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Old 10-25-2015, 07:21 PM   #26
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Lookie here:
A man obviously in his late 60s easily bests a younger and fitter opponent in a fist fight - in real life (warning profanity):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w-MwmFs8e8

If it can happen in real life, can happen in an Indy movie.
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Old 10-26-2015, 11:41 AM   #27
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The idea that once a man hits a certain age he shouldn't play certain roles is just stupid ageism.
Steady on: we are here to express opinions, and I expressed mine quite clearly: that's not the type of movie I want to see.

You are free to disagree of course, but there's no need to be offensive.
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Harrison doesn't look like a man in his 70s. Slap a little make up on him and he can pass for a 60 year old.
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Old 10-26-2015, 01:51 PM   #28
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Okay, let me phrase it clearer:
Too bad you didn't make yourself clear when starting this thread. It should've been titled: "Did anyone wish there was more action WITH INDY FRONT & CENTRE?". That way, people wouldn't have disagreed about an absence of action scenes.
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None of those scenes were ones with Indy front and center. I don't go to an Indy film to watch Mutt kick ass....In one of the car chases, Indy is being passed back and forth between cars and being driven on a bike by Mutt, and it's played kind of for laughs. In another (the first chase), you get the stupid "You don't know him, you don't know him" bit which ruins it. In the Jungle chase, Mutt is driving the action.

When I'm talking car chases, I'm talking ones which have high energy and where Indy is front and center...
None? In the warehouse, Indy was alone against a whole bunch of people (and the fight involved a car chase). How was he NOT front & centre during that sequence?
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There is no scene in Indy 4, in terms of action, in which Harrison is front and center. Even the Dovchenko fight, while it's the first one Indy wins fair and square, lacks the energy level of a scene like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q720Fe7IDMk
Harrison/Indy was front & centre in the 1st fight with Dovchenko and he was losing. A very energetic scene where Indy was saved only by the Russian thug passing out from the G-forces of the rocket sled. You can't say, "no scene" because it isn't true.
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Old 10-27-2015, 08:11 AM   #29
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You make a good point, but IMO the limitations imposed by an old character/actor are simply too big to overcome with a smart script.

And what I'm telling you is, you're wrong.
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Old 10-27-2015, 11:58 AM   #30
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And what I'm telling you is, you're wrong.
Nope, I already conceded that purely from a screenwriting perspective, you are correct.

However, my point is: who wants to see that type of movie, apart from a few hard core Ford fetishists who post here?

So my bet is, Disney will recast the character with a younger actor.

I also believe that, if offered a bookend role in Indy 5, Ford would accept (as long as it's a meaningful role and not just a cameo).
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Old 10-27-2015, 01:16 PM   #31
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Much has been written about the GODFATHER PART II approach, and I think it'd work really well. But I certainly would not relegate Harrison to book-ends, and if anything would have the ratio heavily favor the "Michael Corleone" plot, as it were.
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Old 10-27-2015, 02:15 PM   #32
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Much has been written about the GODFATHER PART II approach, and I think it'd work really well. But I certainly would not relegate Harrison to book-ends, and if anything would have the ratio heavily favor the "Michael Corleone" plot, as it were.
Sure: part prequel/part sequel could definitely work for Indy 5.

It would also be the best way for Ford to hand over the main role to a younger actor for subsequent prequels.

The only aspect we disagree on is the ratio.
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