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Old 10-18-2007, 06:43 PM   #51
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"crossover between Harrison Ford and River Phoenix"


I never thought Phoenix looked at all like Ford. He did a good job on Ford's mannerisms, but I never thought looking at him that he would grow up to be Ford's Indy. Also his hair was annoying as hell in that movie, and his continual playing with it was really distracting. The whole scene of him brushing it apart so he could see the lion, even irked me as a kid.

For that matter Sean Patrick Flannery never really looked much like Ford either.
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Old 10-18-2007, 06:46 PM   #52
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not more indy movies! i can't believe this lucas has got to stop he put his baby first with star wars. you can't have it both ways. harrison is too old and i don't want to see Shia Labeouf in any more movies. just look at how much the young indy chronicles sucked.
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Old 10-19-2007, 12:03 AM   #53
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Don't worry! "Indy IV" is the last Indy-Movie.
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Old 10-19-2007, 06:06 PM   #54
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This is my first post on theraider.net despite being a fan of the site for quite a few years reading posts since I first heard Indy 4 rumours, I am glad i will finally get off the mark with Indy 4 fast approaching. Now to my comment:

I am open minded on both sets of views in this thread but agree there should be no more Indy movies unless ford is in them, Spielberg is involved, and they are filmed as soon as possible. However, after thinking about it, while ford is essential for Indy he's not the only thing that makes me love the films. One of the other main reasons is the artefacts in the films (as they are associated with myths I have grown up with), how Indy learns and finds them, and the feeling after seeing the film of whether these myths are true and out there today (the kid in me is still there!).

Therefore I would be willing to give a "son of Indiana Jones" film a chance as long as:

1...There is no imitations, i.e. it doesn't have Shia (or whoever) trying to imitate ford with his mannerisms, clothing etc. The "son" would need to make the film(s) his own, with his own style, and if that gives us the same feelings as the ford films then great. It would need to have the same type of adventures. There could be a slight connection between them such as the Fedora for example.

2...It does not affect the previous films - If I watched a "son of Indiana" type film and it was rubbish then it wont affect my enjoyment of the ford films. I guess that the star wars prequels may slightly affect fans enjoyment of the star wars 4 to 6 films?


Before I go I just one to make a few of points that I believe:

1...As said before, no more Indy films without Ford in them. This will be a big disaster even with a great replacement. It just wouldn't feel right.

2...I suspect that there wont be any more Ford Indy films as I believe Spielberg among others will be on other projects but its nice to think that if Indy 4 is comparable to the previous films then Spielberg and Lucas have more scripts available since Crusade.

3...I recently watched the Transformers movie at the cinema, I liked it (despite some cheesy moments). I think Shias performance was pretty good and he had good "Indy" kind of moments in that film including various face expressions, and good comedy timing.

4...Any future "son" would need to have script writers, directors, producers, music writers etc, better than the current staff. The current staff are probably contracted to other projects in future so future staff would need to be exceptional. How do you replace Spielberg?

5...Can you imagine any of the Indy movies having that guy from the Mummy (Brendan Fraser) or any other film of the same genre playing the role? It would be nowhere the same as the Ford performance and any Indy 6 film would need Harrison.

Sorry for the outburst of opinions and long post, here's my first smiley for Indy 4, ,cant wait, and even if it sucks the series will still highly rate in my film watching experience.
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Old 10-19-2007, 06:13 PM   #55
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Great post Paulio. Welcome to the Raven!
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Old 10-21-2007, 02:22 PM   #56
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Thanks for the welcome. In my previous post I meant Indy 5, not Indy 6, obviously.
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Old 10-21-2007, 03:54 PM   #57
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Question

Actually, i have a question that needs answering. Who owns the rights for the indy series, Is it spielberg/lucas or paramount? Do paramount have the right to release more indy films (or directly ralated spin-offs) without the permission of spielberg/lucas and if not do spielberg/lucas only have rights for a certain amount of time?

The reason why im asking is that in many, many years time (say fifty years)would a film company be able to release new Indy films/ or re-make old Indy films?

Just a thought, but it makes me think that if spielberg/lucas refuse to make more films/spin-off films, the film company(s) can still bring it back in future.
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Old 10-21-2007, 04:12 PM   #58
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LucasFilm has the rights to the character, so without them there is no making Indy merchandise (fanwork apart, of course).

Paramount is the distributor. They simply sell the finished pieces around and then share the earnings with the company that holds the actual rights.

Simple, no?

Of course, all rights like this DO get old sometime, but that'll take more than our lifetime...
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Old 10-21-2007, 05:07 PM   #59
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Thanks Finn, that makes sense.

I would hope that if the original staff didnt do any more films/spin-offs then there wouldnt be any other film industry people who would do it to make a bit of sequel money!
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Old 10-24-2007, 05:37 PM   #60
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It's a nice thought but I find it impossible. If it took eighteen years to get to this point, I can't see them waiting eighteen WEEKS before filming the next one.

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Old 10-24-2007, 05:44 PM   #61
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harrison is indy

but the only guy who could play it again would be topher grace if he beefed up a bit
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Old 10-24-2007, 07:58 PM   #62
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Well, I've been mulling the idea of someone else playing Indiana Jones around in my for the past couple of days and, while I still maintain that Ford is Indy; that any futher sequels without Ford would be an abomination, let's suppose for a moment that there were absolutely deadset on doing it, and Harrison (for whatever reason) would not be returning... I think Ed Quinn wouldn't be too poor a choice. Certainly, they could do WORSE.

He's an okay actor, plus he even sort of resembles Ford:



And here's the most Indy-like one of all, which I've linked to for the sake of size.

I believe he could do a passable Indy. He was born in 1968, so he'd be about as old as Ford was during the first three films too. Ford was like, what, 38 in Raiders? Yeah.

In short, though I would hate to see another IJ movie without Harry, if I had to pick I'd choose Ed Quinn as his successor.
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Old 10-24-2007, 08:04 PM   #63
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but the only guy who could play it again would be topher grace if he beefed up a bit

I'm going to pretend I didn't read that.
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Old 10-24-2007, 08:09 PM   #64
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I'm going to pretend I didn't read that.
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Old 10-24-2007, 08:09 PM   #65
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Topher Grace? Salussolia, you've got to be kidding right?


ZiR, I never heard of Ed Quinn before. He kind of reminds me of Chris Cornell from Audioslave(formerly from Soundgarden). As for looks, he does have a bit of a Ford resemblance in the eyes and beard, but not so much the rest. He's also pretty damn tall. I looked him up on IMDB and he's listed at 6ft4. Indy wouldn't be much of an underdog anymore at that stature.


Hey Finn, how about Fillion? lol!!
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Old 10-24-2007, 08:29 PM   #66
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ZiR, I never heard of Ed Quinn before. He kind of reminds me of Chris Cornell from Audioslave(formerly from Soundgarden). As for looks, he does have a bit of a Ford resemblance in the eyes and beard, but not so much the rest. He's also pretty damn tall. I looked him up on IMDB and he's listed at 6ft4. Indy wouldn't be much of an underdog anymore at that stature.

Aw, nuts. I forgot about his height! He literally towers over the rest of the cast on Sci-Fi's Eureka. I do agree that Indy should be average-to-short. And yes, it's mostly the eyes and the beard that give him the Ford/IJ look, though looking like Ford isn't necessarily a prerequisite for the role-- simply a bonus.

Mmph. It's funny. I am actually a little upset by the fact that an actor who I thought would be good in a movie that probably will never exist (or even if it does come to pass, as if he'd really be given any consideration - they'd want a name), could be disqualified so easily for his height, of all things. And by funny, I mean horrendously pathetic. My God.
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Old 10-24-2007, 08:37 PM   #67
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Well don't be too discouraged yet, Tom selleck was almost Indy and he's nearly 6ft5!

As for Quinn, I'll have to check out Eureka or one of the other shows he's been on to see what you're talking about.

Some other guys who kind of have that similar rugged Indy look are James Tupper and Dylan Mcdermott. I agree the look is not really what counts, but most people picture Indy as a rugged everyman kind of guy.
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Old 12-12-2007, 02:40 PM   #68
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Mark my words, They will be 5 films with Harrison Ford as Indy. Speilberg, Lucas will fufill the contract they signed before Raiders. KOTCS will have a open ending.
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Old 12-12-2007, 02:55 PM   #69
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MartyB, I know how you feel. Fact is there will be nothing more with Indy. Frank Marshall has confirmed that Crystal Skull is it, and not Harrison, Shia, or anyone else will continue the franchise. Sorry bud.
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Old 12-12-2007, 06:01 PM   #70
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MartyB, I know how you feel. Fact is there will be nothing more with Indy. Frank Marshall has confirmed that Crystal Skull is it, and not Harrison, Shia, or anyone else will continue the franchise. Sorry bud.
Yup, that's the truth. I'm happy with just this one more sequel.
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Old 12-12-2007, 06:03 PM   #71
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Mark my words, They will be 5 films with Harrison Ford as Indy. Speilberg, Lucas will fufill the contract they signed before Raiders. KOTCS will have a open ending.

If you want to get technical, YIJC actually counts as the third sequel (prequel, whatever)... So KOTCS is the last one!
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Old 12-12-2007, 11:10 PM   #72
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If you want to get technical, YIJC actually counts as the third sequel (prequel, whatever)... So KOTCS is the last one!

Not with Paramount, Young Indy was completely Lucas Film, no Paramount involved. I don't think there will be another film. The number one reason is how difficult it was to get this one off the ground. The principles are very busy. Had they made a film 6 or 7 or 8 years ago, there may have been a good chance of an encore around now.
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Old 12-13-2007, 02:29 AM   #73
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It's not going to happen. Look how long it took Harry / Steve / Lucas to agree on a script. Plus Steve isn't the sort of Director whos going to leave some cliffhanger. My advice is enjoy the hell out of Indy 4 while you can and stop getting your hopes up with speculation about 5.

I could sooner see a T.V. show coming. Animated series like the clone wars anyone?
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Old 12-13-2007, 07:03 PM   #74
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I would only want another sequel if it had Harrison Ford in it, unless it was a prequel to his younger years, which i would assume they would cast someone else. As for an Indy 5, well i would love to see it happen, but who knows. We will only know for sure if there is any more possibility to the chance once Indy 4 comes out. However it ends, it will gives us the biggest answer to our Indy 5 speculation.

And besides, if Indy 5 was coming, it wouldn't be released in 2009, usually sequels come 2 years after the original, so your probably wrong about that much of it already . I can only hope that you aren't wrong about Indy 5...
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Old 12-13-2007, 08:13 PM   #75
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Not with Paramount, Young Indy was completely Lucas Film, no Paramount involved.

The re-edited Young Indy episodes have a Paramount logo in the opening, and the DVD boxes have the Paramount logo on them.
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