Alison Doody's thoughts on Cate Blanchett
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ElsaFan said:
I skimmed through...here's what I've got.
http://raven.theraider.net/showthread.php?p=238564#post238564
http://raven.theraider.net/showthread.php?p=237839#post237839
http://raven.theraider.net/showthread.php?p=233031#post233031
http://raven.theraider.net/showthread.php?p=233025#post233025
http://raven.theraider.net/showthread.php?p=233022#post233022
ElsaFan
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Attila, I don't see how respecting women for not making abusive use of botox can be perceived by you as gratuitous meanness or talking in bad faith.
And saying that S. Somers is an old barbie doll with too much makeup, I think is stating a fact. The poor old lady doesn't know she's 60 and is making a fool of herself on the red carpet, while classy older women like Maggie Smith, Helen Mirren and Vanessa Redgrave hold up just fine and do not need to paint their faces like clowns to look good. Yes I said that Alison looked better than Suzanne Somers, but in fact every actress looks better, except perhaps Joan Rivers.
And yes, Kate Capshaw and Karen Allen on that ONE picture from the DVD press junket look stoned, but that was a JOKE. Or you might not know what a joke is. I never said K. Capshaw and K. Allen were ugly and talentless old hags. In fact, I sincerely think that both of them are better actresses than Alison Doody. If you're unable to take my comments in the humorous light they were meant to be taken, then I can't do anything. I don't understand why you are constantly offended by me saying that Alison Doody is a beautiful woman. But I never ever said she was the only one. It's just easier for me to say she is.
And saying that S. Somers is an old barbie doll with too much makeup, I think is stating a fact. The poor old lady doesn't know she's 60 and is making a fool of herself on the red carpet, while classy older women like Maggie Smith, Helen Mirren and Vanessa Redgrave hold up just fine and do not need to paint their faces like clowns to look good. Yes I said that Alison looked better than Suzanne Somers, but in fact every actress looks better, except perhaps Joan Rivers.
And yes, Kate Capshaw and Karen Allen on that ONE picture from the DVD press junket look stoned, but that was a JOKE. Or you might not know what a joke is. I never said K. Capshaw and K. Allen were ugly and talentless old hags. In fact, I sincerely think that both of them are better actresses than Alison Doody. If you're unable to take my comments in the humorous light they were meant to be taken, then I can't do anything. I don't understand why you are constantly offended by me saying that Alison Doody is a beautiful woman. But I never ever said she was the only one. It's just easier for me to say she is.
chapter11
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ElsaFan said:
Perhaps it's the fact that you're constantly harping on the same thing that set Attilla off? also, isn't it a bit insulting (and presumptive) to say that the only women getting parts in Hollywood these days are giving sexual favors to the producers??
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ElsaFan
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I said that tongue in cheek. That's hearsay. I know nothing about the movie business, the audition process or how favors can help you. I wasn't accusing anyone or pinpointing someone in particular. Just stating what everybody thinks nowadays. It's been denounced by many influential actors and actresses, by the way.
commontone
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indyfan85 said:Mark Hamill still went on to do cool things like Wing Commander. Shia will probably just fall out of existence, River Phoenix anybody?
Are you aware River Phoenix died of a drug overdose in 1993? I'm not sure what you're joking about.
sunshinestate1992
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No shia wont dieindyfan85 said:Mark Hamill still went on to do cool things like Wing Commander. Shia will probably just fall out of existence, River Phoenix anybody?
out
im not a die hard fan
but hes a good actor that will not fall out of existence .
most people say that becuase he got a big break
Vendetta08
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No Ticket said:
Shia has been in several successful movies, his career is still just beginning. Hamill was a one hit wonder. He's now in a cardboard box living outside of Warner Brothers studios auditioning for voice overs.
ElsaFan said:
Okay, let me spell it out clearly for you then. I object to you defending Alison Doody on the grounds that she is classy when you aren't so in the least.
ElsaFan
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What's up with the personal attacks? Are you in any way related to Suzanne Somers? If so, I sincerely apologize. Otherwise, your insults are uncalled for, which makes you even less classy than you think I am.
I might not be respected as much as you are on these boards, but that doesn't give you the right to be so condescending or patronizing towards others.
If my modest contribution to these boards isn't well regarded or is altogether not appreciated, then let others say it while the door is opened. I will leave these boards if that is the way everybody feels.
I might not be respected as much as you are on these boards, but that doesn't give you the right to be so condescending or patronizing towards others.
If my modest contribution to these boards isn't well regarded or is altogether not appreciated, then let others say it while the door is opened. I will leave these boards if that is the way everybody feels.
herr gruber
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There is no need for 'Assaulting' Elsafan. He likes Doody. So what? Persistent posting about one person is fine. We all persistently post about Indy. What's the diff?
There is no need for 'Assaulting' Elsafan. He likes Doody. So what? Persistent posting about one person is fine. We all persistently post about Indy. What's the diff?
ElsaFan said:
Please, let's not do the persecuted bit? All I'm saying is that the argument you make for Alison Doody doesn't jibe with your use of frankly below-the-belt attacks on other actresses as a means to make that point. I have no problem with you apart from that; I'm not objecting to you as a human being or even as a member of the Raven but merely to this facet of what you're posting. There's a difference.
ElsaFan
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"Frankly below-the-belt attacks on other actresses"
Two *jokes* which you did not digest for some reason... Suzanne Somers looking like a barbie doll, and Karen Allen and Kate Capshaw looking stoned on a single picture. Big deal. It's not like I have a long history of bashing women.
Don't be such a vierge offensée.
Two *jokes* which you did not digest for some reason... Suzanne Somers looking like a barbie doll, and Karen Allen and Kate Capshaw looking stoned on a single picture. Big deal. It's not like I have a long history of bashing women.
Don't be such a vierge offensée.
I'd be fine with taking your jokes as jokes; it's the incongruity that I find notable, and I think you know that.
It's fine...I think hypocrisy is among the sillier charges that people make anyhow, especially since it's so often just the failure or unwillingness to recognize that people are inconsistent by nature.
I shouldn't have made such a big thing of this. Let's get on with it, then.
It's fine...I think hypocrisy is among the sillier charges that people make anyhow, especially since it's so often just the failure or unwillingness to recognize that people are inconsistent by nature.
I shouldn't have made such a big thing of this. Let's get on with it, then.