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Old 07-25-2012, 04:33 AM   #1
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Dredd

In the mid-nineties I started reading comics on a regular basis again. Primarily, the new newly launched Image books like Spawn and Savage Dragon; Wild C.A.T.S, Gen 13, Sin City, and others would follow in short order.




One of those books that I could only find infrequently was 2000 A.D., the British sci-fi publication that gave rise to Judge Dredd. In the dystopian future Dredd inhabits, he's the most illustrious member of Mega City 1's police force, the Street Judges. In short, he was judge, jury, and executioner wrapped into a Warhammer 40k-like uniform! So it was with some excitement that I went into the theatre to see the Stallone-driven picture.

Remember this colossal turkey? You'd be forgiven if you don't. Despite the Gucci-designed uniform (or was that Armani?), a great looking ABC robot, and the confoundedly popular at the time Rob Schneider, it tanked at the box office. It would take another 17-years before they attempted to bring it to the silver screen again.



That's Karl Urban donning the helmet. You might remember him from such films as The Lord of the Rings, Priest, and the recent Star Trek remake where he filled the shoes of Bones McCoy. Olivia Thirlby and Lena Headey round out the principle players.

:60-clip from the movie.



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Absolutely, yeah, most of the time in genres such as this one I think that the female characters are largely there to look hot. I'm not saying anything bad about that. That definitely serves a purpose, but that was never the idea for Anderson and I think that's what made me feel comfortable to play her. The character is so majorly badass in the script, and [it's] really Alex Garland who wrote this amazing character. But the costumes, even the way that they were designed, I remember being in the early fittings when they were just taking the measurements and telling me about what it was going to look like. The costume has a zipper on the front and I was saying, 'well can't I keep it unzipped a little bit?' And they were saying, 'no you can't, because this film is not about making you look sexy and buxom, this film is realistic and you're supposed to look like a riot cop. No riot cop would unzip their bulletproof vest down to show cleavage.'

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When I read the script, it became obvious to me that what we were endeavoring to do was completely different. Tonally, you couldn't get more different. I watched the Stallone version to see what worked and what didn't work. The way I wanted to approach this character was not to have him be a posturing, bellowing character that was ground in ego. To me, that wasn't the Dredd I knew. I thought it was far more interesting to have a character with this inner rage, struggling to contain it rather than letting it all explode. That's the direction I was going in. I decided that what I wanted to do was to find the humanity within Dredd because he is just a man. He's not a superhero, he has no superhero power. He's just a man. It's his heroism that makes him so iconic, defines him. He's the guy always walking into the building when everyone else is running out. He does the things most people wouldn't dare to do in real life.

Dialogue with Karl Urban here.

I missed the sneak peak at Comic Con, but the early buzz has been positive.

Buy a ticket, will ya?!

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Old 07-25-2012, 07:03 AM   #2
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Thanks for all the pictures and info. on the new film Dredd.

Though I flipped through the comic years ago, I never really read an issue - I may have to at some point soon, since the forthcoming new film is renewing my interest in the character.

Re: the '90's Judge Dredd film w/Stallone, I'm probably one of the only people on the planet who actually liked this; I felt the city-scenes & effects were good (by '90's standards), and the fight with the robot on the ship was quite suspenseful. The futuristic dystopic city was really well-done, and painted a very bleak, overcrowded picture of the future which I felt was very convincing. Sure, it wasn't a great sci-fi movie by most standards, but it kept me entertained. That being said, if I had been a hardcore fan of the comic I may not have liked the film as much....
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Old 07-27-2012, 05:10 AM   #3
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Thanks for all the pictures and info. on the new film Dredd.

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Re: the '90's Judge Dredd film w/Stallone, I'm probably one of the only people on the planet who actually liked this; I felt the city-scenes & effects were good (by '90's standards), and the fight with the robot on the ship was quite suspenseful. The futuristic dystopic city was really well-done, and painted a very bleak, overcrowded picture of the future which I felt was very convincing. Sure, it wasn't a great sci-fi movie by most standards, but it kept me entertained.

I probably liked it when I initially saw it in theatres. Bits and pieces still amuse me today, but a more recent viewing confirms the colossal turkey viewpoint. It couldn't decide what tone to take, and it gradually came apart at the seems.

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That being said, if I had been a hardcore fan of the comic I may not have liked the film as much....

The set decoration and costume are spot on; no problems there. It's the rather poor interpretation of Dredd and the unnecessary comedic foil that derailed it. Adaptation remains the buzz word.

Geek Tyrant (yeah, I never heard of them either) has a set of new pictures/wallpapers/banners, as well as brief bit of positivity. The official site is also up and running.

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Old 07-31-2012, 03:11 AM   #4
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The Wall Street Journal (oddly enough) sat down with Olivia Thirlby at Comic Con to discuss her role in Dredd.



Karl Urban chats with JoBlo.com



Want to see a sequel? Buy a ticket. Per screenwriter Alex Garland, he of The Beach fame, they'll be back for a sequel if Dredd grosses $50-million at the US box office. If it flops, this'll probably be the last time Judge Dredd ever graces any screen.

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“In the sequel. Which we can make as long as the film grosses over $50 million in the States. It might be tough – this is an 18, an R rating. The first time I sat down to do the script I did 16 drafts of Death. It didn’t feel right. We needed to set it all up first. The next version was all sort of the Long Walk and America, but we needed to get to know Dredd and everyone first. The trilogy would be this film, then Origins and then the Dark Judges".



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Despite the Gucci-designed uniform (or was that Armani?)

Wrong on both accounts! It was Versace.

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Old 08-04-2012, 05:08 AM   #5
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The final poster for Dredd has been released. I prefer the original teaser, but this one is certainly cool.




You can also check out the rather swell artwork to the Dredd companion comic set to debut later this month!



And while you're waiting, rock out with your Lawgiver out!

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Old 08-08-2012, 02:44 AM   #6
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i've loved Dredd since I was a kid in the 90s. Can't wait for this one. I've already informed my wife that I'll be there on opening day and she can come...or not. Makes no difference to me.
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Old 08-31-2012, 04:16 AM   #7
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Defense noted.




We're just under a month away from Dredd's official release date, and info continues to trickle out.

:60 trailer features a modicum of new footage. There is a good indication of how Urban is going to approach the dialogue, and it's pretty good in my opinion.



IGN.com also has a featurette on the movie's slow motion effects. Dig it.

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Old 09-09-2012, 04:34 PM   #8
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Saw this film tonight. I aren't ashamed to say that what persuaded me to see this was it's rating. It's rare these days to see an 18 certificate action film, they seemed to have died out in the early 90s. So I went with the hope of seeing an old school action movie. I had reservations that it would be too limited by the setting in a huge tower block, it all sounds a but die hard, but that may be to it's advantage in that it can't get dragged down by the mess that was stallones version when it was set inside and outside mega city. Yet a disadvantage is that it could be seen as a cheap option to limit it to small sets.

Let's get one thing straight the story is nigh on non existent, 2 judges (dredd and his rookie partner) are trapped in a 200 floor tower block and the resident drug gangs want them dead. Simple.

I have never read 2000ad, but I get the impression that fans wanted this movie to reflect the violence in the comics and for dredd to keep the helmet on and be emotionless. If those were the case then it delivers on those counts. There's plenty of victims and some typically 80s gunshot violence, so it's easy to see why it got it's 18 certificate.

I saw it in 3d, which probably wasn't needed, although some scenes do benefit from it, and these are to show the effects of the drug that the gang are distributing.

If you want some old school action violence with little plot then this is the film for you. I thought Keith Urban was good as Dredd and overall the film passed by quickly. it was certainly better than the 95 version. However if they do a sequel then it would be good to see the scope expanded a touch.

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Old 09-09-2012, 05:29 PM   #9
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Keith urban? Surely I meant Karl urban.
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Old 09-13-2012, 02:42 PM   #10
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Saw it yesterday.

Whilst way better than the previous awful offering, it was a fairly pedestrian shoot em up movie that could have been about any cop in a dystopian future.

No real fanboy moments. I thought maybe it was trying to be a more realistic version of Dredd, so much so it becomes about nothing than a day in the life of Joe the future cop.

The interview where this is about getting to know Dredd....there's nothing to know from this movie. Film starts, he puts a bucket on his head, he's a bit dour and stern with his partner, executes a lot of bad guys. Film ends.

Won't compare it to the recent film it supposedly mirrors as I haven't seen that movie.

Zero characterisation, zero plot, zero performance from Urban, whom I though was fantastic as Dr McCoy.

A charatcer like Dredd needs an actor with the command to make it hard for us to see anyone else in the role, this movie made it easy to see anyone in the role.

Thirlby was likeable but that wasn't enough.

I didn't hate it but it was as expected.

3D was OK but with most of this current gimmick, you forget it's 3D after 10minutes, until they do yet another slow mo "better use some 3D" action shot.

Average. Very average.

Any sequel needs bigger Dredd related plot and better character development.
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Old 09-14-2012, 02:15 AM   #11
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3D was OK but with most of this current gimmick, you forget it's 3D after 10minutes, until they do yet another slow mo "better use some 3D" action shot.
This was the most disappointing aspect for me, in that there was no choice to see it in 2d. Which it a slightly more expensive night. However at some points in the film I had a cheeky peak over the specs and some of it looked to be in 2d to me.
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Old 09-21-2012, 12:31 PM   #12
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Decent movie, but as a long time Judge Dredd comic fan, I was a little disappointed that they tried too hard to give the material an overly realistic tone.
In ditching the more over-the-top elements of the Dredd universe, they essentially robbed the film of many of the unique things that make Judge Dredd what it is.
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You missed this in theatres. I missed this in theatres (like a lot of things these days), but the opportunity to redeem ourselves is available now that the flick's been released on video.

Not only is it on video, according to Lionsgate Dredd is the highest selling home video on the sell-through charts with over 650,000 copies! Roughly fifty percent of those sales were physical copies. Not bad for a movie that can be safely described as a box office failure; it took in $13-million in the U.S. for a combined haul of $32.7-million on a budget of $50-million.

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The verdict is in and Lionsgate (NYSE: LGF), a leading global entertainment company, announced today that the home entertainment release of DREDD claimed the number one spot on the DVD sell-through and Blu-ray charts with 650,000 units sold, making it the best-selling new release title of the year. Blu-ray units accounted for nearly 50% of week 1 POS at retail. In addition, the critically acclaimed thriller, starring Karl Urban (Star Trek) as the titular character Judge Dredd, was the top film download for the week, outpacing all other titles in digital sales as well.

Full press release can be viewed here.

So, like, go buy a copy already. There's still a healthy chance that Dredd will recoup its expenses, and a sequel might even see the light of day!



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Dredd received fairly positive critical reaction when it was released, but it still failed to really ignite at the box office. I have to wonder how this new Blu-ray is going to be received in the current climate that is understandably touchy over mass shootings, something that is part and parcel of this film. But without getting into the seemingly eternal debate of how much influence media violence has on impressionable minds, Dredd is a remarkably exciting film, one that doesn't waste a lot of time on psychology and motivation, and instead just gives us that equally eternal showdown between good and evil. This Blu-ray offers great looking video, although the 3D effects, while substantial, are often very subtle. The audio is simply spectacular and should blow away all but the most hardened audiophile. While the supplementary package isn't overwhelming, it's still enjoyable, and the release comes Highly Recommended.

Full review here if you're interested.

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Old 01-23-2013, 04:03 AM   #14
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I saw this in the theatres and enjoyed it, however I can understand why it didn't do so well when it was only released in 3d, thus limiting its audience. However its a perfect film for the dvd market and its no surprise that its done so well so far in that respect. I'll certainly try and pick up a copy.
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I saw this in the theatres and enjoyed it, however I can understand why it didn't do so well when it was only released in 3d, thus limiting its audience. However its a perfect film for the dvd market and its no surprise that its done so well so far in that respect. I'll certainly try and pick up a copy.

I picked up a copy just to bump up its sales, but haven't actually bothered to open it! Yep, still sealed. Why? It's available on Netflix's streaming service and apparently putting in a disc is too much effort these days! But I have seen it four or five times now!

Haven't seen it? Check out the first few minutes. Hopefully it'll whet your appetite for more.



In other news, the movie has received an official sequel... in comic form. It began it's run last month, and should be available wherever comics are sold.



But, but... the reason for bumping this thread: After thinking that the chances of ever seeing Dredd were finished, a surprise revelation come out of Vegas' Star Trek convention! Basically, there are conversations being held about the sequel between Urban and unnamed parties! It would seem that the flick definitely went on to find an audience on home video!

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Very pleased that it's at least in talks. The first film was a pleasure, a great throwback to unapologetically violent 80's genre movies. Urban would have made a great RoboCop in the recent reboot.

That said, I actually really enjoyed that film. Further proof that remakes are not fundamentally awful ideas. They can work.
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I really hope there's a sequel for this in the future. It's such an entertaining movie, quite good.
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Haven't seen it? Check out the first few minutes. Hopefully it'll whet your appetite for more.

Was that Mega City One?

It looks a bit ordinary and not the least bit futuristic, or for that matter absurd, which is the real mark of a Dredd story.

Are there mutants, fatties and house robots with speech impediments?
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My interest in the film went up significantly yesterday when Art Figures revealed a bootleg sixth scale Karl Urban Dredd.

Hadn't even realized that both this thread and film went back to 2012.

Going by the trailers and clips it doesn't seem to reflect the bizarre world of the comics. But the main character is unmistakably Dredd brought to life.

A better uniform now - with less bling - than when Stallone squeezed into his, even if Stallone's was a little closer to the original.








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I thought it was a super film... my favourite of that year and the best use of 3d I've seen in the cinema
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I thought it was a super film... my favourite of that year and the best use of 3d I've seen in the cinema

Going to have to get the Blu-ray now!

It's not the first time that I've come to a film via toys. This guy got me into the Transformers series:





And it was Hasbro's Indy figures that got me to this very forum!
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It's worthwhile. I read 2000AD from the beginning and budget limitations aside, I thought that they captured the atmosphere. Urban was excellent.
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Now, if they can only push forward with the Dredd sequel.
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It's worthwhile. I read 2000AD from the beginning and budget limitations aside, I thought that they captured the atmosphere. Urban was excellent.

Looks like I'll get to see it sooner than expected as a member of another forum just gave me a tip!

Looking forward to it now.
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Now, if they can only push forward with the Dredd sequel.

If the phenomenal numbers of pre-orders for the 1/6 figure are anything to go by, a sequel looks very likely.

Seasoned UK retailers have reported the following on their respective Facebook pages:

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The demand worldwide has been astonishing.

I have the Dredd film now and started watching last night. Didn't get far in, but I liked the introduction. Would love to see this being revisited with an even bigger budget, and with more nuances and imagery from the comics. When I think of Judge Dredd and Mega-City One I think of grim satire and black comedy, and lots of violence.

From what I've seen so far Dredd has the violence. And it also has an adorable Anderson in the form of Olivia Thirlby, who might well be Milla Jovovich's long lost sister.

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