Time to Reign it in, boys. This conversation is strain into Behavior we don't condone here at the raven. And Lord knows were pretty lenient. Nevertheless this is a warning.
I think Harrison was the best Indy, but he wasn't the only Indy. So I find it a little ridiculous when posters claim only Harrison can/should play Indy. In fact, Harrison has less screen time as Indy than two other actors who've played him.Raiders112390 said:Well when you have a faction of fans who want to accuse Harrison of having Alzheimer's - basically wishing something worse than death on him - just so he won't be part of the film, it's easy why others would see such as hatred.
Pale Horse said:Time to Reign it in, boys. This conversation is strain into Behavior we don't condone here at the raven. And Lord knows were pretty lenient. Nevertheless this is a warning.
Z dweller said:Easy, tiger.
Ford wasn't even their first choice, as you know perfectly well.
If Selleck had taken the part, you'd be here telling us that Tom is Indy and Indy is Tom.
Dr. Jones is a great character.
Ford did a fantastic job with it and we all love him here, despite your pathetic Pratt ramblings.
But nothing lasts forever. Ford is getting old and soon someone else will pick up the baton.
Deal with it.
I know Harrison Flies planes but he Is only in his mid or early 70's no reason to think he Is dying anytime soon. Didn't his dad die of natural causes at 95 years old? When you turn 50 and beyond age Is just a number Medicine and health is way better then it has ever been peoples life spans are getting older and older as years go on. In baseball 35 used to be old not anymore players are playing well into there 40's some close to 50!moon_tan said:I just got myself into an Indiana Jones mood again watching The Last Crusade and Crystal Skull. Oh, how I wish Steven Spielberg and Disney could change their mind and start filming this year in 2018 for a 2019 release. I know Harrison Ford mentioned he wanted to start filming it in the middle of 2018.
I worry that something may happen to Harrison Ford before he could start filming this movie in 2019 in what I feel will be his swan song. Despite Spielberg saying their will be more after Indiana Jones 5, realistically, it takes too long for Spielberg to make another Indiana Jones movie. They should have made more while Harrison Ford was younger and in his prime. Having problems coming up with a MacGruffin? The Librarians tv movies and tv series has not had a problem looking for something to search for.
If Spielberg and Lucas should die in their 70's, I hope Disney can find someone to take over the whips and create more Indiana Jones adventures with a director and writer that really care about the genre.
In answer to Tom Selleck as the first choice to play Indy, I am so glad he didn't get the part because of Magnum P.I.
Harrison Ford IS "Indiana Jones" and he has the body, the charisma and the facial expressions to match.
Tom Selleck looks terrible these days. I can't stand him anyway and I stopped watching Blue Bloods.
Harrison Ford has saved the Indiana Jones franchise.
For Indiana Jones 5, I hope they can bring back John Rhys-Davies as "Sallah" and Jonathan Ke Quan as "Short Round".
I hope Harrison Ford takes his vitamins and can hang on to 2020.
DARTH ZOIDBERG said:I know Harrison Flies planes but he Is only in his mid or early 70's no reason to think he Is dying anytime soon. Didn't his dad die of natural causes at 95 years old? When you turn 50 and beyond age Is just a number Medicine and health is way better then it has ever been peoples life spans are getting older and older as years go on. In baseball 35 used to be old not anymore players are playing well into there 40's some close to 50!
DARTH ZOIDBERG said:He Is only in his mid or early 70's no reason to think he Is dying anytime soon.
Raiders112390 said:Actually I find Steven to be as much of a liability, or worse, than Lucas was. Lucas now would actually be better than he was then (In terms of the fact that he IS a great storyteller, but now doesn't have unilateral control). Spielberg to me has been a hit and miss director for over a decade, and if we're being honest, the issues with KOTCS lay as much with the direction as it did with the script.
You have the same creative team on this as KOTCS with the exception of Lucas (Spielberg, Kathleen Kennedy, David Koepp), plus now both have to answer to the suits at Disney who will want a sanitized product which they will be able to sell toys for, appeal to the Millenial market/feminism, not offend anyone, as well as appeal to the Chinese market. At the same they'll also want to straddle the "Ford Question" in a way which won't totally displease his fans, but also allow for tons of reboots and spin-offs. So you might get an Indy film where Ford guest-stars, which will turn off his fans. You might get a film where he has a younger sidekick once more doing even more of the work, who espouses Millenial friendly attitudes and humor, which will **** off the diehards period; The 1930s-1960s will be shown in a very sanitized form so as not to upset the PC police and threaten the financial apple cart. The options for a MacGuffin are very limited; do not expect a Christian artifact, for example.
I expect something that will please the mindless masses by hitting all the right buttons but will be of little substance overall. Something akin to many of the Marvel movies or the Force Awakens: Great in the moment, but ultimately, in the long run, just junk food; not memorable; lacking the depth of LC, the grit of Raiders, or the all-out over the top frenzy of ToD. It'll be like a Disney version of Last Crusade.
Raiders112390 said:I believe the reasons I listed are why there's been such a delay. They're trying to figure out how to make an Indy film work given all these factors. I mean one thing we must keep in mind is that any potential blockbuster HAS to appeal to China now. Indy is a very much American/Western franchise; it isn't universal in the way Star Wars is (and even that franchise has issues in China in terms of marketing); nor does it have anywhere near as big of ingrained audience. It is a very limited thing to an extent compared to Disney's big IPs.
Making an Indy film a blockbuster (to the tune of say at least 800 mil to a billion, which is probably what Disney will want) is a hard sell in 2018. It's not like Marvel, which has a legion of fans cultivated over 50 years. It hasn't had any entry or any market presence in literally a decade, and the last entry was considered so-so by most so they have to think of a great HOOK to bring those lost or disinterested fans back.
I really see this as a lose-lose, both for the fans and Disney, actually.
Raiders112390 said:Making an Indy film a blockbuster (to the tune of say at least 800 mil to a billion, which is probably what Disney will want) is a hard sell in 2018. It's not like Marvel, which has a legion of fans cultivated over 50 years. It hasn't had any entry or any market presence in literally a decade, and the last entry was considered so-so by most so they have to think of a great HOOK to bring those lost or disinterested fans back.
I really see this as a lose-lose, both for the fans and Disney, actually.
Raiders112390 said:appeal to the Millenial market
Raiders112390 said:I believe the reasons I listed are why there's been such a delay. They're trying to figure out how to make an Indy film work given all these factors. I mean one thing we must keep in mind is that any potential blockbuster HAS to appeal to China now. Indy is a very much American/Western franchise; it isn't universal in the way Star Wars is (and even that franchise has issues in China in terms of marketing); nor does it have anywhere near as big of ingrained audience. It is a very limited thing to an extent compared to Disney's big IPs.
Making an Indy film a blockbuster (to the tune of say at least 800 mil to a billion, which is probably what Disney will want) is a hard sell in 2018. It's not like Marvel, which has a legion of fans cultivated over 50 years. It hasn't had any entry or any market presence in literally a decade, and the last entry was considered so-so by most so they have to think of a great HOOK to bring those lost or disinterested fans back.
I really see this as a lose-lose, both for the fans and Disney, actually.
Forbidden Eye said:The fact Jumanji, an Indiana Jones-lite film directed by Kasdan?s son, has grossed over $370 million here plus has grossed almost $900 mil worldwide hurts those points. People still want to see a classic adventure tale if done right(also look at the success of the recent Jungle Book), the fact that Indy travels the globe make this series a pretty popular one overseas; take out the US gross, KOTCS made more money than any other film in 2008, even The Dark Knight.
It?s harder to make Indiana Jones an ?expanded universe?, sure, but there?s still enough history, interest, and goodwill towards the brand that Indy 5, if done right and gets solid enough reviews, will be plenty profitable at the box office.