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Old 03-16-2009, 07:30 AM   #76
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Sam 4 Kirsten 4 Spidey 4...

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“I can’t imagine making a ‘Spider-Man’ movie without Kirsten,” he said, seemingly contemplating the idea in his head with a long pause. “Of course it can be done because Spider Man has existed without the character of Mary-Jane but she’s one of my favorite parts and it would be a shame not to have her in the picture. I’m hoping she’ll be in it and I’m planning on having a story with her in it.”
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Old 03-16-2009, 04:17 PM   #77
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Well, consistency is key. I guess.

BTW, glad to see you with an avatar again, The Man!
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Old 03-16-2009, 04:32 PM   #78
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BTW, glad to see you with an avatar again, The Man!

Yes, he's very fetching...
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Old 03-31-2009, 12:20 PM   #79
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Sam: "I'm The Man!"

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“They really gave me a tremendous amount of control on the first two films, actually,” Raimi told British magazine Empire. “But then there were different opinions on the third film and I didn’t really have creative control, so to speak.”

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“The best way for me to move forward on films,” Raimi continued, “is that I’ve got to be the singular voice that makes the creative choices on the film.

And The Script..?*

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"Right now, David Lindsay-Abaire is working on a draft of the new picture," Raimi said. "And he's hard at work, and hopefully we'll see something in about three months."




*If the link gives any trouble, just keep refreshing the page...
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Old 03-31-2009, 12:44 PM   #80
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wells it's nice to see that sam raimi will be in control of spidey 4 --- the first two were so well made ---not saying that spidey 3 was the worst movie i have ever seen --- but when they start throwing more and more villians it starts to be to much.
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Old 03-31-2009, 01:18 PM   #81
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Yeah, after Spiderman 2, I was suprised that 3 didn't quite carry on the same way. I still think its a good movie, but I think they really screwed w/ Venom, and that was what brought the film down in my opinion. Here's hoping for 4 to be good!
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Old 03-31-2009, 02:23 PM   #82
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wells it's nice to see that sam raimi will be in control of spidey 4 --- the first two were so well made ---not saying that spidey 3 was the worst movie i have ever seen --- but when they start throwing more and more villians it starts to be to much.

the only comic book film that managed to pull it off with a crap load of villians was Dick Tracy. Spiderman can do the same if done right by Sam.
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Old 09-14-2009, 01:13 PM   #83
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Bruce Campbell shedding his silly cameo appearances and becoming the main villain?

http://www.mania.com/campbell-to-pla...le_117589.html
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Old 12-17-2009, 11:57 AM   #84
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Spider-M4N?!?

http://www.cinematical.com/2009/12/1...pider-m4n-wtf/

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Something real stinky is beginning to pollute the production of Spider-Man 4, and it's hard not to worry about the eventual outcome. According to IESB, sources deep inside the production have informed them that all movement on the fourth installment has grounded to a halt because a) there doesn't appear to be a completed script yet, and b) the studio and director Sam Raimi can't seen to agree on a villain. The site claims that Raimi really wants Vulture to be his villain (hence the recent news that John Malkovich was being eyed for the role), but the studio wants any villain but Vulture (perhaps because they've since read the negative online reaction that popped up once the Vulture rumors began making the rounds).

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And to further infuriate those who still actually care about this movie, apparently the title they've been using during pre-production is Spider-M4N. I know, it's painful, but we'll get through this together I promise. With all the hoopla going on, still no one has given us a clear-cut reason as to why they're not bringing this sucker full circle by making The Lizard Spidey's main villain. That's what makes the most sense, that's what the fans want and that's what would give Peter Parker the sort of personal battle that Raimi loves. That is, unless Lizard is already in there and Raimi is fighting for a second villain in Vulture -- perhaps to act as an instigator for Lizard like he was originally supposed to do for Sandman when the character was tossed around for Spider-Man 3.
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Old 12-18-2009, 06:21 PM   #85
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They really should have Carnage in SM4. I mean, Venom didnt get a big enough part in the movie; he is so bad ass and he only got to be seen later towards the end of the movie. LAME!!! so they should make up for that by using Carnage.
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Old 12-20-2009, 07:56 AM   #86
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They really should have Carnage in SM4. I mean, Venom didnt get a big enough part in the movie; he is so bad ass and he only got to be seen later towards the end of the movie. LAME!!! so they should make up for that by using Carnage.


I was still reading ASM etc at the time Carnage was introduced (still have those original comics!) and I found carnage to be a 2D unimaginitive Venom. Although later got some better storylines, his best being to enhance the roles between Venom and Spidey. Although a true Bad A$$ I always found Venom more interesting.

They should have done Venom right. I think they didn't do him enough justice to introduce Carnage and subsequently nowI dont think that's the way to go for Spidey 4.

Carnage for me only works well with Venom around. I think that ship has sailed unless Venom is done right first.

I personally also think the Carnage and Reilly clone era was a convoluted low point in Spidey history and advise they leave well alone.

In fact I believe it was shortly after this mess I stopped reading ASM.

TBA I think the best Spidey villains have been done. He has many but very few are good movie material.

Electro...lame
Mysterio...lame
Rhino...lame but perhaps a small role

Lizard...maybe

Kraven or Black Cat could be interesting.

Kingpin and Smythe....nah...

Maybe temporarily sacking off MJ, bring back Green Goblin and have Peter fall for Gwen big time then let Goblin kill her. Then bring back MJ to pick up the pieces.

Goblin/Osborn really messing with Spidey's head and life then also being a great adversary toe to toe. Classic Spider-man.
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Old 12-22-2009, 02:11 AM   #87
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A-MEN, Bones! THAT is a movie I'd go see!
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Old 01-11-2010, 09:23 PM   #88
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I'm Spider-Man... no more?!?

http://www.slashfilm.com/2010/01/11/...boot-for-2012/

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WHOA. As I mentioned earlier, Nikki Finke just recruited Variety’s chief newshound Mike Fleming, and now the new duo are coming out of the gate with a massive story. Their first big report is that Sony is scrapping Spider-Man 4 after script and schedule concerns caused Sam Raimi to walk away from the film. The scuttled sequel has already been confirmed by a Sony Pictures press release, and the studio will now go for a full franchise reboot. New director, new cast.

Finke and Fleming’s report says the decision was made just today, and that the studio will start over with a “franchise reboot” script by James Vanderbilt. They quote sources reporting that Raimi said he couldn’t make the picture’s 2011 release date and maintain quality standards.

The Sony press release offers more info. Shorn of back-patting quotes, the core info is as follows:

Peter Parker is going back to high school when the next Spider-Man hits theaters in the summer of 2012. Columbia Pictures and Marvel Studios announced today they are moving forward with a film based on a script by James Vanderbilt that focuses on a teenager grappling with both contemporary human problems and amazing super-human crises.


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That means no Malkovich, no Vulture, no Vulturess, and no more Kirsten Dunst. Let’s see what Sony comes up with now; bets on a thinly-translated Ultimate Spider-Man adaptation? Reboot writer James Vanderbilt wrote an early draft of Spider-Man 4, and had been hired to write the presumptive fifth and sixth films.

When that deal for SM5 and 6 came down last August, the possibility of those scripts being the basis for a reboot was mentioned, so this isn’t an utter left-field surprise. Though a studio scrapping a film as potentially massive as Spidey 4 in favor of a reboot is still a huge deal; this is nothing like rebooting the Hulk, or Ghost Rider or Fantastic Four.

What next for Raimi? Will he go directly on to World of Warcraft, the Dennis Lehane adaptation The Given Day, or something else? (Another smaller film?) All things considered, you’ve got to guess that he and Tobey Maguire are both more happy than anything else to get away from increasingly difficult franchise.
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Old 01-12-2010, 05:20 PM   #89
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I don't think we need another reboot.

Spider-man 1 + 2 (to much a lesser degree 3) were good enough recent films.

If we are not getting SM4 a continuation of the story then TBH I'd rather they left Spidey alone a while and give us something new, rather than rehashed.

But then...if they do as well as original Spider-man.....
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Old 01-12-2010, 07:12 PM   #90
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So thrilled to hear this **** got canned.


When I met Bruce Campbell the other year (and he called me a jackass!! ), he said that there was just no time for another Evil Dead what with Raimi doing Spiderman 4, 5 and 6 and his doing Burn Notice. Hopefully this will clear things up now...
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Old 01-12-2010, 07:36 PM   #91
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I don't really care about Spiderman 4. I mean the first two films were entertaining and the third was kind of silly. But I don't understand why Columbia feels the need to reboot the franchise? Can't these studios make something else? Just because they have the rights to these comic book franchises, doesn't mean they have to squeeze them for all they're worth.

I'm tired of comic book movies, I really am. In fact, the only comic book movie I'm looking forward to is Tintin. But then again, Tintin is the only comic I've ever read besides Watchmen.

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Old 01-13-2010, 11:44 AM   #92
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I'm not sure this will work out why reboot something after three films
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Old 01-13-2010, 02:12 PM   #93
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Petition to Save Spider-Man 4

So just because Sony Pictures didn't want to wait an extra year, they've booted Sam Raimi and Tobey Maguire, Kirsten Dunst and everyone from the original cast of the Spider-Man movies in favor of a new younger director and a completely different cast. They say they want to appeal to a younger audience. A lot of people are mad about this and so I've created a petition in which we can hopefully make some sort of an impact. If you loved the Spider-Man movies and don't want to see Spidey ruined by stupid Hollywood, please sign this petition to give Sam Raimi creative control back!
http://www.PetitionOnline.com/s4sam/petition.html
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Old 01-13-2010, 07:29 PM   #94
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Now that would be great news. Bring back Ash!

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So thrilled to hear this **** got canned.


When I met Bruce Campbell the other year (and he called me a jackass!! ), he said that there was just no time for another Evil Dead what with Raimi doing Spiderman 4, 5 and 6 and his doing Burn Notice. Hopefully this will clear things up now...
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Old 01-14-2010, 02:43 PM   #95
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I have signed the petition this is not right that Tobey and Sam have walked away from Spiderman they should come back
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Old 01-14-2010, 02:49 PM   #96
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The script was god awful though. The studio made many changes that would've made Spider-man 3 look like The Dark Knight. So if that's true, I agree with Raimi. And I'm glad he walked away. Because it seems Spider-man 4 would've been a complete disaster.

Now I'm not on board yet with this reboot. Sources say the script was being written the same time as SM-4 and would be an alternative if Raimi walked. They also say the reboot's script is more like Dark Knight then Spidey. Serious and realistic. That may sound good to some, but that's just not Spider-man.
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Old 01-14-2010, 02:54 PM   #97
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But why would Sony do this
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But why would Sony do this

Reboot the franchise you mean?

Because a reboot means a fresh start, which means more movies, which means more MONEY.
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The script was god awful though. The studio made many changes that would've made Spider-man 3 look like The Dark Knight. So if that's true, I agree with Raimi. And I'm glad he walked away. Because it seems Spider-man 4 would've been a complete disaster.

The villians in the featured script were? Vulture?
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Reboot the franchise you mean?

Because a reboot means a fresh start, which means more movies, which means more MONEY.


Yep....a reeboot is normally risky considering the successs of the originals, it's always going to be comapred...but there's enough interest with younger fans coming through, plus the die hards who will always make Spidey a money spinner (ahem!) Spidey is too huge worldwide to make a loss....even if it is critically panned.

It worked for Casino Royale and Batman Begins....

Done right it could be a good thing....done right obviously.

Spidey is so popluar it would be hard to fail at the box office given a decent budget. Might not mean it's artistically a good film or as good as the originals...but they only care about making $$$$$£££££££$$$$$$

...hence me must make another Spidey movie at all costs seems to be the vibe I am getting, even if the original line up has now walked. Too much dough to be made to leave spidey on the shelf too long.

I have mixed feelings about it but I am a Spidey sucker so they'll get my ticket money.
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