The Professor
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It's the same thing that political candidates do before debates - lower expectations. That way, our (likely) unreasonable expectations will be lowered before viewing the movie.
DoomsdayFAN said:Well, why did it take Lucas and Spielberg SOOOO long to come up with the script they wanted? Why did they keep throwing it back to the drawing board?
No Ticket said:1.) It's too political.
No Ticket said:2.) Nobody really wanted to see anything in the prequels up until ROTS. All anyone ever really wanted was to see Anakin fight Obi-wan and get fried. We all knew that was coming. We just wanted to see that.
No Ticket said:3.) There was no huge empire or struggle between good and evil.. no galactic war, etc.
No Ticket said:4.) There was not a character like Han Solo.
Adamwankenobi said:That reminds me of something Lucas says on his ROTS DVD commentary. He says something along the lines of "Our society likes to avoid politics because they think it is too complicated. Because of that, they elect leaders who promise to clean things up for them. And these leaders in turn often take advantage of the general public's ignorance of politics."
Basically, the prequels were meant in a way to comment on how insane it is that people don't like to pay attention to politics.
Then most fans must have not been interested in a good story.
It is a much more sophisticated than that. Palpatine is the puppet master of the "good" and "bad" sides of the Clone Wars. He plays each of them to get what he wants, and because of this, by the end of the prequels, everyone in the Republic is screwed except for Palpatine. It's a much more interesting story because of that IMO.
Had there been a character like that in the prequels, fans would have cried "Han Solo rip-off! Luca$ is just selling out and rehashing old ideas!"
No Ticket said:and I don't care what you say, in the end, most of what I heard was just that everyone wanted to see "darth vader" in the prequels.
Indyologist said:Why any warning? How about because you just can't please everyone. There will be things in KC that fans won't like that they think should not have been there as sure as there will be things fans wish had been included. It will not be the perfect movie.
As they say, you can please some of the people some of the time, but you can't please all of the people all of the time. That's just the way it goes. The film is what it is, no more, no less. Disappointment can be the ultimate price for speculation. We're all just going to have to see the film and make our peace with it. In the end, just be grateful that another Indy film was made and that it'll most likely be fantastic like the other chapters in the Trilogy. That's it in a nutshell.
Adamwankenobi said:I don't doubt that. But what fans don't seem to realize is that the prequels were not designed to be about Darth Vader. They are designed to be about Anakin Skywalker's life, his steps toward the dark side, and the downfall of the Republic. It all sets up the original films, in which Vader does play a major role.
Finn said:Two sides of a same coin, more likely. Unless you were expecting a turdpile to begin with...
Vlad Dracula said:In kind of the same vein, I don't think people had any kind of preconceived notions or unrealistically high expectations about Willow or Howard the Duck. They just weren't very good movies.
No doubt there were many people that had overly high expectations for the SW prequels. They were expecting Lucas at his best and instead got another Willow level movie instead of a Raiders or Empire level one.
I'm personally not terribly worried Crystal Skull will turn out to be another Willow, Phantom Menace or even worse another Howard the Duck. For one thing, unlike the SW prequels, CK like the original Indy movies is collaborative effort with Ford and Spielberg. Plus I’m guessing Lucas himself probably wants to prove he’s still got to his peers and fans.
Matinee Idyll said:Nothing dissapointed me more than we I was a 12 year old and saw Phantom Menace, yet I was supposed to be the freakin' target audience! - stumbling out of the cinema, wondering how on earth that cinematic trainwreck came into being. Even at that young age, my bullshît censors were working overdrive.
Vlad Dracula said:They were expecting Lucas at his best and instead got another Willow level movie instead of a Raiders or Empire level one.
Actually I think a lot of people had high expectations for "Howard The Duck". The comic had been at least a cult hit (i'm not sure but I think it was a hit with the general comic reading audience as well) and when it was revealed that Lucas was doing the film adaption a lot of people were really pleased !Vlad Dracula said:In kind of the same vein, I don't think people had any kind of preconceived notions or unrealistically high expectations about Willow or Howard the Duck. They just weren't very good movies.
No doubt there were many people that had overly high expectations for the SW prequels. They were expecting Lucas at his best and instead got another Willow level movie instead of a Raiders or Empire level one.
I'm personally not terribly worried Crystal Skull will turn out to be another Willow, Phantom Menace or even worse another Howard the Duck. For one thing, unlike the SW prequels, CK like the original Indy movies is collaborative effort with Ford and Spielberg. Plus I?m guessing Lucas himself probably wants to prove he?s still got to his peers and fans.
DoomsdayFAN said:Why does Spielberg and Lucas warn that we will be DISSAPOINTED with Indy IV???
No Ticket said:Every time somebody says McMuffin, it makes me hungry.