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Well, IM's final chapter was very alien themed, and now when I'm looking at it from a certain angle, I can actually see some homages paid to Saucer Men even though IM's built more like a traditional adventure. Certain themes are there that could have made it into game straight from Stuart's scrapped script.DarthLowBudget said:I was going to suggest that the game may have been more Alien themed.
Indiana Jones 4
First Archive Scoops Pre-1999:
(February, 1996 - September 20, 1998)
February, 1996... The Lucasfilm club reports that screenwriter Jeffrey Boam has handed in a treatment that Lucas liked, and Spielberg and Ford are currently looking it over. The script may feature the return of some of the previous leading ladies of the trilogy: Kate Capshaw was interviewed by Parade magazine that all three actresses are lobbying to be in the show, and word is that Karen Allen's character of Marion figures in the Boam script. Boam is working on a second draft.
March, 1996... Boam's second draft is in Lucasfilm's hands, reports producer Rick McCallum.
July 18, 1996... A unconfirmed 'source' at Paramount tells us that the script leaked was indeed the real draft by Jeffrey Boam, and that Lucasfilm wants to 'test the waters'. However, new ideas such as the search for the Garden of Eden and a different rival college named 'Professor Conrad' are mentioned - which aren't in the Sons of Darkness Internet script.
July 22, 1996... Drew Babcock, a freelance writer for film and television at the Washington Post writes to us to tell of a recent interview with Steven Spielberg. One answer he could not be too specific about was the next Indiana Jones film. Spielberg may or may not direct it depending on his schedule at DreamWorks. However Speilberg said any ideas of the lost city of Atlantis have not been a part of the script process. He also did say that the movie may have an ancient biblical element. When asked what kind, Spielberg said something 'to do with Adam and Eve'. Babcock was interested, and decided to pursue it further - a source at Paramount told him the title 'Indiana Jones and the Garden of Life' is being tossed around.
September 3, 1996... On August 18th, Steve Sansweet (a Lucasfilm representative) said at a science fiction convention that Lucas, Spielberg, and Ford had recently agreed on a script. They are now just waiting to schedule filming. Sansweet said it would probably happen after 1999-2000. However, nothing's been released to the mainstream press yet.
January 28, 1997... At the Fangoria Weekend Of Horrors Convention (held in Chicago, August '96) Lucasfilm rep Steve Sansweet confirmed that Steven Spielberg, George Lucas and Harrison Ford had all approved the latest (at that time) draft of the Indy IV script. "At this time [Indy 4 is] as close to being a reality as its ever been, and not just a rumor," Sansweet said. He then went on to drop a few hints as to the particulars of the plot. Sansweet hinted that Sean Connery was going to return, and that the film would "probably" be filmed in 1998 for a 1999 release date. Sansweet cited the busy schedule of all three Indy creators as being the key factor in the way of Indiana Jones' return.
July 6, 1997... According to this person's friend who's a computer animator working at ILM, the next Indy film won't feature an evil brother - just that it's got something to do with religion.
July 22, 1997... According to this fellow who heard it straight from the mouth of Steve Sansweet, Lucas, Spielberg and Ford have agreed upon the script. Now all that remains is scheduling the time for the three to collaborate on the film.
September 9, 1997... Here are a couple of new strong rumors to toss on the ol' Indy pile. If this keeps up the page'll begin to look like the present James Bond page...
"While I was managing a movie theater here in Moscow, Idaho, one of my employees told me about a local resident (a friend of her father's) who was approached by someone connected with Spielberg and the Indiana Jones IV development team.
"This resident (who I am acquainted with; a friend of my family as well) is a minister and theologist. He recently took a trip back east for biblical research, and became involved with a study of Genesis.
"So, somewhere along the line, someone connected with Indiana Jones IV heard about his studies and asked him to participate in fact-checking and historical accuracy with Indy Jones IV. He mentioned to my employee that they sent him a completed script to be checked for biblical truth and reverancy. He read the script and gave it his personal seal of approval.
"He mentioned that the script dealt with the Garden of Eden, and its discovery by Indiana Jones. He said that it was extremely religous in its tone, and that it played with some of the same elements as Raiders of the Lost Ark. He also said that the script was only a 'possibility,' one of several possible ideas for Indy IV. He said it was very exciting and would play well as a film.
"I would have to rate this scoop as extremely reliable; I know this minister and theologist personally. I have no doubts as to the accuracy of this story." We'd love to be able to confirm the existence of multiple Indy 4 scripts and/or proposals besides the older (and already passed-by) ones.
January 14, 1998... This scooper claims to have heard from an inside source in DreamWorks that there are some 'hard' facts established for what will become the nest Indy picture. The scooper claims that the next film will be set after World War Two, and that Indy will have a wife and a daughter and possibly other family members. Sean Connery is planned to return as Indy's Dad. The casting would be finished by March, and so the scooper is assuming something official will be heard around then.
May 5, 1998... "This movie won't be getting made anytime soon, if at all," our mysterious scoop informant whispers in our ear. "While one of Paramount's big-wish films, Harrison Ford nor Steven Spielberg like the scripts that have been turned in. Jeffrey Boam's latest surrounded the post-WWII recovery of a Nazi sub, the discovery of some Dead Sea Scrolls, a metatronic (meaning: the power of God appearing to take you away physically) device, and Indy's family. The evil brother storyline isn't anywhere to be found, as in Jeb Stuart's treatment. Indy's dad's involved, but not to the extent of INDY 3 -- he's more comic relief in the vein of Marcus Brody. Right now, with Harrison getting older, don't hold your breath for this one." And the Indy fans 'round the world let out a collective sigh...
September 20, 1998... Could this be the news we've all been waiting for? "I saw a Dreamwatch magazine, Sept. cover#48, that had a one page article on Jurassic Park 3 & Indy 4. It states that Jeffrey Boam script for Indy 4 has been shelved. And that Spielberg supposedly has approached Raiders co-writer Lawrence Kasdan to come up with a story.
"Whether this is true is speculative (this much is from the mag). It seems everywhere I've been on the web, knows that Jeffrey Boam has been the only writer ever approached to do Indy 4's story. He has stated that his initial treatment 4-5 yrs ago has never been acknowledged by Lucas etc. Spielberg from what I've read, has always stated that he has a general story idea for Indy 4 right now. Seems he has a heavy involvement with this one in terms of creativity. I personally don't know what to believe."
There was? Long before Darabont? By who and about what?February 24, 1999... "A week ago from last Friday, Steven Spielberg was interviewed on the show Access Hollywood, where he was attending a critics ceremony. Spielberg was asked questions about the success of SPR, and then he was asked about his pal Lucas' upcoming Star Wars prequel. He mentioned that he has seen it (what there was of it) and that he couldn't wait until he can see it again, in full.
"The reporter also asked Steven Spielberg what his next film is, and Spielberg said that this coming fall season he hopes to start filming Minority Report with Tom Cruise.
"And, then, the reporter asked Spielberg if there is going to be another Indiana Jones film. Spielberg responded that there is going to be another film, and that he hopes to have it out in theaters at no later than the summer of 2001."
May 4, 1999... During last weekend's Star Wars Celebration, producer Rick McCallum answered a fan's question about the stuck-in-development-hell Indy 4 movie. McCallum said that there's a script that Lucas, Spielberg and Ford are all excited about but unfortunately McCallum can't see the start of the movie for at least another four to five years.
I quite liked Frank’s script, but George and I had a disagreement over it, and George and I have always agreed to agree. So when we take each other’s temperatures, if I really am passionate about something, George will give in to me, and if George is really passionate about something, I’ll pretty much go his way. And in this case George was passionate that this was not the story he wanted to tell at this point in the Indiana Jones saga.
bergstrom said:Remember the deal with paramount? Raiders PLUS 4, yes 4 sequels.
Am I right thre? If so, shouldn't we be getting another one and if not, isn't that breach of contract, blah blah... (george, u listening???)
Berg
Avilos said:But now that they actually made another, and everyone seems to enjoyed themselves, the pressure is gone. So maybe they will make another one. A lot of ideas were developed for this "last film". It would not take long for them to get ideas for the next.
The problem is still there though even if delayed. What is the last Indiana Jones movie going to be about. If not KotCS what? Does it really matter? Maybe the last one does not have to have an particular significance story wise. Just be of the usual quality. If that is the case, they should continue.
1993
Ford: “Steven Spielberg and I have been talking. We have the nub of an idea for another Indiana Jones adventure.”
1995*
Lucas: ''Harrison said, 'No way am I being in a Steve Spielberg movie like [Saucer Men].' And Steven said, 'I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.'''
1996
Boam has handed in a treatment that Lucas liked, and Spielberg and Ford are currently looking it over.
The search for the Garden of Eden and a different rival college named 'Professor Conrad' are mentioned.
The movie may have an ancient biblical element. When asked what kind, Spielberg said something 'to do with Adam and Eve'.
Lucas, Spielberg, and Ford had recently agreed on a script.
1997*
Lucas: "We ended up putting the atom bomb scene that Jeff Boam and I had in the middle at the head of the movie."
Lucas: "Once we put Marion in the movie and knew they were going to be reunited, we first thought there should be a daughter Indy didn't know about. She was going to be 13, a little spitfire."
1998
The next film will be set after World War Two, and that Indy will have a wife and a daughter and possibly other family members.
Harrison Ford nor Steven Spielberg like the scripts that have been turned in. Jeffrey Boam's latest surrounded the post-WWII recovery of a Nazi sub, the discovery of some Dead Sea Scrolls, a metatronic (meaning: the power of God appearing to take you away physically) device, and Indy's family.
Spielberg from what I've read, has always stated that he has a general story idea for Indy 4.
1999
McCallum said that there's a script that Lucas, Spielberg and Ford are all excited about.
2000*
Spielberg: "George and I had put a couple of ideas into the works, we had toyed around with a couple of conceptual notions, but we really hadn't thrown ourselves body and soul into the process."
Ford: "The three of us never agreed on one of the notions that were advanced over the years."
Lucas: "They said, can't we do it with Nazis hiding in Argentina?"
Lucas: "They said, can't we do it with a different McGuffin? Can't we do this?" and I said "No". So we pottered around with that for a couple of years.”
2002*
Lucas: "Then Harrison really wanted to do it and Steve said, "Okay". I said, "We'll have to go back to that original MacGuffin and take out the offending parts of it and we'll still use that area of the supernatural to deal with it."
2005
Lucas: “We've been through a number of scripts--six or eight scripts. Six scripts, two rewrites.”
2007
Lucas: “We’ve been through lots of different versions in the last 14 years that I’ve been working on the script, with five different writers.”
2008
Lucas: "There were six scripts written for that film and [Darabont's] was number four.”
Lucas: "In the beginning it was a daughter he didn't know about... David revisited the idea as a son."
Jeb Stuart; Jeffrey Boam; Frank Darabont; Jeff Nathanson; David Koepp. Who's the other?Lucas: "There were six scripts written for that film and [Darabont's] was number four.?
Dene said:Jeb Stuart; Jeffrey Boam; Frank Darabont; Jeff Nathanson; David Koepp. Who's the other?
TheMutt92 said:M. Night Shymalan I believe.
Lucas said six scripts, not six people. Before Nathanson and Koepp, he said "six scripts, two rewrites." This could mean "six scripts plus two rewrites" or "six scripts, two of which were rewrites." The latter is consistent with his other quotes. What defines a rewrite I'm not sure. Koepp alone wrote thirty drafts. There is no record of other writers. Shyamalan was never hired and doesn't work for free. So I suspect one of the five (probably Boam) turned in two competely different scripts, maybe even with different MacGuffins.Dene said:Jeb Stuart; Jeffrey Boam; Frank Darabont; Jeff Nathanson; David Koepp. Who's the other?