For Finn and Montana: Well, I don't mean to be confrontational, and I hope the post isn't taken that way, but there doesn't seem to be a way to address your questions without risking it. Bear with me;
I did begin this thread with the intention of discussing only possibilities. Many posters quickly twisted that around. For example, when I said "facts" in the initial post, I said "things others can investigate for themselves". That didn't mean necessarily alien relics. It meant ALL facts, like the alignment of ancient monuments, their erosion, the mainstream evidence (or lack thereof). I mean, many who simply look at the traditional evidence alone, such as the pyramids' alignment to Orion, come to ponder the alien-link based on that alone. I'm not sayin' their right, but they didn't need to look at an alien craft to get there. I.E. my use of the word "facts" referred to many, many things. Not necessarily aliens themselves.
As for my personal experiences, I do indeed have more to offer. I stopped that story because many unreasonable posters were turning it into a circus. It was difficult enough to talk so openly about such personal things, without the flaming. If maturity and respect resumes and remains, I'd certainly be willing to discuss them further. However, I cannot say that my personal experiences can "prove" anything, since the experience itself cannot be proven. Unfortunately. It is, like so many human endeavors, evidence only in testimony. The greater benefits of it are being able to see things from a perspective others do not, to offer new looks at old evidence, or offer new places to look for evidence. It is incumbent on science, researchers, etc. to consider new perspectives (mine or others'), however, since they are the ones who will "verify" it. After all, given the behavior of some posters here, if I personally had possession of a cosmic tablet that backed the AA-hypothesis 100%, I'd be told I'm not a scientist so somehow the evidence is invalid. So, I offer the theories, the possibilities, and then let the diggers do the digging.
Altogether though, I am here to discuss possibilities only. That's all I ever wanted. My initial post says that. In fact, it also says aliens *may* be responsible for some ancient works, and that I believe they are, but I do not outright say they are without a doubt. "It leaves the door open", I said. I also suggested, as equally probable, a more ancient but vanished civilization of humankind being responsible for some ancient works.
Again, I am sorry if that sounded confrontational. There's just been so much deliberate attempt by others to derail the thread because they don't happen to like me personally or the AA-hypothesis that many a reasonable argument for it has been mired and lost in flaming. I hope this can get things back on track.
Bottom line: I say ancient aliens is a theory. I believe it, yes. I ask people to consider the possibilities and what evidence points in that direction. And, should science have to bend over backwards to make a current theory work (such as Giza, with the copper fit doors no records speak of, with the erosion redating the monuments, etc.), one must ask themself, at what point does forcing all these unaccounted-for factors to fit current theory become less probable than someone/something else had a hand in it?
Whew! Such a lot to say. I do want to point out, though, that I welcome both your posts (Finn and Montana). Being the opponent I am of religion, I can easily see myself from the perspective of others. It's good to have beliefs challenged. It prevents them from becoming just wishful-thinking. I would certainly hate to see ufology become just another religion (although, to millions, it already has, and that is indeed sad). I'm sure I look like a kook to many, and that's a cross I'm prepared to bear. I just want to throw out there food for thought, and what evidence spices it up. Solid, good questions are welcomed. And, as I've said many times before, believe me, I do NOT like the idea of alien intervention, in ancient times or present. It's a very uncomfortable thing to think about. I'd rather have it dismissed, but, in order to dispel what I've seen, it would take some mondo good arguments. So please, bring 'em on!
