Things the Paramount logo could fade into

Le Saboteur

Active member
I don't go in for nostalgia and rarely novelty (even if Pale Horse's take is hilarious). For me, I would like The Beards & Ford to get back to treating the character of Indiana Jones seriously.

Towards that end, Indy has reached a point where life starts taking things away. His father, Marcus, etc. But while lecturing at Marshall College, he receives a letter from a long lost friend from his youth -- Remy Baudoin. Remy has after all these years has -- finally! -- found the Peacock's Eye, and he's included photographic evidence to persuade his skeptical friend.

The devil take your retcon, George.

Intrigued, Indy sets off to, say, Shanghai to meet his old friend. And to finally lay his eyes on this fabled treasure. Before they can meet, however, Remy is a.) gunned down in an alley; b.) poisoned publicly; c.) run off the road into the East China Sea. Lao Che has a long memory.

Paramount logo then eventually fades into

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Yes, opium. Except it'll be the familiar black tar-like balls/bricks, rather than the seeds, conveniently arranged to resemble a mountain. Indy has cashed in his chips, taken a sabbatical from teaching and has been chasing the dragon ever since. A coolie finishes preparing the pipe, and passes it to a very haggard looking Indiana Jones.

I initially thought it would take an older Short Round, now an undercover CIA agent in Communist China, to break him out of that funk. But it seems too nostalgic for my tastes. There are other ways to do this though.

The one thing I did like from this idea was Marion coming to look for him, but always being two steps behind. She'd eventually fade out of the picture as the main story got rolling.
 

Mickiana

Well-known member
A willing drug-using Indy? Daring, but hardly acceptable by the moralising public. And stoking up the ol' opium peace pipe will not be a very action-fired scene I imagine.
 

Pale Horse

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Staff member
Mickiana said:
And stoking up the ol' opium peace pipe will not be a very action-fired scene I imagine.

Tell that to Cosmatos, and his scene with Curley Bill and Fred White...(n)
 
Mickiana said:
A willing drug-using Indy? Daring, but hardly acceptable by the moralising public. And stoking up the ol' opium peace pipe will not be a very action-fired scene I imagine.

Unless it blew up in his face and segued into a charred-face Indy reenacting a Benny Hill scene.
 

Le Saboteur

Active member
Mickiana said:
A willing drug-using Indy? Daring, but hardly acceptable by the moralising public. And stoking up the ol' opium peace pipe will not be a very action-fired scene I imagine.

That same moralizing public are the same fans who have condemned Indy to being a live-action cartoon. If those are the fans who are going to continue to be catered to, a hypothetical fifth film is going to be a mighty flame out.

Let's not forget that the Indiana Jones of Raiders of the Lost Ark had no trouble hitting the bottle rather hard after Marion's "death." I don't see it as that much of a stretch for a despondent Indy to turn to narcotics.

Well.

The really daring bit in this whole idea is Indy would spend a significant amount of time off screen during the opening action scene. It would focus on Remy's final few minutes of life allowing Indy to show up in just enough time to see him meet his demise.

I never worked out the logistics of the opium den scene, but for argument's sake, an intoxicated Indy getting into a brawl with, say, Lao Che's thugs who've come to finish the job could be quite action oriented. In the end though, it's all about breaking with convention.
 

Mickiana

Well-known member
Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see Indy partaking of the peace pipe. I don't know how it could be shown seriously. Still, it would be hard for the general public to accept.
 

Dr. Gonzo

New member
Montana Smith said:
After KOTCS I'd be surprised if Indy wasn't an opium addict.
Either that or they should go with the alcoholic angle that was originally intended for Indy back during Raiders' inception.

I know this is gonna get some flak from the board but if there was another movie, I'd love to see Indy, a married man and now struggling alcoholic, try and sober up before one last adventure. Hmmm kinda like that Darabont script...(the alcohol part) maybe he was onto something.
 
Dr. Gonzo said:
Either that or they should go with the alcoholic angle that was originally intended for Indy back during Raiders' inception.

I know this is gonna get some flak from the board but if there was another movie, I'd love to see Indy, a married man and now struggling alcoholic, try and sober up before one last adventure. Hmmm kinda like that Darabont script...(the alcohol part) maybe he was onto something.

Worked for Iron Man.
 

Montana Smith

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Dr. Gonzo said:
Either that or they should go with the alcoholic angle that was originally intended for Indy back during Raiders' inception.

I know this is gonna get some flak from the board but if there was another movie, I'd love to see Indy, a married man and now struggling alcoholic, try and sober up before one last adventure. Hmmm kinda like that Darabont script...(the alcohol part) maybe he was onto something.

Indy and Marion as a pair of alcoholics.
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Mutt, the one-time wannabe rebel, is now the only one who knows what day it is.
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A convenient ploy for Lucas to leave Indy at home and pursue the Adventures of Mutt Jones. :eek: :sick:
 

Dr. Gonzo

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Montana Smith said:
Indy and Marion as a pair of alcoholics.

A convenient ploy for Lucas to leave Indy at home and pursue the Adventures of Mutt Jones. :eek: :sick:

Oh Jesus, what have I done... but I'm not worried. Lucas never looks at what us fans say. The beard wants what the beard wants.
 

Attila the Professor

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Staff member
I believe I've posted this image or one like it before, but...

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And, of course, if they really turn Indy and Marion (back) into a couple of university town drunks, maybe the revelation will be that Mutt never existed at all.

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Lao_Che

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Indy's brother said:
An erupting volcano, the silhouette of a boat, Indy's fedora (crumpled on the ground while Indy is giving someone the pasting of a lifetime), a mountain of books that Dr. Jones is studying behind, the actual paramount logo on a movie screen at a drive-in theater, a bikini-clad girl's knees as she suns herself--reclined on a beach in Bermuda......

The Paramount on Paramount logo would be great to see.

Could be neat if the movie opens on an A-grade on some paper. Camera pulls out further to show it flapping gently in the wind, caught on a cliff ledge cause Indy's trying to juggle his workload with the part of the job he actually enjoys.
 
Lao_Che said:
The Paramount on Paramount logo would be great to see.

Could be neat if the movie opens on an A-grade on some paper. Camera pulls out further to show it flapping gently in the wind, caught on a cliff ledge cause Indy's trying to juggle his workload with the part of the job he actually enjoys.

That...that is excellent. (y)

Maybe just a crumpled, ripped corner of the page is the mountain.
 
How about a pile of poker chips?

The movie might start with a poker game (or some other game) in a casino, with an action-opener along the lines of Club Obi-Wan.
 
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