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Old 10-09-2010, 04:17 AM   #151
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How do I put this as not to offend... Bull**** Mr LaBeouf. Bull-****! This is a little marketing technique you must have picked up while studying for your Series 7 bar exam for traders.

I don't believe it is sincere for one second for two reasons. Why only now? And, who in their right mind would say something that could strain a relationship with Steven Spielberg, the most powerful man in Hollywood? Heís extremely lucky to have that. Donít get me wrong I donít hat Shia I just think this his him showing the ugly nature of marketing a film. And whatís even more concerning is that he dragged Harrison into it. If Harrison had said something and wanted people to hear it he would have said it himself. Iím sorry but heís bordering on career and integrity suicide!
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Old 10-09-2010, 12:34 PM   #152
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I smell a demotion for little Shia. Is there a Holes 2 in his future?
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Old 10-09-2010, 12:43 PM   #153
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I smell a demotion for little Shia. Is there a Holes 2 in his future?

Hey look:



A falling star!
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Old 10-11-2010, 09:24 AM   #154
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I think that, by comparison, if Wall Street 2 had been brilliant and if Shia's performance had been brilliant... then yes, reflect on what he could have done differently on KOTCS. However, after viewing the new movie my opinion is that Wall Street 2 is a very average sequel to a movie I didn't particularly find great first time around. Also, Shia's performance is a very generic by numbers piece. What had the potential to be Wall Street's equivalent of 'The Color of Money', ends up being a forgettable addendum (IMHO), which makes Shia's comments (if meant seriously) a little hollow.
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Old 10-11-2010, 04:07 PM   #155
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What had the potential to be Wall Street's equivalent of 'The Color of Money', ends up being a forgettable addendum (IMHO)..

Probably all the more why he did it.

"If you didn't like Indy 4, screw that flick, my next sequel to an 80's film is going to be better."

What he truly feels is probably the opposite, but saying that would probably be inappropriate from a marketing view-point.
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Old 10-17-2010, 12:34 AM   #156
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I was watching my KotCS extras and came across a line from Shia in the Production Diary where he says:

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"There's a lot of freedom, involved in this. Way more than I ever expected which is scary to me. You find out that your there for input also. To have freedom in something thatís this massive is not-err... err like-err a reassuring thing! It scares you! This whole process is the most terrifying and electrifying experience in my life."

But I thought you where pigeonholed, Shia? To be honest I like Positive Shia better!
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Old 11-12-2010, 06:55 PM   #157
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I'd actually welcome Indy's son being recast with a better actor for the next film. That's what they should do. And that's what Shia Le Turd deserves.

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Old 10-27-2011, 09:46 AM   #158
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In light of Spielberg's most recent confession, three cheers for Shia.

He was right, they DID botch it!

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Hey look:



A falling star!

A little science, the tail of that meteor is comprised of rare $1000 bills coming out of his wazoo being consumed by the friction with other atmospheric particles.

But don't worry he's MADE of money...more than any of us will ever see.

Maybe not me
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Old 11-29-2011, 07:17 AM   #159
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I'd actually welcome Indy's son being recast with a better actor for the next film. That's what they should do. And that's what Shia Le Turd deserves.
I hope not, its one of my pet hates when they change the actor playing a character. I'd rather that Indys son wasnt in the movie rather than recast. And if it is that he is in the script then they should use the same actor, despite what he may have said about KOTCS.

But I think Indy 5 can go a different way without bringing along his son. They havent necesarily painted themselves into a corner with the fact he now has a son.
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Old 11-29-2011, 10:10 AM   #160
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I hope not, its one of my pet hates when they change the actor playing a character. I'd rather that Indys son wasnt in the movie rather than recast. And if it is that he is in the script then they should use the same actor, despite what he may have said about KOTCS.

But I think Indy 5 can go a different way without bringing along his son. They havent necesarily painted themselves into a corner with the fact he now has a son.

Totally agree. If they were to have a killer script for Indy V involving Mutt in a pivotal role, then bring Shia back... but don't squeeze the character into a script just for the sake of it. Bring in new characters.
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Old 11-29-2011, 10:25 AM   #161
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I hope not, its one of my pet hates when they change the actor playing a character. I'd rather that Indys son wasnt in the movie rather than recast. And if it is that he is in the script then they should use the same actor, despite what he may have said about KOTCS.

But I think Indy 5 can go a different way without bringing along his son. They havent necesarily painted themselves into a corner with the fact he now has a son.

Mutt should not be in Indy 5. If he is it should be a mention of the character or a quick cameo at the beginning or at the very end when Indy get home from his adventure. But definitely do not change actors. I hate that as well. The only time I find if acceptable is when you are in the middle of the story and one of your actors dies before the series is complete.
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Old 08-25-2012, 03:38 PM   #162
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I think claims of Shia / Spielberg drama have been wildly overstated...
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The actor "deeply regrets" his negative comments about Indiana Jones, revealing they ruptured his relationship with Steven Spielberg. "He told me there's a time to be a human being and have an opinion, and there's a time to sell cars," he recalls. "It brought me freedom, but it also killed my spirits because this was a dude I looked up to like a sensei."
Bottom-feeder "news" sites take a paraphrase like "ruptured his relationship" and extrapolate further. Not much to see here when you play the original quotes back to back.
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Old 09-30-2014, 10:51 PM   #163
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Well...was re-watching select moments from KOTCS again. And really...it is a massive, angering shame that Shia LaBeouf is not given more credit for Mutt Williams.

Let's think about this people. Of all the original characters in the movie, Mutt is the most well-characterized and developed. He has personality, he has a great dynamic with Dr. Jones. He gets his own little 'grow up and get used to the craziness, kid' arc of sorts. He is skilled, intelligent, endearingly hot-headed but not a useless moron. He gets some funny lines and his banter with other characters is generally well-done. And Shia plays him as this wannabe cool kid who's never really properly gotten into a mess like his pops, and when he has to rise to the occasion, he impresses quite a lot.

This is a really enjoyable, interesting character who adds so much to the film. And deserves more acknowledgement of it, regardless of your opinion about LaBeouf's acting. The character as written is solid and fun, regardless.
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Old 10-06-2014, 11:19 AM   #164
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Shia's performance is fine. His character's issues are at the script level, just like everybody else's. I still disagree with the need to give Indy a son at all, but if you must include him he would have played much better without the supporting character overload.

I wouldn't have minded if the character had just remained some greaser kid. The dynamic between Indy and Mutt up to that point was fairly decent. Once they did the reveal, the character became luggage, just like Marion.
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Old 10-06-2014, 12:54 PM   #165
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Shia's performance is fine. His character's issues are at the script level, just like everybody else's. I still disagree with the need to give Indy a son at all, but if you must include him he would have played much better without the supporting character overload.

I wouldn't have minded if the character had just remained some greaser kid. The dynamic between Indy and Mutt up to that point was fairly decent. Once they did the reveal, the character became luggage, just like Marion.

I personally thought the revelation added an entire new level of hilarity to their chemistry that worked like gangbusters for me, but to each his own. Maybe I just love the argument in the back of the truck too much (still can't wrap my head around that knife gag though...)
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