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Old 09-20-2012, 12:07 PM   #1
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Karen Allen quote and reactions...
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/58432

And your chance to pitch Indy 5 for a chance to win one of 5 blu-ray sets. Here's your chance to say something other than nay, naysayers. Deadline tonight!
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/58382
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What would be your MacGuffin of choice for INDY 5, and why would it work in the overall scope of films? I'll give you 250 words with which to operate in order to lay out your plan for the next chapter of Indiana Jones.
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Old 09-20-2012, 12:11 PM   #2
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Tree of Life...but I already have the blueray
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Old 09-20-2012, 12:51 PM   #3
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What would be your MacGuffin of choice for INDY 5, and why would it work in the overall scope of films? I'll give you 250 words with which to operate in order to lay out your plan for the next chapter of Indiana Jones.

I don't get the second question
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Old 09-20-2012, 01:01 PM   #4
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And your chance to pitch Indy 5 for a chance to win one of 5 blu-ray sets. Here's your chance to say something other than nay, naysayers. Deadline tonight!
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/58382

It’s time Indy dropped the validation of hokey, pop culture, revisionist histories regarding ancient aliens and got back to obtaining relics with some connection to the world’s major religions, (yes there are such things as sivalingas). What has implications to this day and still holds some allure or appreciable link to relics lost in the sands of time?

Indiana Jones and the Shards of the Black Stone

Indiana Jones, on a lecture tour of the Middle East, learns Junior has dropped out of school again, this time pursuing the temptation of Indy’s past: Fortune and Glory.

Sallah reluctantly introduces Indy to a sinister politician / underworld power player Abu Tahir, who resembles, (and might be) the devil himself.

Indy compromises his values, (aka: soul) dealing to save Mutt, and must smuggle Abu Tahir into the Dome of the Rock for the shards of The Black Stone, the Heaven sent pre-Islamic relic which reveals the location Adam and Eve built the first altar, and legend has it, in evil hands can trigger Armageddon.

A nice call back to Last Crusade might be the Templar’s Tunnel under the Temple Mount, where Mutt is found hiding in a tomb behind a skeleton which “comes to life” as Mutt uncovers himself once he realizes his old man is there to rescue him.

A nice opportunity to bring back Sallah as more than a comedic foil and differentiate Musilms from extremists...
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Old 09-20-2012, 02:36 PM   #5
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It’s time Indy dropped the validation of hokey, pop culture, revisionist histories regarding ancient aliens and got back to obtaining relics with some connection to the world’s major religions, (yes there are such things as sivalingas). What has implications to this day and still holds some allure or appreciable link to relics lost in the sands of time?

You can't get anything much more hokey than the world's major religions.
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Old 09-20-2012, 02:54 PM   #6
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So Lucas finally gave up on the search for a MacGuffin, and now is secretly asking for help to the fans....I see




Let's go for some Norse mythology this time.


INDIANA JONES and the QUEST for MJÖLLNIR


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mjollnir
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Old 09-20-2012, 03:14 PM   #7
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You can't get anything much more hokey than the world's major religions.
Just Aliens!

Well that would be insipid too...hmmm.
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Old 09-20-2012, 03:25 PM   #8
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I did this a couple days ago and I'm happy that some of us scum bags decided to crawl out of the local sewer and participate, hell since we're supposed to be the authorities on this subject there should be a more than likely chance that many of the top slots could be patrons of the Raven... right?

Anyway, I'll reveal my pitch after I win the Blu-rays, the hat and the whip.
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Old 09-20-2012, 03:35 PM   #9
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I can't participate because I live outside of the US, but you guys go ahead and use my idea of Mjöllnir.
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Old 09-20-2012, 03:50 PM   #10
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I don't get the second question
That's the real trick isn't it.

Some folks think you can just lump in whatever artifact plug it into to a pre existing script and call it a day. i've never been one of those people. And to me that's just not the case.

I've heard people complain, "well George just pick a damned object already", but I think it's actually one of the most important aspects of these films. The object is usually tied to whatever the film makers are trying to get across thematically in that particular story.

Sankara stones = fortune and glory (it demonstrates why Indiana Jones is not a selfish grave robber but a decent man)

Grail = rejuvenation (between a father and sons relationship)

Crystal Skull = reconnecting (the skull with the body -- Indy with his family)

(the ark more or less is a different story but I can get into that in another post)

The real trick is finding an object that presents a theme in the film you propose but can also create a cohesive whole with the other films. That's what he's asking for. It has to be in line with the others... (crystal skull makes this a little more difficult)

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Old 09-20-2012, 04:04 PM   #11
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I'll reveal my pitch after I win the Blu-rays
Same here.

They should hold this contest more often.
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Old 09-20-2012, 04:06 PM   #12
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Anyway, I'll reveal my pitch after I win the Blu-rays, the hat and the whip.

Can't wait...
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Old 09-20-2012, 04:51 PM   #13
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@ Henry Jones VII

Oh crap, same here

I know exactly in which direction I would take Indy V. In fact, I think I have a neat idea for the climax that would be very different from the previous climaxes. The theme would be "ultimately letting go".

Looking forward to the results though! Good luck, everybody
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Old 09-20-2012, 05:00 PM   #14
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Oh crap, same here

I know exactly in which direction I would take Indy V. In fact, I think I have a neat idea for the climax that would be very different from the previous climaxes. The theme would be "ultimately letting go".

Looking forward to the results though! Good luck, everybody

care to show us your idea, Olliana?
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Old 09-20-2012, 05:08 PM   #15
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INDIANA JONES and the QUEST for MJÖLLNIR
It's "Mjölnir", or if you have a keyboard that doesn't type umlauts by default, "Mjollnir".

Use that said form, two L's plus the O with umlauts, and it means... well, maybe I best leave it unsaid in this relatively family-friendly environment.


It would make an Indiana Jones adventure like one never seen, though.
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Old 09-20-2012, 05:18 PM   #16
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It's "Mjölnir", or if you have a keyboard that doesn't type umlauts by default, "Mjollnir".

Use that said form, two L's plus the O with umlauts, and it means... well, maybe I best leave it unsaid in this relatively family-friendly environment.


It would make an Indiana Jones adventure like one never seen, though.
yes, thank you
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Old 09-20-2012, 06:55 PM   #17
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Anyone else having problems opening the AICN artical?? I have tried on 3 different computers and each time it wont load and freezes the computer??
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Old 09-20-2012, 10:44 PM   #18
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Got it in under the wire! Whew!!!!
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Old 09-21-2012, 01:07 AM   #19
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care to show us your idea, Olliana?

Mabye when this whole AICN thing is over
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Old 09-21-2012, 01:31 AM   #20
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Mabye when this whole AICN thing is over

Well, the deadline has officially passed, so start posting everyone who entered!
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Old 09-21-2012, 02:34 AM   #21
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Indiana Jones and the Shards of the Black Stone...

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No. Just no. I could make a wonderful argument about the socio-political reasons for not doing it, but the reasoning is of a tertiary nature. The primary reason is quite simple: Indy's been to that part of the world. Twice. It's a wide, wide world out there; let's see a different part of it.

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Abu Tahir, who resembles...

That's a little on the nose, don't you think?

The South Pacific, Northeast Asia and Subsaharan Africa are the ideal locales Indy should be visiting on the silver screen. And, no, not in the same damn move.
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Old 09-21-2012, 04:09 AM   #22
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^You can only criticize if you offer your own idea up for discussion, as well.

Fair is fair.


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Old 09-21-2012, 05:33 AM   #23
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^You can only criticize if you offer your own idea up for discussion, as well.

Fair is fair.



I like everything about your story except for two things: The plot and the characters.

The idea itself is fine. The only real criticism, as mentioned, is geographic. To tread the same turf for a third time does the character and fans a disservice.

And as for ideas, I've offered up a fair amount in other threads.
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Old 09-21-2012, 07:21 AM   #24
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That's a little on the nose, don't you think?
No, we're not in production...yet. This is just your standard, run-of-the-mill "Ain't It Cool News Pitch"...

He did steal the relic once and suffered a very Indiana Jonesy, villains fate.

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The South Pacific, Northeast Asia and Subsaharan Africa are the ideal locales Indy should be visiting on the silver screen. And, no, not in the same damn move.
I hear ya, but what about my proposal makes any these locales off limits? There are prologues, sub-ventures, even epilogues..

Have they run out of Red pixels...?

I know I did treking across the Raven in search of: Indiana Jones and Le Saboteur's Revelation.
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Old 09-24-2012, 12:13 PM   #25
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When the hell are they gonna announce the winners?

It's not even in their contest section anymore... have we been duped?
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