Indy 4 on DVD

indyclone25

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did anyone see on the indy 4 dvd commercial, at the end of the commercial they have the dvd and the blu-ray on and on the blu-ray it says "limited time only"------ wonder if that means that they will have all the indy movies in blu-ray soon in 2009?
 

DarthGemni

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indyclone25 said:
did anyone see on the indy 4 dvd commercial, at the end of the commercial they have the dvd and the blu-ray on and on the blu-ray it says "limited time only"------ wonder if that means that they will have all the indy movies in blu-ray soon in 2009?

If I would have to guess I would say we'll see all 4 Indy movies on Blu-Ray in 2009, and most likely all 6 Star Wars movies by 2010..I think they are just making sure Blu-Ray isn't another laser-disc (I don't think it is)...
 

The_Joker7895

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Back on topic, I'm tyring to decide whether to get the box set with all 4 films or just the KOTCS two disc dvd to go alongside the recent re-release of the trilogy. Hmmmmm.... :confused:
 

QBComics

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Forbidden Eye said:
I'm sure that's BS, I've seen it three times and don't remember any of the sort. The characters don't ever talk about "the downfall of America" until at Indy's house. Plus, I'd trust Spielberg and Lucas to not have given us total(out of context) propaganda at the expense of their passion for filmmaking.

It just came to me today: It was a painting of Marcus Brody :dead:. I can't belive it took me this long.

(Outside the classroom, before Stanforth sits.)
 

Agent Z

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The subtitles I have seen for the standard dvd leave lots to be desired.

While I never honestly expected to have actual English translations for the Russian dialogue, the subtitles don't even appear when any of the Russian is spoken...not even as a courtesy to tell us that Russian is being spoken. :rolleyes:

I hope I got some fansubs by mistake, but they look like Paramount subtitles. Disappointing if they ultimately are.
 

Dene

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Agent Z said:
I hope I got some fansubs by mistake, but they look like Paramount subtitles.
How would that have happened?

If we as moviegoers weren't meant to understand what the Russians are saying, then leaving off subtitles at those points is what I personally would've been expecting them to do.
 

torao

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http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/3491...-of-the-crystal-skull-2-disc-special-edition/

This review makes the Extras look much better than I anticipated. And those screenshots are hilarious.

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Goddamnit, Spielberg, how could you do this to me...and now you melt my anger away by posing with those cute creatures you sentimental ...aawwww....how cuuuuuteee...

"Locations, sets, stunts, performances, silliness, direction, bugs, weather, special effects, snakes, hairdos, backlots, molds, costumes, ant juice, and marital hugs and kisses. It's all covered here, and with tremendous BTS footage to back up the effusive comments."
I'm actually looking forward to this now. I know it will be painful. But I still have to see this.

Now this:
"...the recent Frank Darabont contribution is not mentioned"
...is intolerable.
 

indyrcks

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THE FILM

The last time Indiana Jones was in action, he was riding off into the sunset, with a final quest behind him. It took 19 years to coax him back to the screen, but the archeology O.G. is back, and "Kingdom of Crystal Skull" doesn't disappoint in the least. This is the high-flyin', fingernail-chewing, stand-up-and-cheer experience as anticipated, yet it's not exactly the same Dr. Jones as you might remember.

The year is 1957, and Indiana Jones (Harrison Ford) has settled into a life alone, mourning the loss of his father, Henry Sr., and colleague Marcus Brody. Rustling him out of his routine are vicious Russian soldiers, led by psychic Irina Spalko (Cate Blanchett, a sublime heavy), who want Indy to uncover the location of a mysterious crystal skull, using clues left behind by his old friend, Oxley (John Hurt). Helping Indy out is Mutt Williams (Shia LaBeouf), a tough young greaser who needs Indy to save his mother, Marion (Karen Allen). Traveling to South America to find the lost Temple of Akator, Indy fights to slip out of Spalko's tight grip while trying to uncover the skull's purpose before the Russians can claim their ultimate, world-dominating prize.



The familiar fingerprints of Indiana Jones are smudged all over "Kingdom:" director Steven Spielberg and producer George Lucas even dust off the old Paramount Pictures logo to help match the mood that was left hanging in 1989. It's a commendable effort, keeping the audience comfy with what they're seeing in 2008, but it's a little misleading. "Kingdom" is an old-fashioned, no-frills Indy adventure, but it also shakes up the franchise wherever it can. No matter what the Beards tell the press, "Kingdom" is Indy 2.0, but in a very rewarding way. It steps forward, not back, approaching the character's epic life from a fresh perspective.

It's a new world for Indiana Jones, who comes to "Kingdom" after his war-hero days in WWII, still feeling the sting of loved ones who have passed on. He's older, wiser, and fully entrenched in his stuffy professorial ways; committed to education now more than ever, but still able and willing to throw a punch when needed. Of course, Ford plays the aging symphony like a maestro, never pushing too hard on the bitter old man routine, instead nicely sinking into Indy's ripened ways. Sure, the screenplay by David Koepp likes to poke fun at Indy's years with some clever gags, but Spielberg seems more enchanted with the character's maturation into a team player, not using the age for a cheap punchline.



In reality, the post-war mood is a delightful way to refresh Indy iconography, taking the audience into a darker world where targeting absolute evil is a more complicated process and American might is being swallowed by communist paranoia. The original films (1981's "Raiders of the Lost Ark," 1984's "Temple of Doom," and 1989's "The Last Crusade") all played into the gleeful 1930's Saturday-matinee-serial mentality, marked by pristine colors (courtesy of ace cinematographer Douglas Slocombe), heavy production detail, and sparkling outdoorsy escapades. The Cold War environment of "Kingdom" is more claustrophobic and agitated; Spielberg and his shooter Janusz Kaminski replicate the massively layered compositions of the earlier installments, but ease in a new clouded color palette and enclosed sensation through the substantial usage of sets.

That's not to say the film is dreary; it's anything but that, yet subtle changes are felt throughout the picture, emphasizing the polished technology Spielberg is working with now, not to mention his own growth behind the camera, after years of trying to strip away his "Mr. Blockbuster" reputation. "Kingdom" snuggles into the Indy goods easily, but it's best to acknowledge that "Kingdom" is somewhat aesthetically different than the previous adventures, and that's an outstanding achievement.



While Spielberg is wrestling with vast sound stage spaces and easing into a CGI-led cinematic world, "Kingdom" doesn't hesitate to reawaken the breakneck velocity the franchise is known for. The film opens with a literal bang, as Indy battles Spalko around the infinite warehouse location glimpsed at the end of "Raiders," swinging around the joint with his trusty bullwhip and barely dodging Russian bullets. Right from the starter pistol, Ford reclaims the character's bruiser physicality and Spielberg dusts off his old crack timing, bestowing audiences with a skillful opening reel that feels just like a visit from an old friend; at the same time, Spielberg updates the proceedings with a handsome 1950's mood, using the sounds of Elvis and haunting atomic bomb testing ground locations to get viewers up to speed with the new era.

It's chase scenes galore from there, including a crackerjack motorcycle ride through Indy's college campus with Mutt (hunted by Russian agents) and the film's centerpiece: a gymnastic jungle chase sequence that mirrors the classic marathon desert brawl of "Raiders." Here, the CG glaze is most readily apparent, but it never bothered me. With Spielberg staging the action in sweeping, dazzling widescreen movements (seemingly allergic to heavy editing), I'll take the Lucas-mandated artificiality with a degree of patience. They don't make movies quite like they used to in the '80s, but "Kingdom" shimmies awfully close to the mall-multiplex ecstasy of observing characters leaping around the frame with abandon, pummeling each other while the John Williams score blasts away triumphantly. When "Kingdom" rears back and delivers the goods, the result will reduce the average Indy fan to pudding.



Surprisingly, the titular MacGuffin is far more critical to the story than previous installments have dictated. There's no fortune and glory lust about the crystal skull for Indy, and he takes possession of the spooky magnetized item early on in the film, leaving the rest of the action in protection mode rather than retrieval. To keep within the '50's vibe, there are sci-fi overtones to the story, using the 1947 events in Roswell and the skull's football-like shape to introduce otherworldly mystery to "Kingdom" in place of religious or supernatural focal points. The whole film is a good-natured homage to this era of filmmaking, with giant ant rampages, Soviet domination, and Mutt in full Brando, "Wild One" mode as a switchblade-carrying, leather-jacket-wearing, Harley-riding delinquent.

Keeping that mindset of '50's sci-fi will help to digest the conclusion of "Kingdom," where Lucas's fingers can be felt again in the film's second generous helping of CG embellishment.



Even if today's filmmaking technology creeps up in "Kingdom," the heart belongs to Ford. It's a blissful performance that mixes Indy's punch-drunk bewilderment with haggard acknowledgement of limitation, showing age not through fatigue but through a welcomed sense of family and educational responsibility. Ford plays the brief tributes to Sean Connery and Denholm Elliot with marvelous grace and dives into all the bloodied beatings, but the real energy of "Kingdom" comes from his encounters with LaBeouf and Allen, which crackle with traditional Indy magic and bring the absolute best out of the actor.

Spielberg deserves a medal the way he suppresses LaBeouf's annoying performance habits, turning the young star into a credible greaser and an unexpectedly vulnerable sidekick. LaBeouf is a revelation here and doesn't stick out in the Indiana Jones world as much as expected. He supports Ford wonderfully, but once Allen shows up at the midway point, some old "Raiders" chemistry is rekindled to steal the movie away. Marion and Indy don't receive the luxurious screen time they deserve in "Kingdom," but the actors make the most of it, creating needed romantic sparks at the center of all the mayhem, lovingly comedic with their reunion and the unexpected revelations that come with it. It's just a delight to see Ford and Allen back in character.
 
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WeAreGoingToDie

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I loved the dvdtalk review! Put into words exactly how I feel about the film. Harrison shines in the role, yes it's Indy 2.0 but it's still Indy! Very excited for the DVD release, especially the special features. :whip:
 

indyrcks

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thank goodness someone else loves the film It may be different to the previous ones but it's Harrison Ford people so respect it he is back as Indy after all these years even though I am only a new fan:whip:
 

WeAreGoingToDie

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I know they mention that the screengrabs don't represent the DVD quality, but those colors look really good! Especially the yellows and blues. I need to get me some 5.1 surround. I feel I have yet to tap into my Indy and Star Wars DVDs. (y)

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Agent Z

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Dene said:
How would that have happened?

I'm stretching. Fansubs are out there, but these early rips likely haven't gone that route....

Dene said:
If we as moviegoers weren't meant to understand what the Russians are saying, then leaving off subtitles at those points is what I personally would've been expecting them to do.

I don't know if we weren't meant to understand what the Russians were saying. I think it was more of an artistic (with shades of marketing mixed in) choice, not to be throwing so many subtitles on the screen in a film from a series that had never bothered to before.

Again, I never expected actual translations, but I'm surprised that the russian speak was dismissed altogether.

I would hate to have to be actually depending on these subs to understand the film. :(

I think I'm going to assume that these are not the complete subs for now. They seem to be lacking everything except the english dialogue. Even the musical cues ("Hound Dog" for instance) fail to get mentioned.
 

nitzsche

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I noticed that Harrison's eyeballs shake in that scene. It doesn't look like he is doing it though - looks like they would have had to used CGI. I didn't notice this in the theatre.
 
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