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View Poll Results: How much 'till we're done?
NOOOO! After KOTCS, I AM done! 10 8.26%
Indy 5, But no more after that. 45 37.19%
2nd Trilogy Baby! Bring it ON! 61 50.41%
Huh? Where are my pants? What year is this? 5 4.13%
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Old 05-25-2010, 03:42 AM   #26
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Hahaha, those pictures are hilarious, Montana.

I would prefer that they stop after Indy 5. IMO, Lucas already ruined the second Star Wars trilogy, I would hate to see him do the same thing to Indiana Jones if they did a second trilogy. Particularly if Mutt takes a more prominent role in Indy 5.

That's the dilemma that I'm currently struggling with here:

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Old 05-25-2010, 07:49 PM   #27
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I'd love to see a high-quality revamp of Indy, whether on TV or the big screen, and preferably without Ford.
There have already been four incarnations of Indiana Jones, so no one can say Ford is the only Indiana Jones. In fact, Sean Patrick Flannery played Indy much longer than Ford ever did.
I think there's still a lot more to tell about Indy, and the fact that he's a larger-than-life legend, makes it that much easier to continue chronicling his adventures.
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Old 06-04-2010, 01:24 AM   #28
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The rumor is that there were supposed to be five films from the begining and thats what I think they should do. Ford is getting old but he has enough left in him for one more and it would make KOTCS seem less out of place, two older Indy movies instead of one.
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Old 06-06-2010, 09:14 PM   #29
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I say it bring on a new trilliogy.
However, Ford is getting older. I don't know how much more he can hanndle.
Maybe, have him do a little less with Shia's character doing more and more each film..
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Old 06-07-2010, 01:51 AM   #30
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I say it bring on a new trilliogy.
However, Ford is getting older. I don't know how much more he can hanndle.
Maybe, have him do a little less with Shia's character doing more and more each film..

From your handle it's obvious you're a 'Mutt Jones Fan', so you're going to be happy to see Shia take more of an active role in a new trilogy.

That's something I can't get into my head, and equate with Indiana Jones.

As a character Mutt didn't strike me as a great result, so to see him eventually become the dominant force in an Indy movie is inconsistent with my view of Indiana Jones.

I know it's a Catch-22 situation of age versus action, but given the choice (as an absolute last resort), I would rather see a reboot of Indy himself with a new actor (), than for the series to continue chronologically with the 'son of Indy'. The true son of Indy is the 1960s James Bond (Sean Connery, who was the father of Indy! )
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Old 06-08-2010, 03:21 AM   #31
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If the Music Room Indy V reveal is to be believed...

http://www.musicrooms.net/showbiz/86...Emotional.html

The reveal, in it's entirety, is written in a strange way, and even puts the release date of KOTCS as 2006.

But, for a moment, let's assume that it is from a legitimate source.

The two key points are "an emtional and exciting conclusion" and "Shia LaBeouf has a central role again as Indy's son".

It implies in no uncertain terms that this will be Harrison's last outing as Indy. It implies that Mutt is a central character.

With regard to the question "Continue with the series?" it indicates that a Mutt franchise may be on the cards.

I can't really see Indy discovering a fountain of youth and regenerating as a younger man/different actor in the 1960s as this would tread on Bond's toes, which is really what a Mutt franchise would be also doing.

The only viable alternative, as hard as it is to imagine, is for a new actor to go back and continue the story from the 1930s again.
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Old 07-15-2010, 10:02 PM   #32
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i say a second triology. also a Mutt spinoff, and some pre-raiders movies with a new actor playing Indiana Jones.
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Old 07-16-2010, 11:24 AM   #33
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I thought KOTCS was terrible, but I'd rather have half a dozen more terrible Indy movies than nothing. As long as HF was starring as Indy. But I'd probably watch the Adventures of Mutt Jones, too, though it would be like watching YIJC.
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Old 07-16-2010, 12:30 PM   #34
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Here's a better idea than continuing with Mutt: Set it in modern times and have some entirely new character (maybe Mutt's son or nephew or something) discover Indiana Jones' hat, whip, etc. in a chest in an attic or a museum storeroom (where he works). He asks the now grandfatherly Mutt what all this is. Mutt tells him the tale of "the great man" and this inspires the new character to take up the hat and whip and seek adventures himself. This guy could posses an intangible that is very important -- he's us. For example, I think one of the reasons the X-Files was so successful its first few seasons was that Mulder was a sort of stand-in for all of us who knew something was out there. He was speaking for us. In a modern-day Indy tale, this new guy could be a surrogate or reflection of all us fans who'd gladly take up the hat and whip ourselves. There'd be a stronger connection to the character. The big problem with Mutt, in spite of Shia's good performance, is that he's Lucas' surrogate, he's Lucas' reflection, not our own. Sort of how when M-chlorians became The Force. It was taken away from what we felt it meant to us and Lucas made it his own own own. Sure, he has the right to do that, but we're talking about what makes a magical movie, and part of the recipie for magic is to give the audience a character they can ALL connect to.

So, if someone new discovered Indy's legacy he could pick up the hat and whip and even the name. After all, "Indiana" was a nickname chosen by Indy, so someone new could just pick the same name. Jones would logically be his last name if he was related to Mutt, so there ya go!
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Old 08-15-2010, 06:20 PM   #35
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As of now, this poll shows that a 2nd trilogy is winning by what could become a landslide! ...and apparently one Ravener has slipped too far into dementia to have an opinion on the matter.

If you haven't already, vote in this poll! Spielberg once mentioned that it's up to us fans as to whether or not they make more Indy movies....let 'em know where you stand on the subject!!!
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Old 08-15-2010, 10:06 PM   #36
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I'm up for two more to make it a 2nd trilogy. If they wanted to do something different, do a big adventure that spans 2 movies - like Deathly Hallows.
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Old 08-16-2010, 05:55 PM   #37
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However, Ford is getting older. I don't know how much more he can hanndle.

This.
I say Indy 5, but no more than that. I don't want the movies to be taken over by Mutt, but that seems to be what George Lucas brought him in for…D:
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Old 08-16-2010, 07:00 PM   #38
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IIRC, I read somewhere that when Lucas and Spielberg made a contract for Paramount to distribute the films many years ago, it was 5 films. It eventually became 3 films though with a 4th film in production hell for years. Now that it finally got made, I would like to see the original deal complete and have one more film adventure with Harrison with the fedora.

Frankly, I think they closed up the franchise a little too much with the fourth film. There isn't as much potential as there was with the fourth film. But I think there's still enough for a great end, at least one as satisfying as Revenge of the Sith was to Star Wars. It'd be a shame to end the franchise with the many nay-sayers.

C'mon Lucas and Steven, finish the script by December and film next year.
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Old 08-16-2010, 08:27 PM   #39
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I would like to see Harrison featured in future Indy movies...but concentrate on him...the supporting cast is ok...but he really is the magic.

Knowing the film industry...they will bring someone else in to play the part and ruin the series.
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Old 08-27-2010, 01:50 AM   #40
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From my point of view KOTCS was good enough that it sparked my interest in seeing Indiana Jones 5 being made, I personally think it was better than TOD. However KOTCS wasn't so good that I felt that's it, Indy has just ended on a high note and no more should be made. So KOTCS being a less than perfect movie is exactly what is fueling my enthusiasm for a true Indy finale and thus the bar has been raised high in my mind for Indy 5.

I feel Indy 5 should be the final chapter because of Harrison Ford's age in addition to the fact that "five" movies was the contract with Paramount before even ROTLA was released so its a good psychological point to end. Also it seems the trend has been that the odd numbered Indy films (ROTLA, LC) are better regarded than the even numbered ones (TOD, KOTCS), so Indy 5 is bound to be in the former category. KOTCS was just another middle chapter of the series with the finale still to come in Indy5.

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Old 10-20-2010, 11:18 PM   #41
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I would like to see Harrison featured in future Indy movies...but concentrate on him...the supporting cast is ok...but he really is the magic.

Amen to that.
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Old 10-22-2010, 07:32 PM   #42
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y'know, i am ready for an Indy 5, but i wouldnt want anything more after that simply because Harrison Ford is and always will be Indiana Jones, and you cant find any replacement that would be half as good as Ford. if you continue the movies, eventually Ford wont be able to play him unfortunetly so you'd have to find a replacement, which is not cool. so i think Indy 5, but no more than that. besides, all the good ideas for artifacts are already in the books, movies, comics, etc. so coming up with a new idea would be very difficult. who agrees with me??
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Old 10-23-2010, 06:55 AM   #43
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y'know, i am ready for an Indy 5, but i wouldnt want anything more after that simply because Harrison Ford is and always will be Indiana Jones, and you cant find any replacement that would be half as good as Ford. if you continue the movies, eventually Ford wont be able to play him unfortunetly so you'd have to find a replacement, which is not cool. so i think Indy 5, but no more than that. besides, all the good ideas for artifacts are already in the books, movies, comics, etc. so coming up with a new idea would be very difficult. who agrees with me??

I agree with you completly and as I and a number of others have already mentioned Indy5 is a very good film to stop at because of the original contract with Paramount for five films. That's what I heard years and years ago, five films, just a few years ago I felt so happy that the fourth one was being made that I didn't think about another one but as soon as KOTCS came out I was enthused for one more. Also to end the slippery sequel slope of "just one more" and after that "just one more" in order to stop the quality from going downhill they should advertise Indy5 as the final chapter of what was always supposed to be five movies. It's just that in 1980 I don't think they envisioned five films would take them into the 21st century much less the second decade of the 21st Century.
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Old 10-26-2010, 12:57 PM   #44
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I would like to see Harrison featured in future Indy movies... but concentrate on him... the supporting cast is ok... but he really is the magic.
Knowing the film industry... they will bring someone else in to play the part and ruin the series.
Hopefully not, regarding ruining the series, but I don't think focusing on Indy/Harrison is the way to go.

Indy has always had a 'mission' of sorts--the Ark of the Covenant (keep it from the Nazis), the Sankara stones (accidental, but necessary), the Grail (again, Nazis), the Crystal Skull: the Russians this time, but do you really want them to get some kind of weird@$$ relic that behaves oddly? (see the Russian jungle camp scene) And he's never alone on these missions: Sallah and Marion in 'Ark', Short Round and Willie in 'Temple', Sallah, Marcus, and his father in 'Grail', Mutt, Oxley, and Marion again in 'Skull'.

If Marion is married to Indy now, who is Oxley's housekeeper? He strikes me as the stereotypic 'absent-minded professor' type. I think it would be cool to have him wig out again, speaking another dead pre-Columbian native language (maybe during a course lecture that Mutt is taking).

My concern is not focusing on Indy and his "family"; it's finding a good "Mcguffin" to start the adventure. I mentioned in another post Machu Pichu and the lost city of Z. O'Connell and Evie have demolished the (Chinese) Emperor's tomb, and the comic books did Atlantis--but how about investigating Santorini as Atlantis, or what's at Tambora or Krakatoa? I know there has to have been something out there in the 1950s that had the veneer of "occult" that Indy could have de-mystified--I just don't know my archaeological history as well enough as I should. Suggestions, folks?

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Old 02-20-2011, 01:06 AM   #45
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Well, it's been several months, and several rumors have passed. The mood around here has shifted, and we've goten some new members, so here's a bump. Anyone else here care to vote/comment?
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Old 02-20-2011, 01:22 AM   #46
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I'd say round out the series with two more. It would be really fun to have a couple more Indy films. Any kind of TV spinoffs are of little to no interest to me. They can happen or not. BUT, if John Williams, Spielberg or Ford are not fully involved, then NO. Stop em right there.

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Old 02-20-2011, 03:55 AM   #47
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One more with Ford, hell, maybe even two more. Then reboot it in earlier times, the 30s and 40s, with someone suitable for the role. It's totally feasible and desirable.
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Old 02-20-2011, 04:12 AM   #48
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One more with Ford, hell, maybe even two more. Then reboot it in earlier times, the 30s and 40s, with someone suitable for the role. It's totally feasible and desirable.

I'd like to see Indiana Jones, Star Wars, ET, Close Encounters, and all the original Lucas/Spielberg classics be spared the reboot/remake treatment. It's really bargain basement studio tactics to recycle characters for new "updates" ad infinitum. I consider Spielberg and Lucas to be creators of original characters and stories, which is different than adapting a comic book to film or something, and deserves enough respect to be left alone in film.

It would be nice to see other filmmakers create some original ideas instead of adapting, rebooting and remaking other storytellers' work all the time. It's really just big budget fan fiction. And to an extent, I even mean Spielberg when he adapts a novel. He has to have more original ideas he can come up with. Nice to see even though Lucas is mainly expanding his existing universes, he's really not interested in adapting other people's work.

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Old 02-20-2011, 02:01 PM   #49
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I'd like to see Indiana Jones, Star Wars, ET, Close Encounters, and all the original Lucas/Spielberg classics be spared the reboot/remake treatment. It's really bargain basement studio tactics to recycle characters for new "updates" ad infinitum. I consider Spielberg and Lucas to be creators of original characters and stories, which is different than adapting a comic book to film or something, and deserves enough respect to be left alone in film.

It would be nice to see other filmmakers create some original ideas instead of adapting, rebooting and remaking other storytellers' work all the time. It's really just big budget fan fiction. And to an extent, I even mean Spielberg when he adapts a novel. He has to have more original ideas he can come up with. Nice to see even though Lucas is mainly expanding his existing universes, he's really not interested in adapting other people's work.

Agreed. There's no need to keep hammering nails into Indy's coffin. The longer a series goes on, the worse it generally gets. The obvious point is Harrison's age, and for me Harrison = Indy. Then there's the Lucas and Spielberg input, and just how much originality they can inject into successive Indy movies before it's blatant that they're just flogging a dead horse.

KOTCS would probably have had better reception if it was made as part of the Mummy series, with no connection to Indiana Jones at all.

Indy was in his prime in the 1980s. KOTCS was a great and innovative idea (in re-uniting a cast as older versions of themselves). Yet, I find it an awkward hotch-potch of the good, the bad and the downright ugly.
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Old 02-21-2011, 04:21 PM   #50
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A second trilogy would be amazing, but only if Ford was the star. Otherwise I say they do Indy V and then leave it at that for the films.
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