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View Poll Results: Honestly...will there be another Indy film in the next decade?
Absolutely!!! I'm in lala land 50 35.71%
Maybe...but not today. 53 37.86%
No, not with any of the current creators and members. 19 13.57%
Heck no, no denial issues here. 8 5.71%
I may not like it, but a Re-boot is possible within the decade 16 11.43%
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Old 01-14-2016, 06:02 AM   #7051
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A few things:

Indy will happen with Ford. No other actor will play the part in the near future, as confirmed by Frank Marshall.

2018 is almost guaranteed. So is the film being set in the 1960s. It was created with the intention of being a kind of homage to James Bond so how cool would it be to have it be a sort of spy thriller type Indy film? It would perfectly book end the series.

Spielberg will direct, Lucas might contribute some story ideas but that's doubtful. This is the way it will go down. All this nonsense about different actors, different time periods, Ford coming in at the beginning and then the end... I don't see that at all.
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Old 01-14-2016, 06:53 AM   #7052
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They could use a digitally de-aged Ford like Michael Douglas in Ant-Man's opening scene (Only for the usual action prologue set in the 1930s or 1940s). After that they could tell the last adventure of Indy involving a famous biblical artifact (No aliens this time). An older Indy in the style of Sean Connery playing Quatermain ("The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen") when he was 73 years old.

The last shot of this movie could be very emotional, because it will be the last time we see Harrison Ford playing Indy or, maybe, the last time we see Ford in the screen (Like John Wayne's last movie "The Shootist").
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Old 01-14-2016, 09:00 AM   #7053
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2018 is almost guaranteed. So is the film being set in the 1960s. It was created with the intention of being a kind of homage to James Bond so how cool would it be to have it be a sort of spy thriller type Indy film? It would perfectly book end the series..

I suppose in theory, they could set the film in 1959. Kind of like how Last Crusade was supposedly set shortly after Raiders despite being made eight years later.

It all depends on how scared Spielberg is of actually bringing Indiana Jones into the 1960s. And there's good reason to be scared of it. I think the best approach is to stay away from America (a la Temple of Doom) so as not to have to deal with pop culture stuff.
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Old 01-14-2016, 10:23 AM   #7054
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So is the film being set in the 1960s. It was created with the intention of being a kind of homage to James Bond so how cool would it be to have it be a sort of spy thriller type Indy film? It would perfectly book end the series.

I like this idea a lot.
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Old 01-14-2016, 10:36 AM   #7055
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It all depends on how scared Spielberg is of actually bringing Indiana Jones into the 1960s. And there's good reason to be scared of it. I think the best approach is to stay away from America (a la Temple of Doom) so as not to have to deal with pop culture stuff.

I think some scenes in the first act showing Indy on campus dealing with 1960s student culture could make for some great moments, honestly. As long as they were kept to the beginning of the film. If done right, it could really add weight to the idea that this guy feels "in his element" only when out in the wild, exploring digs, lost ruins, etc. Take the rest of the film out of the U.S. and keep it away. Just don't ruin the pacing half way through like they did with KOTCS.
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Old 01-14-2016, 10:37 AM   #7056
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I like this idea a lot.

I think it's interesting and could definitely be cool, but let's be realistic--there is no way Disney is not going to "play it safe" with the new Indy movie. I fully expect a Force Awakens style retread. Which could still be awesome, mind you.
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Old 01-14-2016, 12:50 PM   #7057
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let's be realistic--there is no way Disney is not going to "play it safe" with the new Indy movie. I fully expect a Force Awakens style retread.
Correct.

As posited before, Disney's hugely successful TFA approach will no doubt be also applied to Indy 5.

They'll go right back to the roots of the movie series, which can hardly happen if the whole adventure is set in the 60s on account of Ford's age.

A few scenes bookending the main story are all that "Indy in the 60s" fans can hope for, and the odds of Ford being in the movie at all are getting longer every day.
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Which could still be awesome, mind you.
Agreed.

Indy in his prime in the late 20s or early 30s, bring it on!

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Old 01-14-2016, 07:41 PM   #7058
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2018 is almost guaranteed. So is the film being set in the 1960s. It was created with the intention of being a kind of homage to James Bond so how cool would it be to have it be a sort of spy thriller type Indy film? It would perfectly book end the series.

A spy thriller type would not fit Indiana Jones.
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Old 01-15-2016, 07:45 AM   #7059
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I'm not sure about that. I mean, you couldn't go full-on James Bond, obviously, but a certain element of espionage wouldn't be out of place in an Indy movie. Darabont did the Hitchcockian man-on-the-run thing to great effect in the first act of his Indy 4 script, and of course Crystal Skull acknowledges a lot of off-screen spy missions with Indy and Mac during WWII.

Indiana Jones movies tend to honor a lot of different influences (A dab of Casablanca here, a touch of Sierra Madre there) without completely going off track, so if the next Indy did pay tribute to spy thrillers I don't think it would be implemented in a way that overwhelmed the whole thing.
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Old 01-16-2016, 08:23 AM   #7060
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I'm not sure about that. I mean, you couldn't go full-on James Bond, obviously, but a certain element of espionage wouldn't be out of place in an Indy movie. Darabont did the Hitchcockian man-on-the-run thing to great effect in the first act of his Indy 4 script, and of course Crystal Skull acknowledges a lot of off-screen spy missions with Indy and Mac during WWII.

Indiana Jones movies tend to honor a lot of different influences (A dab of Casablanca here, a touch of Sierra Madre there) without completely going off track, so if the next Indy did pay tribute to spy thrillers I don't think it would be implemented in a way that overwhelmed the whole thing.

Exactly.

I seriously hope Disney is not going to make a half-remake of Raiders nor will include tons of homages in Indy 5. I hated SW7. I'd rather have another KOTSC than a safe movie.
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Old 01-16-2016, 03:09 PM   #7061
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The will use a biblical/religious Mcguffin for sure after all the criticism with aliens.

Maybe Lucas had all this planned before Indy 4: we could make 2 movies, 1 with my risky idea of aliens and the other using again a biblical artifact, exactly 10 years after Indy 4, dealing with Indy's last days and release it in 2018.

Spielberg in the 2008 DVD documentary: "Is Harrison too old to play Indiana Jones? He wasn't at 55. He sure ain't at 65. And I'm sure he's got 10 years left in him if he wants to do something like this again".

If Lucas had the 7-9 Star Wars episodes outlined maybe he also wrote Indy's last adventure before selling the franchise to Disney.

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Old 01-16-2016, 09:32 PM   #7062
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If Force Awakens is anything to go by, Indy 5 will be Raiders 2.0 or the 3-in-1 that VII was...

But Last Crusade was arguably Raiders 2.0 and Crystal Skull was a cover of the first three so Indy 5 could be the safest Indy ever?

Although if Disney/Lucasfilm were keen on Spielberg doing it, I think and hope he'd at least push against doing Nazi ratlines or whatever. I'm one of those monsters who likes Crystal Skull and the Star Wars prequels but didn't care for Episode VII so I'd rather avoid a Raiders redux. However, VII would suggest that that's what the audience at large would be perfectly happy with.

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If Lucas had the 7-9 Star Wars episodes outlined maybe he also wrote Indy's last adventure before selling the franchise to Disney.

They ditched Lucas' Star Wars sequel ideas anyway (which were to help sell Lucasfilm).
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Old 01-17-2016, 06:34 AM   #7063
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A spy thriller type would not fit Indiana Jones.

Have you not seen the first four films?

There are tons of cross-over elements of a spy film within these movies. Lucas and Spielberg have said numerous times they based the whole frigging thing on James Bond. Like Bond, Indy travels around the world on a mission, hooks up with one of his allies in an exotic location, meets a girl (Indy girl, Bond girl, same thing), clashes with a bad guy Indy/Bond is either trying to disrupt or each side wants the same thing.

Whether it's a secret spy/decoding machine or a lost artifact, it's basically all the same plot. Indy or Bond, it's so similar, I don't understand how you couldn't see that.
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Old 01-17-2016, 07:14 AM   #7064
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In fact the climax of Raiders involved the destruction of the villain's lair like in the James Bond films. The originality was using the power of God and not a normal explosion.

In "Star Wars" there're also a lot of references. The climax of "Diamonds are forever" with the helicopter attack on the oil rig is similar to the rebel attack on the Death Star for example.

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Old 01-17-2016, 07:53 AM   #7065
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I seriously hope Disney is not going to make a half-remake of Raiders nor will include tons of homages in Indy 5. I hated SW7. I'd rather have another KOTSC than a safe movie.

We're at huge risk for a safe movie, I'm afraid.
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Old 01-17-2016, 10:15 AM   #7066
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A safe movie is not necessarily a bad thing.

Let's face it, Indy's adventures have always been highly formulaic, as well as completely derivative. That's what Lucas set up to do in the first place.

So what? We still love them.

Like Bond movies, they all follow the same predictable storyline. The only differences between the various adventures are the artifact, the antagonist(s), the lndy girl and the set pieces.

If Disney can get a solid script and stick with the formula, without exactly lifting any of the aforementioned elements from the first four movies, they can still deliver a good Indy 5.

Of course, if they went the full TFA route and gave us, say, another boulder, just bigger, then we'd have every reason to be disappointed, but I very much doubt it.
In TFA they kind of got away with it because the new characters undoubtedly injected an element of novelty, despite the all too obvius references - but that wouldn't work with Indy which isn't an ensemble piece, and they know it only too well.
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Old 01-17-2016, 03:01 PM   #7067
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Have you not seen the first four films?

That's a stupid question to ask anyone on these message boards.

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Lucas and Spielberg have said numerous times they based the whole frigging thing on James Bond.

That is an incredibly wrong statement. The "whole frigging thing" is based on the old cliffhanger serials - not James Bond movies. Sure I realize there may be some inspiration from James Bond that both filmmakers have acknowledged, just as there is inspiration from Casablanca, Treasure of the Sierra Madre, Stagecoach, Gunga Din, Hitchcock films, etc.

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Indy or Bond, it's so similar, I don't understand how you couldn't see that.

The fact that both series contain adventure, women, villains, and exotic locales do not make them one in the same. The feel of watching Indiana Jones is different from the feel of watching James Bond. I love both characters, but your insinuation is that the two characters are interchangeable. They are not.
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Old 01-17-2016, 03:06 PM   #7068
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In "Star Wars" there're also a lot of references. The climax of "Diamonds are forever" with the helicopter attack on the oil rig is similar to the rebel attack on the Death Star for example.

Are you saying that Diamonds Are Forever inspired the attack on the Death Star???? If so, think again.

The Death Star attack was directly inspired by The Dam Busters and 633 Squadron.
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Old 01-17-2016, 04:22 PM   #7069
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Yes, but Lucas also took elements from other movies. In "Diamonds" you have the good guys attacking the secret base with helicopters and at the same time the bad guys are going to destroy Washington with a ten-minute countdown. Similar situation in "Star Wars" with the rebel attack with X-Wings and the countdown to destroy Yavin.

By the way in "Diamonds" there's also a scene with Bond emerging from a sewer pipe that reminds me of the scene in "Last crusade" with Indy and Elsa climbing out of the Venice sewer.

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Old 03-13-2016, 09:47 PM   #7070
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https://twitter.com/LeDoctor/status/709180513341153280

If this one doesn't amount to something Indy (or Tintin) related, I'm going to be super bummed.

Which is to say I'm probably going to be super bummed. But fair warning and all that...
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Old 03-14-2016, 11:34 AM   #7071
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https://twitter.com/LeDoctor/status/709180513341153280

If this one doesn't amount to something Indy (or Tintin) related, I'm going to be super bummed.

Which is to say I'm probably going to be super bummed. But fair warning and all that...

Well, you've got me waiting now too, Curmudgeon. It's probably Bourne related, but an Indy fan can hope.

It would be good timing for an announcement. The Force Awakens comes out on DVD/BluRay April 5th, so an Indy 5 announcement would worm its way into any press surrounding the release as "In other Lucasfilm news..."

This IS the sequel we're looking for.
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Old 03-14-2016, 02:52 PM   #7072
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Its either Indy or a Jurassic World sequel is my feeling about that Frank Marshall tweet.
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Old 03-14-2016, 03:41 PM   #7073
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Fingers crossed...
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Old 03-15-2016, 10:48 AM   #7074
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Has a Frank Marshall Tweet ever resulted in something significant?

Do your research.
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Old 03-15-2016, 11:21 AM   #7075
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Has a Frank Marshall Tweet ever resulted in something significant?

Do your research.

A single drop of water has never quenched the person dying of thirst, but mouths still continue to gape.

Yes, it's fan hope.
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