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Old 09-24-2017, 04:49 PM   #276
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Oh, quit riling the plebes, Lord Pale.
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Old 09-25-2017, 02:13 PM   #277
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Ford has always been sarcastic and snarky in interviews. He's one of the few actors I actually enjoy watching in those situations because of it.
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Old 09-26-2017, 12:33 PM   #278
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Why, they think they can rile me, LOL.
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Old 09-26-2017, 12:45 PM   #279
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Why, they think they can rile me, LOL.
Some plebes actually agree with you, Horsie.
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Old 09-26-2017, 01:04 PM   #280
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Some plebes actually agree with you, Horsie.

It's not ageism, or even ford hating. It's recognizing that action and age are not good bedfellows.

There is a season for everything. Most of the greats that are Ford's generation have long since put films behind them, much less action ones.

The only way I see this working at this point, is having an academic Jones, heading a conference in real-time and he is taking questions from the audience about his storied career. As a senior, he expounds his wisdom and regalia to the very attentive audience, and you slowly fade from that scene, to a flashback adventure of yester-year. He bookends the true (reboot adventure cliffhanger) film.

Hell, leave the story he's telling as a true cliffhanger akin to the films this series set to honor. Ford can exit this with Dignity, all people alike get satisfied, Corporate Mouse has a new face to proceed, if they want to.
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Old 09-26-2017, 01:25 PM   #281
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It's not ageism, or even ford hating. It's recognizing that action and age are not good bedfellows.
Completely agree*. Some people here clearly care more about the actor than the character.


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The only way I see this working at this point, is having an academic Jones, heading a conference in real-time and he is taking questions from the audience about his storied career. As a senior, he expounds his wisdom and regalia to the very attentive audience, and you slowly fade from that scene, to a flashback adventure of yester-year. He bookends the true (reboot adventure cliffhanger) film.
Yes, any bookend-like scenario would work for me.
Sadly, I suspect it ain't gonna happen.




*BTW, I'm no spring chicken myself.
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Old 09-26-2017, 01:56 PM   #282
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Completely agree*. Some people here clearly care more about the actor than the character.



Actually we care about the character. If you know anything about Indiana Jones you know that he wouldnít be sitting on his ass in his 70ís. He would be out in the field.
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Old 09-26-2017, 02:47 PM   #283
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The thing is, it seems people look at Indy in different ways.
Some seem to want him frozen as he first appeared in Raiders, as the young stern badass adventurer doing all kinds of stunts, more like a icon than a real character.
While some see him in a more realistic light character wise and welcome how he's changed over the years and want to see where he's at in his life in his old age.

It's like Raiders made such a huge impression on some fans that that is how Indy now must be for all eternity.
I think they greatly expanded the character in the sequels when they gave him a lighter side and explored his backstory and relationship with his father.
Letting him age makes him more real because we all age.

Would people really rather they recast Luke, Leia and Han in the new Star Wars?
Isn't part of the fun to see how the universe has progressed and where all our favorite characters are in their lives now after so much time has passed?
Ten more movies of young Luke battling the Empire with his lightsaber would just be boring. At least I think so.

We'll just have to accept that we want different things out of Indy 5, there's no point in all this bickering.
We need not look down on the other side just because we disagree.
We're all Indy fans are we not?

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Old 09-26-2017, 02:52 PM   #284
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Actually we care about the character. If you know anything about Indiana Jones you know that he wouldn’t be sitting on his ass in his 70’s. He would be out in the field.

A genuine question, how do we "know" this? If we consider YIJC, all his Oldness does is simple chores, and tells stories. (though he does slide a banister in Curse of the Jackal)
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Old 09-26-2017, 11:12 PM   #285
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Harrison is so old, he doesn't even get how knock knock jokes work.


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Old 09-27-2017, 08:07 AM   #286
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A genuine question, how do we "know" this? If we consider YIJC, all his Oldness does is simple chores, and tells stories. (though he does slide a banister in Curse of the Jackal)


Right, but that was a 93 year old Indy.
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Old 09-27-2017, 09:04 PM   #287
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Harrison is so old, he doesn't even get how knock knock jokes work.



Ageism is very cruel.

"Man, I love those Indy films, but f-ck, I wish that Harrison Ford guy wasn't involved. I mean, I love them in spite of him, you know? Like, Tom Selleck or even Richard Dreyfuss would've been so much better man. We need someone like Ben Affleck or Chris Pratt."
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Old 09-28-2017, 12:46 PM   #288
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Ageism is very cruel.

"Man, I love those Indy films, but f-ck, I wish that Harrison Ford guy wasn't involved. I mean, I love them in spite of him, you know? Like, Tom Selleck or even Richard Dreyfuss would've been so much better man. We need someone like Ben Affleck or Chris Pratt."
Actually, both Affleck and Pratt are way too old to play young Indy in the prequels which Disney will undoubtedly make, at some point in the future.

And your accusations of ageism are frankly laughable, just like your constant flip-flopping on loving/hating KOTCS.

I for one am really looking forward to watching Harry in Blade Runner 2049, have no qualms whatsoever with him playing an older Deckard, and enjoyed watching him in SW VII.

But those are movies with a multitude of characters, in other words both Deckard and Han Solo are just facets of a broader universe, with a lot more possibilities in terms of story development.

You are happy to watch Indy age with Ford - we get it. But a lot of people don't, and it's nothing to do with ageism.

This has been pointed out to you time and time again by a number of posters, and I don't understand why you insist with your hollow attempt at virtue signaling on these boards. Let it go.
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Old 09-28-2017, 02:12 PM   #289
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Actually, both Affleck and Pratt are way too old to play young Indy in the prequels which Disney will undoubtedly make, at some point in the future.

And your accusations of ageism are frankly laughable, just like your constant flip-flopping on loving/hating KOTCS.

I for one am really looking forward to watching Harry in Blade Runner 2049, have no qualms whatsoever with him playing an older Deckard, and enjoyed watching him in SW VII.

But those are movies with a multitude of characters, in other words both Deckard and Han Solo are just facets of a broader universe, with a lot more possibilities in terms of story development.

You are happy to watch Indy age with Ford - we get it. But a lot of people don't, and it's nothing to do with ageism.

This has been pointed out to you time and time again by a number of posters, and I don't understand why you insist with your hollow attempt at virtue signaling on these boards. Let it go.

It has everything to do with ageism. And no, I won't "let it go" just because you tell me to. I get that Ford haters just want to silence all opposing opinions, but that's not gonna happen. Sorry.
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Old 09-28-2017, 02:14 PM   #290
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Things would be so much easier for the Ford haters if Harrison would just croak already, amirite? Go to bed and don't wake up Grandpa Ford.
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Old 09-28-2017, 03:53 PM   #291
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It has everything to do with ageism. And no, I won't "let it go" just because you tell me to. I get that Ford haters just want to silence all opposing opinions, but that's not gonna happen. Sorry.
Whatever, suit yourself.

Who cares.
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Old 09-28-2017, 03:54 PM   #292
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I think a lot of it stems from how you view Indy. I know many fans who see him as an avatar that they can project themselves onto. They see him as less of a character and more of a vehicle that takes them through an adventure, while others see him as a fully formed character who grows and changes with each film (I believe there's truth in both). Those having a problem with Ford aging aren't wrong (no one wants to be old and no one wants to watch their heroes grow old either) and I certainly have my concerns about whether or not he can still pull it off. He did a great job in KOTCS but there's still a big difference between 65 and 75.

However, I'm more of the view that Indy is a character and doesn't remain in some immortal time capsule the way the older James Bond films handled Bond. He's meant to change and adapt and I'm fine with that, so long as it's done gracefully. Indy's meant to be in on the action and it's not wrong to wonder how someone his age could swing and jump around the way these films demand.

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Old 09-28-2017, 05:46 PM   #293
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Speaking of an older Indy... new Ford comments, which will air on the Graham Norton Show.

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'We have a release date and we are working on a script. It will be great. Iím looking forward to working with Steven (Spielberg) again and to revisiting the character later in life,'

'Itís interesting to see it in a different light. It will be fun and a good thing to do.'

I've seen a few outlets pick this up, but I pulled the quote from DailyMail.
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Old 09-28-2017, 07:47 PM   #294
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If a 75-year-old woman makes you a proposal of the carnal kind, and you politely refuse... is that ageism?
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If a 75-year-old woman makes you a proposal of the carnal kind, and you politely refuse... is that ageism?
Not if your name is Harrison Ford...

By the way, paging the legions of U.S. based Ford f̶e̶t̶i̶s̶h̶i̶s̶t̶s̶ admirers on here: make sure you don't miss our ageless hero on Jimmy Fallon tonight at 11:35 Eastern/10:35 Central.

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If a 75-year-old woman makes you a proposal of the carnal kind, and you politely refuse... is that ageism?

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Old 09-29-2017, 09:19 AM   #297
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If a 75-year-old woman makes you a proposal of the carnal kind, and you politely refuse... is that ageism?

In this age of political correctness it would be impolite to refuse.
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Old 09-29-2017, 09:33 AM   #298
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Looks like Harrison has an amazing performance in Blade Runner 2049:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/0/b...tive-profound/

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Harrison Ford’s recent Star Wars homecoming was pure and glorious fan-service, but this is something very different, and unexpectedly unsettling, musing on matters of ageing, legacy and death. It’s an extraordinary part, extraordinarily played, and reminds you just how much more Ford can do than dog-eared charisma.
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Looks like Harrison has an amazing performance in Blade Runner 2049:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/0/b...tive-profound/
Sounds great!
Hopefully they do an equally great job with Indy in IJ 5
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