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Old 03-04-2011, 02:37 PM   #326
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Wow, amazing work! Truly epic, well edited, hilarious and a loving tribute to the series. Well done!

Indeed. Wonderful to see one of these sorts of things that isn't fawning, but is willing to kid the subject a little bit. I knew there'd be a laugh coming whenever it got around to the sax section.
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Old 03-04-2011, 03:27 PM   #327
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Well you knew it was just a matter of time until somebody put it together (Jeremiah even mentioned the idea earlier in this thread), so I thought I might as well be the first to tackle it. Ladies & gentlemen, I present...The Young Indy Music Video!
Myself, as well. I've been wanting to make a Young Indy Rap video for a long time but you beat me to it!

EXCELLENT JOB, Dr. Mountain Dew! As Tash and Attila have already said, fantastic editing, loving tribute and the sax parts are perfect! You did a great job of showing clips which correspond to the lyrics. Too many to mention right now but the best ones are the "slammin'" clips. Using the flame-thrower close-up for the last shot of the rap was a nice choice. Very well done!

A stupendous product, my friend. Instant CLASSIC!
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Old 03-05-2011, 01:53 PM   #328
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Thanks for the comments, guys. Hopefully it will become an internet phenomenon...or at least spark some more interest in the show!
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Old 03-06-2011, 11:39 PM   #329
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Two tiny tidbits:
  • A post over at Film Score Monthly sheds light on why the score to Curse of the Jackal was never (and may never) be released - apparently it was recorded with a union orchestra. I can't find the original thread, only this reference to it. Can anyone do better?
  • Laurence Rosenthal's official page is updated since I last checked, and now includes several sample clips, including many full tracks from Young Indiana Jones. Nothing that wasn't already released on the 4 OSTs, though:

Main Title (2:08 - full track)
Vienna 1908: Sophie’s Chamber (2:13)
British East Africa 1909: The Masai Elders (1:48 - full track)
Barcelona 1917: Boulevards of Barcelona (0:39)
Princeton 1916: Princeton Days (1:10)
Northern Italy 1918: The Wedding Dress (1:49 - full track; titled "The Bridal Gown" on the CD)
Ireland 1916: The Fight in the Bakery (1:53 - full track)
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Old 03-10-2011, 09:06 AM   #330
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Two tiny tidbits:
[list][*] A post over at Film Score Monthly sheds light on why the score to Curse of the Jackal was never (and may never) be released - apparently it was recorded with a union orchestra. I can't find the original thread, only this reference to it. Can anyone do better?

Thank you so much for a Film Score Monthly link. I read it with the blink of an eye. I also found those threads:

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/boar...ID=1&archive=1
http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/boar...ID=1&archive=1
http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/boar...ID=1&archive=0
http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/boar...ID=2&archive=0
http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/boar...ID=1&archive=0
http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/boar...ID=7&archive=1

Also this reference from first link-thread applies to this issue:
"IIRC, Ford Thaxton once said on this board that "Curse of the Jackal" would be cost-prohibitive to release since it re-use fees would apply. This makes me sad."

Also this one on second link:
The reason this pilot score hasn't been released to date is very simple, it was the only score for the series recorded in the USA with AFM players, NEW USAGE PAYMENTS would have to have been paid to them in order to release it. After the pilot, the scores for the series were recorded in Germany and other places that didn't have any new usage fees.
It's a great score that I hope someday sees the light of day.
Ford A. Thaxton

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Old 03-10-2011, 12:03 PM   #331
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I wonder if said usage fees would still apply to a new recording of the material? If I'm not mistaken, that was the case with the Curse of the Jackal recording on the "Best of the West" album. Maybe they could side-step it by getting a different orchestra to record it.

BTW, has anybody started a formal petition of any kind to get these released? Maybe that would be a better route than individual letters...we must see this music released!!
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Old 03-11-2011, 12:35 AM   #332
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Thank you so much for a Film Score Monthly link. I read it with the blink of an eye. I also found those threads...

Well done, T.E.!

I've made a dedicated page for Rosenthal's music of Curse of the Jackal, since it really deserves it and makes more sense than when split up (although Chapters 1 and 6 remain, and everything cross-links):

http://www.youngindianajonesmusic.co...-of-the-jackal

I included some of the info from the FSM forum and linked to the thread with Thaxton's comments.

Coincidentally, my wife has put Clash of the Titans on the TV.

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I wonder if said usage fees would still apply to a new recording of the material? If I'm not mistaken, that was the case with the Curse of the Jackal recording on the "Best of the West" album. Maybe they could side-step it by getting a different orchestra to record it.

Probably... that said, getting ahold of the sheet music would be a major coup. Then we'd have to rustle up an orchestra...

I'm also curious about the tracks from COTJ that were re-used in other DVD chapter credits and in the LEGO game. I wonder if the segments in Daredevils were actually re-used or re-recorded? And if re-used, was the re-use in the LEGO game actually cleared, or accidental?

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BTW, has anybody started a formal petition of any kind to get these released? Maybe that would be a better route than individual letters...we must see this music released!!

I haven't gotten around to sending my letter to Lucasfilm yet - I'm a slacker! but I have one written up. I'll include a question asking for how other fans can best make their voices heard.
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Old 03-16-2011, 08:49 PM   #333
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Well done, T.E.!

I've made a dedicated page for Rosenthal's music of Curse of the Jackal, since it really deserves it and makes more sense than when split up (although Chapters 1 and 6 remain, and everything cross-links):

http://www.youngindianajonesmusic.co...-of-the-jackal

I included some of the info from the FSM forum and linked to the thread with Thaxton's comments.

Love that Curse has its own page. The score is fantastic. It was recorded at Skywalker Ranch on the stage there. I got to attend a bit of the session. Ford is right about the re-use fees, but I think in limited numbers those costs are a lot less now. The issue as has been raised in this thread is getting someone to put out the entire score list. I have to think people like Lucas from FSM have tried - I mean we have a huge box set of Ron Jones's music from STTNG - so there is a market in limited runs for series music.

I think it is curious as well that no albums have come out for Star Wars Clone Wars other than the first movie. That worries me that LucasFilm isn't too interested in releasing any of the scores for any of the TV projects.

One thing to clarify, at least in my time on YIJC, no scores were recorded in Germany. Prague was the main location with some done in Australia.

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Old 03-17-2011, 04:13 PM   #334
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I don't think FSM has tried, really. Normally they concentrate on scores that are older than that (although their 'minimum age' shifts, too, as each year passes). The reason that Star Trek box came out is because Lukas is a very big fan of those Ron Jones scores. It's also pretty clear that Lucasfilm doesn't really care unfortunately (given that even the definitive Star Wars and Indiana Jones soundtracks are still not playing in our stereos right now).

Now that there's an X-Files box coming, YIJC and MacGyver are my top holy grails in TV scoring right now. Although I don't have that high hopes at the moment, there's so much good music in YIJC that still has not been released, you'd think it's bound to see the light of day some day. Perhaps Intrada can take it over from Varèse at a certain time (as they're Laurence Rosenthal fans).

Pretty envious you were at the scoring stage, Laird! Would love to hear some more of your first-hand experiences!
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Old 03-17-2011, 05:55 PM   #335
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Hey guys it's been a while since I've logged in (forgot and lost generated password on other PC and only bothered to change it now) but I just had to comment when...

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Well you knew it was just a matter of time until somebody put it together (Jeremiah even mentioned the idea earlier in this thread), so I thought I might as well be the first to tackle it. Ladies & gentlemen, I present...The Young Indy Music Video!

Wow! Just Wow! That is one SUPERBLY edited music video, MDew (which is ironicly what I've been drinking for the past few days to keep me energetic for work) you are the BEST! That is one awesome track choice too, want it on my iPod NOW! (which Young Indy CD is it from? I've never heard it from my collection 1-4)

I've been watching this on loop, it is so well done (especially given its length it must've taken a lot of... mileage! *rimshot*) and wow what a brilliant theme! Thank you so much for you effort mate, it has really put a smile on my face after such a tough day... congrats, fortune and glory kid

Gonna comment and like on Youtube now...

P.S. Stoo, haven't had the chance to say this since I haven't logged in but thanks for you old indy chronicles upload on your youtube channel, much appreciated
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Old 04-07-2011, 07:16 PM   #336
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I was admiring your site today once again, Tash - amazing effort.

I don't know if this qualifies for you, but there's also a rerecording of the YIJ theme on the brother compilation of Best of the West: Best of Adventure. Performance is adequate, but it was done in the early years of the Prague Philharmonic.
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Old 04-09-2011, 08:23 PM   #337
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Pretty envious you were at the scoring stage, Laird! Would love to hear some more of your first-hand experiences!

Gosh, I wish I had some good ones. We were all so busy those few months (this was in about January or February 1993 - about 2 months before the show was to air on ABC). I was running around getting stuff to the editors and to the stage. We actually built a special small mix stage just for Young Indy. (The big stages were reserved for huge movies like Jurassic Park or remixing Star Wars - that time was for the THX laserdisc editions.)

Anyway, I only stopped into the stage for maybe 10 minutes. It was amazing though to hear the orchestra live. And of course we got the recorded score a few days later after they mixed it. But we had about 4 shows in post at the time, so there was no time to linger.

I believe the orchestra was the same one (or mostly) that did the Star Wars suites. I have that CD somewhere.
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Old 05-13-2011, 10:59 AM   #338
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Satellite 1

Hey there, guys. I know it's kind of a naughty question, but as the Satellite 1 disc is rare, out-of-print, and (I suspect) was never commercial in the first place.... Would anyone mind sharing? PM if you would be able to send it my way.

Thanks!
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Old 05-14-2011, 02:54 PM   #339
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I don't know if this qualifies for you, but there's also a rerecording of the YIJ theme on the brother compilation of Best of the West: Best of Adventure. Performance is adequate, but it was done in the early years of the Prague Philharmonic.

Link added. Now I just have to track down a copy!

I also added links to the Colosseum re-releases and press-on-demand releases of the OSTs available in Europe.
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Many thanks to the couple of you who have sent the Satellite 1 link. That was... terrifying. And well worth having a copy of.
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Old 05-15-2011, 10:12 AM   #341
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That was... terrifying.
It is truly bizarre. That said, when I first received the Satellite1 tracks, I played them on a repeating loop for almost 5 hours straight!
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Anyway, I only stopped into the stage for maybe 10 minutes. It was amazing though to hear the orchestra live. And of course we got the recorded score a few days later after they mixed it. But we had about 4 shows in post at the time, so there was no time to linger.
Thanks for another story, Laird. I really envy you.
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You're welcome, Irfaan. 2 more left to go...

Since we're on the subject of asking for stuff, some of you may have read elsewhere that one of my computers was stolen a week ago. I'm in the process of going through my backup files to see what Young Indy music is missing so I may be asking some of you good folks for some help in the near future.
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Old 06-04-2011, 12:10 AM   #342
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Does anyone what the exotic indian music used in Young Indiana Jones Demons of Deception was called? This question has been bugging me for years and I would like an answer, if anyone has one.
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Old 06-19-2011, 08:13 PM   #343
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FYI, I've done a pass through Oganga and updated the cue list timings:

https://sites.google.com/site/youngi...-taker-of-life

Can someone please track down the cue used at 0:05:54 - 0:06:32 on the DVD (the bit were Indy seizes the German machine gun)? I know it's on the OSTs somewhere but my ears are not being helpful today. It's likely from Phantom Train.

Side note: The DVD timings appear to vary depending on the application used. Windows Media Player vs. Mac OS DVD Player vs. VLC time stamps for a given frame can vary by as much as 30 seconds, so take them with a grain of salt. I'm trying to stick with VLC timings as that app is available cross-platform.
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Old 06-20-2011, 03:06 PM   #344
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Can someone please track down the cue used at 0:05:54 - 0:06:32 on the DVD (the bit were Indy seizes the German machine gun)? I know it's on the OSTs somewhere but my ears are not being helpful today. It's likely from Phantom Train.

Tash, you will find most of it on OST #2, Track 9 "Desert Storm" from about 3:06 on.
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Old 06-20-2011, 10:30 PM   #345
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Tash, you will find most of it on OST #2, Track 9 "Desert Storm" from about 3:06 on.

Aye, "most of it". It's the rest that's intriguing.

I figured it out - OST #4 The Old and the Bold @ 1:30-2:01 is used for that small section, for a total of about 124 seconds of "Phantom Train" music used in the DVD version of "Oganga".
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Old 06-30-2011, 06:25 AM   #346
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Just found this edit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWizRIv6flE

First 2,16 min. is from the complete track "The 21st Royal Fusileers".
After that it goes with the track from "The Old and the Bold but on 4,08 min. goes to the different direction. At that point The Old and the Bold is cuted and it starts with the track Tally Ho. Of course all tracks are from Volume 4.

I don't have it handy near me at this point other Joel McNelly releases (Filmworks etc) so I can't remember is this a manual edit or from some other release - does anyone else knows the source of this?
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Old 06-30-2011, 02:21 PM   #347
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From the cross-fading between pieces it sounds like a fan made it.

Very cool to see more and more of the Young Indy score winding up on Youtube! I'd love to put together a video collage using some of the unofficially released score which we have thanks to excavations by the Raven team! Especially Trenches, Oganga, Hawkmen and Daredevils which all have a substantial amount to offer listeners from the Lego and DVD games.
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Old 08-09-2011, 11:14 AM   #348
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Been a while since I posted!

I met a VP from La La Land Records at Comic-com. I mentioned the idea of a Young Indy box set akin to the Ron Jones set Film Score Monthly did from Star Trek The Next Generation or that Intrada did for Amazing Stories. He was somewhat intrigued. I am going to follow up and see if I can encourage this in any way.

Don't go saving your money yet though. It's a big shot in the dark.
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Old 08-09-2011, 12:12 PM   #349
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Yay! Go lairdo, nice work!
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Old 08-09-2011, 02:40 PM   #350
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Yeah I would definitely be interested in that, on my ongoing quest for every ounce of music from anything Indiana Jones.

Thanks for looking out for us, Lairdo!
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