Pale Horse said:
I'll never reconcile them as viable in today's world...
I would like to be supportive, Pale, I really would but...
Of course you won't get it until you at least see
The First Avenger, but for somebody who rather slavishly follows Lucas' Space Opera, I find the above statement and the one about the fanciful merging with reality to be rather incongruous. Last time I checked humans didn't pal around with 7-foot tall furries or have meaningful conversations with obese slugs. Yet, I don't recall a single instance of Ford or Hamill elbowing each other in the ribs and/or winking at the camera.
What it sounds like you're saying:
I can't accept any 'comic book' movie that takes itself seriously, because I just know that meta-humans can't exist, even extremely low level ones like Captain America.
Before somebody raises the '
but, it's science fiction' argument, the vast majority of comics fall under the science fiction banner as well. The truly fantastical and horror aspects of the Marvel Universe have not yet been mined for popular consumption. Just wait until they get into the likes of, say,
The Hands of Shang Chi!
That said, I am fairly surprised that you haven't even taken the opportunity to see
The First Avenger. Cap's origins are rooted fairly strongly in the pulp adventures of yore; it takes place in a time period near and dear to several members' heart; and the ever popular Joe Johnston is in fine form. If he doesn't get another shot at
The Rocketeer, Disney should let him take a crack at Dr. Jones.
Spectre said:
(Spoiler Alert--stop here)
The Winter Soldier story arc was a great choice, too. It will tie up "loose ends" from The First Avenger!!!
If I were to put together a list of one of the worst trends enabled by the 'net, the idea of "spoilers" and the people who actively seek them out and report on them would be right near the top. The obsessive need to track every aspect of a movie's development is weird. So, while I can't force you to refrain from further, ah, reporting, it would be appreciated if you refrained from further comment (even though Kevin Fiege has said the same thing a million times) lest you inadvertently let something slip. Some thing should be left as a surprise until the houselights go down.
kongisking said:
And I know, thanks to the horrible secret-keeping skills of the Internet, the Soldier's' identity. I've been aware of that storyline for some time, and I hear it's a really excellent tale (never read it, but hope to when they release the inevitable tie-in trade paperback collection of the story arc), so hopefully the adaptation keeps that quality.
I'm truly sorry for that then. It would have been a great moment. And, yes, the story-arc is excellent. Ed Brubaker is a top flight writer. If you head
over here, however, I'm sure you'll find a copy on the store shelf. It's been out for a few years now.
For everybody else, if the link is anyway related to Captain America, avoid it entirely. It can be done!
kongisking said:
Hopes are high for the Winter Soldier to be as badass a foe as he comes across in these previews...
For its very impressive collection of heroes, Marvel is something of a let down in the villain department. Outside of the Wallcrawler's gallery of rogues, very few make much of a lasting impression. I have no doubt that The Winter Soldier will be as capable as he's been portrayed as in the trailers, but it's important for Cap's development. A hero is only as good as his nemesis his.
Joe Brady said:
Granted, it would have been nice to use the Howling Commandos to tell an actual WWII Inglorious Bastards tale but, heh, even Tarantino couldn't deliver one
They'll be back if this Agent Carter series has legs, but the two problems are: 1.) The Howling Commandos have always been associated with Nick Fury* and 2.) Nazi-smashing isn't exactly a family affair, and people will stay away in droves. Plus, it's a rather small aspect of the universe's history.
* - I don't think Marvel Entertainment has quite decided on this Nick Fury's origins outside of a M or C-like character. The Winter Soldier might touch on this, but I wouldn't count on it. His inclusion might have reached its limit depending on which direction they're going.
Godzillaisking said:
Cap remains my favorite Marvel hero
If I were to make the proverbial Top 10 list, Captain America wouldn't be on it. As the beating heart and moral center of the Marvel Universe, however, I have a great respect for the character. There's a lot of great stories that could be told through him, but the movie(s) have really captured his nature as a Man Out of Time.
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