totally harnonious locale, I think, would be without challenges.

Borrowing from Far Easter philosophy, without darkness we cannot perceive light.

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Very true...and Dr.Tyree's(?) philosophy class is right down the hall.

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Very true...and Dr.Tyree's(?) philosophy class is right down the hall.

I wouldn't trust that hall for a minute.

Unless I have sufficient counterweight when I put my book bag down, darts will come shooting out of the walls, the tiles will begin to sink, and giant bowling ball will come rolling down from the faculty lounge.
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It helps if you speak Hovitos...and oh yeah,don't trust your guides.
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