00Kevin
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Very cool! Glad to hear this
for more, check out The Indy Experience:
http://www.theindyexperience.com/september_2003.shtml#0000075
Marshall says Very Little CGI and computer effects
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Very cool! Glad to hear this
for more, check out The Indy Experience:
http://www.theindyexperience.com/september_2003.shtml#0000075
Adventurer
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The scene in question is the "Donovan destruction sequence". A digital optical effect, maybe.
Indy's brother
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Wow. Look at the thread starter.
Swing and a miss, Frank.
Swing and a miss, Frank.
Montana Smith
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AlivePoet said:Nice to see that Indy 4 discussion is alive and well...7 years later.
It's life, Jim, but not as we know it.
Cole
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Technically speaking......they could've gone much further with the CGI.Indy's brother said:
If you take away background enhancements, there's very little CGI.
Just about all the sets are physical, and just about all the action is still physical.
And personally, I don't know when it was a sin just to use CGI. I feel like I'm using a dirty word or something when I type "CGI."
The use of modern effects is something that I actually enjoy about 'Crystal Skull,' because the ants scene for example, is something I really enjoyed and you couldn't do it like they did it 10-20 years ago. The realism is simply astounding.
If we started seeing digital Indy's or something, then I think they would have crossed the line because the series does have a reputation regarding its physical stunts........but they didn't do that. All the other Indy movies still employed the use of special effects, so why should they have prohibited the use of modern special effects? Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.
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Cole said:
As much as I hate quoting wikipedia, I'm too lazy to search for, find, and cite a separate source
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Would they have initially stated their use of cgi instead of ramping up my expectations for an old-school Indy adventure complete with old-school effects, it would not have felt like a broken promise (which it was).
As for your other comments, I whole heartedly agree with you about the ants, I have zero issue with that. Also, the flying boulders around the ufo was fine with me. Perhaps if Mutt got hit in the groin with REAL plants it might have sat better with me...
And of course digital Dr. Jones's would have been really crossing the line, and I'm glad that didn't happen.
But my position remains as it always has on this subject: If they were going to rely on cgi, they should have either been forthright about it, or never brought it up how they were going to do the effects at all.
Darth Vile
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Indy's brother said:As much as I hate quoting wikipedia, I'm too lazy to search for, find, and cite a separate source
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Would they have initially stated their use of cgi instead of ramping up my expectations for an old-school Indy adventure complete with old-school effects, it would not have felt like a broken promise (which it was).
As for your other comments, I whole heartedly agree with you about the ants, I have zero issue with that. Also, the flying boulders around the ufo was fine with me. Perhaps if Mutt got hit in the groin with REAL plants it might have sat better with me...
And of course digital Dr. Jones's would have been really crossing the line, and I'm glad that didn't happen.
But my position remains as it always has on this subject: If they were going to rely on cgi, they should have either been forthright about it, or never brought it up how they were going to do the effects at all.
What I'd say is that... 1) Most of the CGI contained in KOTCS seems to be in keeping with the visual effects of the originals (to me anyway), sans the usual suspects e.g. flying fridges, vine swings and monkeys (which are more a result of bad ideas than bad use of effects). Also, the vistas of Akator, impossible shots etc. is exactly where I wanted to see new technology deployed in a new Indy movie... and scenes like the 'waterfall' seem to contain a similar mix of practical/effects shots as the mine cart chase or Zeppelin escape scenes (like them or loathe them).
2) I agree that whilst Spielberg in his head may have been thinking about all the practical sets/effects that KOTCS would still consist of, in terms of setting expectations, he should have played it down rather than big it up.
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Indy's brother
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They're reporting on an unsubstantiated pre-KOTCS-release rumor. It's never been proven that this was ever on the table. I remember it too.
Darth Vile
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Stoo said:Just saw a brief piece about "Crystal Skull" on a filler program called "Stars On". It said that the film makers wanted Indy's whip to be CG but Harrison said, "No".
Anyone else hear of this before?
I have heard that one before... and to be frank, the limited whip action seen in KOTCS could have easily been achieved via CGI (as it's only those 2 quick shots in the warehouse isn't it?).
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IMDB said:
Gotta love when filmmakers break the rules.
Though its a shame safety rules are probably the reason Indy's whip scene at the graveyard was cut. I guess it'll be the same story for Indy 5 if it gets made.