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Old 06-03-2017, 04:00 PM   #51
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Hey Stoo, yeah I missed it in Boca Raton because it wasn't even listed on their docket !! I know they did something but it wasn't at all like what they did in other cities, MHO it was a half ass attempt but I did make an effort to go. I'm at the point that I will fly to another city to see it. I'm keeping hope alive to see it somewhere !!
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Old 06-05-2017, 12:15 PM   #52
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Hey, folks, I mostly lurk around here, and haven't been on since August of 2016, and I had missed this thread.

I went to Raiders in Concert back in April, documented on my blog:

http://saguisag.com/blogv4/2017/04/raiders-live/

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Old 06-06-2017, 07:35 PM   #53
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It looks like I'm going to the Hollywood Bowl concert as I got an invitation. I think I'm going to accept, as last time I went to something like this for the 'Lost' soundtrack it was really good.
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Old 07-13-2017, 01:17 PM   #54
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Link for tickets to the Hollywood Bowl:
http://www.hollywoodbowl.com/tickets...ert/2017-08-04
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Old 07-13-2017, 02:37 PM   #55
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Link for tickets to the Hollywood Bowl:
http://www.hollywoodbowl.com/tickets...ert/2017-08-04

Nice! I think I am definitely going to this, at least I hope so!
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Old 07-20-2017, 12:33 AM   #56
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Man, So Many Choices this Year!! U2, Toto, Paul McCartney and now this!! I would ABSOLUTELY LOVE to see them ALL!! HOPE I CAN! Wish I lived in L.A. now as it would make it easier to catch. On the other hand, it's a good thing I don't yet, since, after viewing the upcoming bookings for The Hollywood Bowl, I could be easily tempted to go every other week!! That would get spendy, Quick!
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Old 07-20-2017, 11:01 AM   #57
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Man, So Many Choices this Year!! U2, Toto, Paul McCartney and now this!
I'm seeing the two amigos:
http://www.stevemartin.com/stevemartin/tour.html
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Old 08-05-2017, 11:59 AM   #58
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EDIT looks like indybanzai noticed a lot of the same little quirks!

I saw the show at the hollywood bowl last night. Some things I noticed:

Jock's lines sounded really weird. Has anyone noticed this before? Are there multiple versions of his audio or something?

They skipped part of a scene! Intermission started right when they were digging for the well of the souls. When they started again, they skipped the whole sequence with the diggers singing and went right them finding the slab that they pry open.

This version had the "do they think im dumb" line in the truck sequence.

Hoping someone knows more about the Jock line. I had never noticed that before.
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Old 08-05-2017, 07:24 PM   #59
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EDIT looks like indybanzai noticed a lot of the same little quirks!

I saw the show at the hollywood bowl last night. Some things I noticed:

Jock's lines sounded really weird. Has anyone noticed this before? Are there multiple versions of his audio or something?

They skipped part of a scene! Intermission started right when they were digging for the well of the souls. When they started again, they skipped the whole sequence with the diggers singing and went right them finding the slab that they pry open.

This version had the "do they think im dumb" line in the truck sequence.

Hoping someone knows more about the Jock line. I had never noticed that before.


I was going to go to this but then things fell through and I didnt end up going after all. Yeah it seems fun for these that went though.
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Old 10-01-2017, 01:15 PM   #60
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Alternate Sound Mix

For those that might be interested, this is the story behind the alternate mix from Ben Burtt. I asked him about it in person around 20 years ago after I heard the alternate mix at a 16mm screening.

The mix was intended to be the final mix and was also intended to be presented in the Vistasonic format (that's a whole other story). But Lucas went in at the last minute and heavily cut down the opening of the ark scene. The sequence already had completed effects and musical score, but he felt that it needed to move faster. So he removed some shots and cut many others to be very short, particularly the ghost effects. That's why the music for the scene is heavily edited in the final film. If you are interested in hearing the complete scene, you can hear in on the Movie on Record which was released in 1981. That record also has other alternate bits of music, dialogue and sound effects.

Here's the ark opening scene:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1cFyocLs5M

Since the ark opening scene was re-edited so late in the schedule, the sound was hastily re-edited to match the new cut. This resulted in some sloppy music and sound effects editing. Time was short, so that mix was used to create stems for foreign language mixes and mixes for some Super 8mm and 16mm prints.

However, once John Williams saw how they had butchered his music in the ark opening scene, he asked for a remix so they could edit the music more to his liking. It was also decided at the last minute not to use the Vistasonic process and go with Dolby instead. So Ben Burtt took the opportunity to revise the entire mix, resulting in the more polished mix we are familiar with.

That new mix was completed very close to release, so it was only used on prints for the English release. The foreign dubs all used the music and sound effects stems from the earlier mix. You can hear some of those mixes on the DVD and blu-ray. You won't hear the alternate dialogue of course, but you can hear the alternate sound effects and music edits. Compare the ark opening scene in particular to hear huge differences in music editing, sound effects, even different screams.

It seems that the earlier mix is the only one which has stems available (for dialogue, music and sound effects). So that mix was used for the making of specials on the DVD and Blu-ray, and was also used for the recent orchestral screenings (because they only needed the dialogue and sound effects tracks). However, the orchestra plays the music as it was edited in the final English sound mix, not the alternate mix.

I have a Super 8mm print of Raiders with the alternate soundtrack if anyone is interested. It is 16 minute cut down version. There are also some 16mm prints out there with the alternate mix. And supposedly TBS once showed the movie with the alternate mix, but I have never been able to verify that.

Incidentally, the original 35mm 4 track mix has never been released on home video. All home video versions have used remixes, some derived from the 70mm 6 track mix.

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Old 10-04-2017, 09:12 AM   #61
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This is great stuff. Thanks for sharing this story.
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Old 10-04-2017, 10:30 AM   #62
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Yes, thanks for the trivia. It was reminiscent of Pauline Kael's negative review: "You can almost feel Lucas and Spielberg whipping the editor to clip things sharper—to move ahead."
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