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Old 10-17-2016, 03:16 PM   #26
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I don't care if they use a lot of CG effects (and they will), as long as they look real and tangible. What I don't wanna see again is obvious CG creatures like the swinging monkeys and that squinting alien. Other than that, they can do whatever they want, but the action should feel dangerous and perilous, when the heroes get hurt, I wanna be able to root for them. Don't look for a joke in everyone and everything.

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Old 10-18-2016, 10:31 PM   #27
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TFA had a ton of CGI. And I thought the score was a lot less epic than KOTCS. I think TFA had maybe one or two memorable themes...KOTCS had at least 3 memorable themes IMO.

I just meant TFA captured to the look of the OT a lot better than the Prequels did. The prequels looked nothing like the OT.

For the record, I hated TFA.
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Old 06-13-2017, 07:56 AM   #28
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Do Just make a great Indiana Jones film
Don't Screw it up
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Old 06-13-2017, 10:23 AM   #29
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Do: Make a great Indiana Jones film with Harrison Ford in the lead role. Make it great and exciting.

Don't: Have Harrison in a minor or supporting role. Do not diminish his character.

To summarize, we want another amazing Harrison Ford Indiana Jones film.
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Old 06-13-2017, 12:38 PM   #30
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DON'T: expect anything remotely on a par with the original trilogy - with old Indy it just isn't possible for me.

DO: go watch it anyway...
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Old 06-20-2017, 10:31 AM   #31
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A lot of you made good points.

In addition,

-Do

make the villains more intimidating and formidable.

-Don't

ruin the intensity of an action scene (such as the monkeys part in KotCS).
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Old 06-20-2017, 11:22 PM   #32
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Well , the definite Don't would be don't listen to anymore of Lucas's ideas.
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Old 06-30-2017, 03:29 AM   #33
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Set Indy 5 in South East Asia - Cambodia, Vietnam, Loas area in the 1960's.
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Old 06-30-2017, 07:31 AM   #34
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Do: Have Harrison in 50% or more of the film.

Don't: Cast Chris Pratt.
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Old 06-30-2017, 07:49 AM   #35
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Marion

I have an idea which could bring the series back to its roots:
The government, circa 1967, learns of a foreign power or private body, interested in getting an artifact to dominate the world. It's an artifact Indy went after years ago. Maybe it's been stolen from a museum or government archive. Or maybe Indy is the only one who came close to finding it.

The CIA/FBI visits Indy at home. Marion cameos, Mutt is said to be off at college or in the army.

The government guys lay out the danger. Indy resists at first, "I'm retired." They remind him of his patriotic duty. "To hell with that old song."
Marion, later, convinces him to go. One last ride. He calls up the government guys. "I'm in."

Cue a scene which pays homage to the early Bond films. Indy is offered an array of gadgets to bring with him. Doesn't need them. Basically, all he needs is his hat, whip and gun.

Government drops him off by plane to where he has to go. South East Asia.

The movie would at points incorporate flash backs to Indy's first attempt at getting the artifact as a way of introducing a new actor. Example Indy is stumped at some booby trap. He flashes back to the 1920s, at this same juncture. The flashback helps him figure out the solution in the present day.

In another touch to early Bond, the villain is an independent bad guy. An industrialist ala Goldfinger. At the briefing scene, a nod to KOTCS coul come in the form of the government saying "We don't know who he's with, but we knows it's not the Russians." Indy: "Thank God."

Just some ideas.
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Old 07-01-2017, 04:47 AM   #36
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that could work, also with Mutt (as he would be 20+ by now) in the Army at the height of the Vietnam war there could be a side story running where Indy and Mutt meet up, help each other out, join forces etc etc
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Old 07-04-2017, 02:07 PM   #37
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The only way I could see Mutt joining the Army is to be closer to his father who's leaving yet again. Otherwise, he seems too much of a rebel to want to fight in Vietnam. Sure, he's aged but not very reflective of youth during that time.
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Old 07-04-2017, 02:30 PM   #38
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The only way I could see Mutt joining the Army is to be closer to his father who's leaving yet again. Otherwise, he seems too much of a rebel to want to fight in Vietnam. Sure, he's aged but not very reflective of youth during that time.

There is The Draft.
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Old 07-04-2017, 08:41 PM   #39
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There is The Draft.

I take him as a draft dodger
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Old 07-05-2017, 12:18 AM   #40
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The only way I could see Mutt joining the Army is to be closer to his father who's leaving yet again. Otherwise, he seems too much of a rebel to want to fight in Vietnam. Sure, he's aged but not very reflective of youth during that time.
I take him as a draft dodger
And he moved to Canada or Mexico.
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Old 07-05-2017, 12:03 PM   #41
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Mutt would be too old for most of the Vietnam draft, assuming he's 18 or 19 in 1957. Plus he's of means and education.
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Old 07-05-2017, 12:36 PM   #42
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Maybe they could just say he was MIA or KIA in Vietnam.
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Old 04-06-2018, 11:04 PM   #43
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DO:
-Have the opening adventure not be tied to the main plot. KOTCS broke away from this cornerstone of the films, but it's a cool device that goes back to James Bond. Let's start off the film at the end of another of Indy's adventures

-Don't go out of the way to bash KOTCS.

-Have gunplay, have whip play. We haven't had a good shootout since TOD. Since Harrison/Indy is older, he can use his gun and whip more than his fists

-Make Indy an even dirtier fighter than in his youth. He's more clever as an older man. He can use things to his advantage younger stronger fighters might not.

-Give Indy a younger assistant, preferably female. Indy is best when paired with a woman.

-Have at best three scenes set in the US. Have the rest of the film take place someplace Indy hasn't gone yet. Africa? Vietnam? Ireland? Scotland (after all his dad was a Scot)

-Let Harrison have at least 50%-60% of the screentime

-Let Harrison be an active adventurer in this film. Don't make it where he is retired and reluctant to go out into the field.

-Use practical effects as much as possible

-Try to emulate the look of the first three films as much as possible.

DON'T:

-Mention the 1960s too much

-Don't make the film political. Given we'll be in the late 60s, this might be hard to resist.

-Don't make the female assistant outdo Indy or know more than him or take the spotlight away from him in the action department. Show her as intelligent and like Indy, but at the same time, not outshining him. Don't put feminism in an Indy film

-Use any sci-fi elements

-Don't use Russians again

-Don't make jokes about Indy's age. Preferably don't mention it, but if the film does, do it in a mature way, don't make him look like a doddering old fool.

-Keep mention of Hippies and/or 60s counterculture to a VERY bare minimum

-DO NOT refer to Indy as "Henry Jones, Jr." Ever. At all.

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Old 04-07-2018, 04:27 AM   #44
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Have the opening adventure not be tied to the main plot. KOTCS broke away from this cornerstone of the films, but it's a cool device that goes back to James Bond.

To be fair many James Bond PTSs are tied to the film's main plot, with few exceptions (arguably Octopus*y's PTS is the only one with absolutely no ties to the main plot). But I agree with your point.

EDIT: Lol, I can't believe the movie title is censored!
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Old 04-07-2018, 06:16 PM   #45
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Do bring back this:


and this:


and this:


and so much less of this:

That's kind of an unfair comparison. KOTCS had a lot of interesting silhouette shots.
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Old 04-07-2018, 06:18 PM   #46
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Do: Have Indy shoot and kill someone.

The only person he shoots in KOTCS is that Russian who got shot in the foot, 10 minutes in. I believe the only person he kills is that guy with the poison dart. A movie with absolutely no grit needs to be redeemed with part 5.
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Old 04-07-2018, 07:03 PM   #47
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Don't put feminism in an Indy film

I think you're forgetting how unique and impressive of a character Marion was in Raiders. To suggest that there was nothing feminist about her introductory scene in a 1981 film is crazy...

Which is why ToD was such a massive step backward with Willie. But we all know why that was...
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Old 04-07-2018, 07:21 PM   #48
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I will go to bat for Willie. At least she has an actual arc, while Marion is just her spunky self the whole way through. And while The Spoiled Rotten Star may be a cliche, It's not like The Spitfire Old Flame is any less of one. The dimension of these characters is in the performances.

And for the record, Marion gets kidnapped more than Willie.
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Old 04-07-2018, 07:48 PM   #49
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I think you're forgetting how unique and impressive of a character Marion was in Raiders. To suggest that there was nothing feminist about her introductory scene in a 1981 film is crazy...

Which is why ToD was such a massive step backward with Willie. But we all know why that was...

Okay, I'll clarify: Don't put crazy third wave feminism in the film where Indy looks like a doddering idiot compared to his sidekick who knows everything and can do everything better than he ever could because she's a female. Basically, don't put a Rey or Rey-like character in the film. Don't have Indy lectured by said female sidekick about changing times. Don't belittle the character.
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Old 04-07-2018, 07:51 PM   #50
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To be fair many James Bond PTSs are tied to the film's main plot, with few exceptions (arguably Octopus*y's PTS is the only one with absolutely no ties to the main plot). But I agree with your point.

EDIT: Lol, I can't believe the movie title is censored!

Goldfinger? The pre-title sequence to that one is about Bond stopping a heroin smuggling ring in Latin America. The only bridge between the two stories is that Bond is then sent on holiday to Miami.

In Indy though:

Raiders - pre-adventure is about golden idol. Connection to main story is Belloq.

TOD - Pre-adventure is about the Peacock's Eye diamond. Connection to main story is Willie and Shortround

LC - Pre-adventure is about Indy first discovering the Cross of Coronado in 1912, then finally recovering it in 1938. No connection to main story except for a cameo by an unseen Henry Sr.

KOTCS breaks with this in that we don't even SEE the pre-adventure, it's only mentioned. It feels off.
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