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Old 11-29-2012, 02:30 PM   #126
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Harlan Ellison, eh? I knew that it was someone well known. Thanks for finding the info, Attila.

That Wiki entry makes it difficult to tell what is true. It says that he was terminated the same day as the screwdriver incident but doesn't necessarily claim that it was the reason he was fired. Plus, he was bored and walking around the halls during his 1st day on the job? Huh? Did he work at Disney for 1 day or not?

If it was Roy who overheard Ellison's porno jokes, I'm assuming this must have been the late '60s/early '70s. I still wonder if being fired for such a thing would happen with today's Disney. Wasn't the word, 'sex', subliminally hidden amongst the clouds in "Aladdin" (1992) and a couple having sex in a background window in "The Rescuers" (1977)? Did anyone get fired for those PUBLIC instances?

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Old 11-29-2012, 06:53 PM   #127
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Then there is the infamous 1966 hippie-era Disney poster called "Disney Memorial Orgy", drawn by Wally Wood of Mad Magazine.


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Old 11-29-2012, 07:21 PM   #128
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Harlan Ellison, eh? I knew that it was someone well known. Thanks for finding the info, Attila.

That Wiki entry makes it difficult to tell what is true. It says that he was terminated the same day as the screwdriver incident but doesn't necessarily claim that it was the reason he was fired. Plus, he was bored and walking around the halls during his 1st day on the job? Huh? Did he work at Disney for 1 day or not?

If it was Roy who overheard Ellison's porno jokes, I'm assuming this must have been the late '60s/early '70s. I still wonder if being fired for such a thing would happen with today's Disney. Wasn't the word, 'sex', subliminally hidden amongst the clouds in "Aladdin" (1992) and a couple having sex in a background window in "The Rescuers" (1977)? Did anyone get fired for those PUBLIC instances?

The word "SFX" is written in the sky in Lion King--not SEX. It's a common mistake on people's part. In The Rescuers, there was a shot (a very very very brief--miliseconds long) photograph of a topless woman inserted into a building's window in a background as the main characters fly past. Some animator slipped it in there and it wasn't noticed until the VHS release-upon which it was immediately removed from future releases.
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Old 11-29-2012, 08:16 PM   #129
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The word "SFX" is written in the sky in Lion King--not SEX. It's a common mistake on people's part.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't this removed/changed because of public outrage & disgust, regardless of what the real letters were? (Disney bowing & scraping to squeaky-clean, political correctness?)

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In The Rescuers, there was a shot (a very very very brief--miliseconds long) photograph of a topless woman inserted into a building's window in a background as the main characters fly past. Some animator slipped it in there and it wasn't noticed until the VHS release-upon which it was immediately removed from future releases.
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The Rescuers (1977) - Gratuitous Sex
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Some animator slipped it in there and it wasn't noticed until the VHS release-upon which it was immediately removed from future releases.
Right. It was eventually removed. Did anyone get removed/fired for putting this in the film in the first place?
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Old 11-30-2012, 03:17 AM   #130
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't this removed/changed because of public outrage & disgust, regardless of what the real letters were? (Disney bowing & scraping to squeaky-clean, political correctness?)

http://www.anomalies-unlimited.com/Disney/Lion.html

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Old 11-30-2012, 11:15 AM   #131
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't this removed/changed because of public outrage & disgust, regardless of what the real letters were? (Disney bowing & scraping to squeaky-clean, political correctness?)

Courtesy of Pale Horse (from the "Indiana Jones and the Disney Connection" thread - Post #66):

Right. It was eventually removed. Did anyone get removed/fired for putting this in the film in the first place?

They didn't take it out, and you're being ridiculous. If they HAD taken it out, it wouldn't be bowing and scraping to political correctness, it'd be taking something out of a movie MEANT FOR CHILDREN that shouldn't be there.

Star Wars and Indy are owned by Disney.

DEAL. WITH. IT.

Stop the butthurt.
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Old 11-30-2012, 03:03 PM   #132
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Stop the butthurt.
Stop the temper tantrums.

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't this removed/changed because of public outrage & disgust, regardless of what the real letters were? (Disney bowing & scraping to squeaky-clean, political correctness?)
And you, stop agitating the kid. You know full well who you're dealing with and what kind of response you're baiting for. A grown man.
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Old 12-03-2012, 05:16 PM   #133
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And you, stop agitating the kid. You know full well who you're dealing with and what kind of response you're baiting for. A grown man.
Bollocks. I've been asking the same types of questions to Attila & Pale (your fellow moderators). I'm trying to establish a point here through conversation & questioning and most certainly didn't expect Raiders112390's use of the term, "butthurt", (or whatever else you're finding objectionable) nor did I realize that I, alone, would be personally held accountable for his Disney-related tantrums.

And remember, there is a difference between physical growth & mental growth...and my mind hasn't fully matured yet.
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They didn't take it out, and you're being ridiculous. If they HAD taken it out, it wouldn't be bowing and scraping to political correctness, it'd be taking something out of a movie MEANT FOR CHILDREN that shouldn't be there.

Star Wars and Indy are owned by Disney.

DEAL. WITH. IT.

Stop the butthurt.
Yes, 'political correctness' was the wrong term to use. 'Puritanical correctness' would be more suitable.

From the article that Smiffy linked to:
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www.anomalies-unlimited.com
"The Officially spewed explanation is that the letters were slipped in by a special effects group to form the abbreviation 'S-F-X' - for 'Special Effects'."
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"In fact, if it was an 'F', you think those madcap Special Effects guys would make damn sure nothing, oh nothing, got around that F to make it look like an 'E', because it would look like it said SEX! And who'd want that? This is Disney! And that would ruin the whole pat on the back to the SFX gang..."

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Sure looks like "SEX" to my eyes. What do y'all think?



Instead of re-animating the "Lion King" scene, Disney supposedly tried to pass it off as "SFX" in their official explanation. Anyway, Raiders112390, you said that the nanosecond of nudity in "The Rescuers" was removed. How dare Disney change the original film (like Lucas did with "Star Wars")!

"Butthurt"?
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Old 12-03-2012, 07:14 PM   #134
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"Butthurt"?

Wow, I have been off this stinkin' drinkin' haunt for way too long...

Butthurt?

Seems the Mod team needs to enforce some discipline, and make sure users post in the appropriate thread...
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Old 12-03-2012, 07:25 PM   #135
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It's definitely "SEX". No doubt about it. As a prank, putting in a naughty word makes far more sense than some abbreviation/acronym.
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Old 03-23-2013, 03:37 AM   #136
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'Tis a fact.

Well, so much for your confidence.

While I'm bumping this thread though, here's an article I found very amusing to say the least.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/22/travel...ate/index.html
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Old 04-02-2013, 06:48 PM   #137
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To be honest, all the channels I watched growing up have either changed too much or don't exist anymore. I used to watch Fox Kids growing up which had a wide range of programmes like Power Rangers, Beetleborgs, VR Troopers, MASK, X-Men, Fantastic 4, Iron Man, Spider-Man and Ghostbusters.

Cartoon Network isn't the same anymore either. Gone are the days of Cartoon Cartoons, Johnny Bravo, Cow & Chicken, Tiny Toons, Animaniacs, Batman, Superman, Justice League, Dexter's Lab, I M Weasel and so much more.

Disney Channel and Nickleodeon have changed more as well. I barely recognise either channel these days. Gone are the days of the likes of Talespin, DuckTales, Kenan and Kel, Sabrina the Teenage Witch, Clarissa Explains it all, Timon and Pumbaa, Chip n Dale's Rescue Rangers, 101 Dalmations, Recess, Cousin Skeeter, Hey Arnold, Doug and so much more.
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Old 04-03-2013, 08:44 PM   #138
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So today, Disney killed off LucasArts.
http://kotaku.com/disney-shuts-down-lucasarts-468473749
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Old 04-04-2013, 03:45 PM   #139
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I hate to over moderate, but Goonie...get it together.

Disney shuts down Lucas Arts

I'll chalk this one up to too much drinking...from the fountain of youth.
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Old 04-04-2013, 05:11 PM   #140
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I heard about this today. So 1313 is never coming out huh?


and I suppose Indy has been wiped clean from the face of the earth. Looks like the Nazi's one this time.
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Old 08-29-2013, 03:08 PM   #141
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Perhaps Disney will join the dark side go down the bleak DC gritty path...

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Old 08-29-2013, 04:34 PM   #142
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They already have...
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Old 11-12-2013, 07:44 PM   #143
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Perhaps Disney will join the dark side...
Who remembers when Disney frickin' SUED some nursery schools for having wall murals of their characters which were done without permission (even though the schools weren't making a dime from the paintings). This was sometime in the late '80s or early '90s, if I recall correctly. Talk about kicking your core audience in the face. Can you believe that? Those f*cking greedy b*$tard$ sued nursery schools!

The clever folks at Hanna-Barbera got wind of this and said that these schools could do paintings of their characters for free.

As Mr. Horse noted, Disney already joined The Dark Side many moons ago.
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I only watched one Disney cartoon called Cinderella. The others I watched bits of from Disney specials. My parents didn't have cable.

I don't know how to explain it exactly. From what I saw, Disney films have this warm fairy tale atmosphere that kids enjoy. These old films were made when Walt Disney, then his brother and then Walt's son in law (with two other guys) were in charge. Despite successes like Never Cry Wolf and Splash, and financing a film called Tron, Disney under those later guys still struggled financially. (Tron actually became successful later, not during its release). An investor who bought a large chunk of Disney with the other investors brought in a business oriented guy named Eisner to be the new CEO. According to a book called Disney War, it was a hostile take over. Although the films made under Eisner had a very different feeling from the previous Disney films, the newer ones were actually good in a different way. Think of The Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, and the Lion King and you'll know what I mean. However, the other later films were unsuccessful.

Here's the thing with having a CEO brought in by the board. It's fine when the business is going well. The friendly atmosphere in the office goes away when things don't. The CEO knows that he can be replaced. He becomes paranoid and starts to distrust anyone in the business whom he thinks could replace him. After experiencing failures, he becomes reluctant to try new ideas. That's when creativity is lost. Eventually, the board replaced Eisner.

When looking at what happened to the History Channel after Disney bought it, I'm very disappointed with the new replacement.
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Old 11-14-2013, 01:33 AM   #145
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As Mr. Horse noted, Disney already joined The Dark Side many moons ago.





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Old 11-14-2013, 04:00 AM   #146
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Or there's these images imagined by Dina Goldstein in her series "Fallen Princesses":


Snow White is one of my favorites, but all of the images convey a lot.




Rapunzel




‘Fallen Princesses’: The Amazing Photos of Depressed Disney Royalty

It made the rounds back in August. Maybe some of you have seen it.
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Old 11-14-2013, 07:39 AM   #147
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One might check out the "Disneyland Memorial Orgy" from 1966.

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Can you believe that? Those f*cking greedy b*$tard$ sued nursery schools!

Fun fact: Y'know all those pictures people take in the park -- including that, like, producer guy -- of the attractions and rides and characters and stuff? They're copyrighted and Disney could sue you if they really, really wanted to.

Anyway, in other news: Have fond memories of these guys?



Hang onto your butts then, because they're getting a digital makeover!

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Chip ‘n’ Dale, Disney’s classic cartoon chipmunk duo, is being revived with the goal of becoming a big-screen feature.

The studio has picked up a pitch from Robert Rugan, an award-winning commercials director, who is writing an updated take on the characters in what is being envisioned as a live-action/CG hybrid.

Mandeville Films/TV, the Disney-based production shingle run by David Hoberman and Todd Lieberman that is also behind the studio’s Muppets franchise, is producing.

Full article: Disney Revives 'Chip-n-Dale' for Live Action Feature
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