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Old 04-05-2016, 11:45 AM   #26
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Much more interesting to have a new Indy lady, perhaps an old flame whom we get to know in flashback scenes, and then older Indy meets again in act II.

We already had the "old flame" story line, twice, with Marion.

I think a more interesting twist on that would be if she's not an old flame of Indy's but of of Henry Sr.

Maybe Henry took on a younger (albeit now older) wife or girlfriend in the years after Last Crusade, who Indy never quite got along with.

I like the idea of an academic type as suggested by others, and applying it to my suggestion maybe someone like an Emma Thompson would make sense.
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Old 04-05-2016, 12:23 PM   #27
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We already had the "old flame" story line, twice, with Marion.
Not really. The first time round you can rightfully call her an old flame, whom we didn't know and Indy meets again.
In KOTCS she's more of a recurring character, much like Sallah in LC.

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I think a more interesting twist on that would be if she's not an old flame of Indy's but of of Henry Sr.
Not exactly a novel concept either, is it?

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Old 04-05-2016, 07:58 PM   #28
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Let's not do the 70 year old romance storyline, please. While it's great for certain types of films and relationships, we can't be entertained with something like this:

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Old 04-06-2016, 04:30 AM   #29
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Not really. The first time round you can rightfully call her an old flame, whom we didn't know and Indy meets again.
In KOTCS she's more of a recurring character, much like Sallah in LC

Yeah, but it's revealed in KotCS that Indy and Marion had once again had a falling-out since Raiders, and hadn't seen each other in years. To me, that seems to qualify.

Marion could come back as the antagonist for Indy V as the ex wife. "Once again what was briefly yours is now mine."
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Old 04-06-2016, 05:33 PM   #30
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Not exactly a novel concept either, is it?


Indy didn't know Elsa beforehand.

In my scenario, the lady and Indy would have had a contentious platonic relationship before the film even began. I'm imagining an "Oh God, not her again..." reaction upon her arrival in the film.
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Old 04-07-2016, 03:19 AM   #31
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Fun Fact: Ford was twice as old as Doody when they were filming Crusade.

Question: Would that make a 38 year-old love interest for Indy 5 legit?
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Old 04-07-2016, 05:16 AM   #32
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Fun Fact: Ford was twice as old as Doody when they were filming Crusade.

Question: Would that make a 38 year-old love interest for Indy 5 legit?

Probably not and it doesn't come down to some template maths formula laid over everything. But I suppose no one would want to see a 76 yo anything with a love interest half his age, especially Dr Jones in Indy5. Or at least I wouldn't. A man in his later 40s with a woman in her 20s is more acceptable.

But maybe we shouldn't be so ageist. The real world has plenty of old geezers with young ladies hanging off their arms. Of course the blokes have big, fat wallets.
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Old 04-07-2016, 10:38 AM   #33
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Question: Would that make a 38 year-old love interest for Indy 5 legit?

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Old 02-09-2017, 02:07 AM   #34
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If one 20-something year old is too young for Indy, why not have two?

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Old 02-10-2017, 01:41 PM   #35
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If one 20-something year old is too young for Indy, why not have two?
This man would know how to handle them.



This man, on the other hand...

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Old 02-13-2017, 07:10 AM   #36
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I may be in the minority here, but seeing as how in the last Indiana Jones movie, Indy reunited with Marion Ravenwood and finally married her, I would like to see Karen Allen back as Marion. She wouldn't have to have an extensive role, but it would be nice to see her included. I'd even be okay with Shia LaBeouf showing up for a bit as Mutt, though I hope that would only be a quick cameo. (I'm not particularly wanting to see more adventures of Indy and Mutt together- and it seems unlikely Shia would be brought back in any case.)
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Old 02-13-2017, 12:18 PM   #37
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I may be in the minority here, but seeing as how in the last Indiana Jones movie, Indy reunited with Marion Ravenwood and finally married her, I would like to see Karen Allen back as Marion. She wouldn't have to have an extensive role, but it would be nice to see her included. I'd even be okay with Shia LaBeouf showing up for a bit as Mutt, though I hope that would only be a quick cameo. (I'm not particularly wanting to see more adventures of Indy and Mutt together- and it seems unlikely Shia would be brought back in any case.)
I agree with this. Marion doesn't necessarily need to appear along Indy around the world, but I'd be really disappointed if Karen Allen didn't appear at all.
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Old 02-13-2017, 11:28 PM   #38
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To me, Marion should make an appearance- not all movie necessarily but at least a couple of scenes to at least explain where she is and what their relationship is at this point.

In terms of a female lead, I'm liking the former students angle that Pale suggested in another thread- have a couple of former students. One of them easily could be female. I just don't think a younger love interest would be a good idea - I also doubt Disney would like that too. I also don't want the villain angle either- been done twice.
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Old 02-14-2017, 02:37 AM   #39
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Broadbent didn't add much to the show last time around, though that was, of course, largely a writing issue.

So maybe, if Indy spends some time with a Marcus type, that character could be a woman. Not Helen Mirren, necessarily, as she's a rather obvious choice, though she could easily play not-72 to Ford's not-75.
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Old 02-14-2017, 07:57 AM   #40
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Broadbent would be a welcome return in my mind if it didn't suggest we'd be returning to campus. After the fourth movie I feel like we don't need any more time spent in the USA.
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Old 02-14-2017, 12:51 PM   #41
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if Indy spends some time with a Marcus type, that character could be a woman.

Yes, excellent idea!

When I started this thread, I was working on the assumption that the fifth move would be a prequel with a younger actor, and imagined the next Indy lady as "a sophisticated, smart, scholarly character who ends up actively helping Indy solve the puzzles and defuse the boobytraps they encounter in their quest for the macguffin".

Your post made me realize that such a character would work just as well with older Indy, particularly if she's a colleague.

The only difference with my original vision would be the lack of romantic developments.
Indy is now married to Marion and wouldn't fool around, particularly at his age.

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Not Helen Mirren, necessarily, as she's a rather obvious choice, though she could easily play not-72 to Ford's not-75.
Mirren would be great, IMO.

If they go for someone younger, Michelle Pfeiffer would also be a good choice.
She'll be around 60 by time they start shooting.
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Old 02-14-2017, 04:01 PM   #42
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If they go for someone younger, Michelle Pfeiffer would also be a good choice.She'll be around 60 by time they start shooting.

Plus they've worked together before.

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Old 02-14-2017, 05:50 PM   #43
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Helen Mirren really should've been considered for an Indy girl back in the day. She could be both seductive and dangerous. She would've, in her heyday, made a great female villain. She had the acting chops too that she could've even portrayed a rival of Indy's in the field of archaeology on par or surpassing Belloq. A Dame who unlike Belloq doesn't mind getting her hands dirty to get what she wants. So many missed opportunities....
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Old 02-14-2017, 05:53 PM   #44
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It worked in The Misfits.


While Gable was only 59 he obviously looked a lot much older. Plus 59 was considered a LOT older than in 1960 than it is now. Marilyn was 34 at the time.
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Old 02-17-2017, 10:35 PM   #45
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Perhaps Indy's son could have the hots for..... Elsa's daughter from her relationship with the Grail Knight who saved her?
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Old 03-30-2017, 06:15 PM   #46
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I'm not sure why they made Indy get married, but I guess they have to roll with it some how. So...
Here are a few things that I think it could work.
Just get rid of Marian. As classic as Marian's character was, I would like to see them either kill her off or get rid of her some how in the next movie. You could have her already be dead or gone by the start of the movie. And then that could play into some of the character development for Indy and Mutt (if he's even in it). Also, I think it would just be a bit weird to have Indy's character be married.

Family Adventure. I'm sure that they could have some family fun with Indy, Marian and Mutt going on a family adventure, but it would be really tricky getting it to work within an Indy movie. Plus that was kind of already done with Indy 4 so you can't really do much more in that area.

Marian could be in it but maybe she just doesn't go along for the ride. This wouldn't be a terrible way to keep her involved as little as possible. Indy and Mutt go on an adventure and Marian simply stays home.

Anyways, In my opinion, I'd prefer them to not have Marian in the next movie but I know that they've kinda written her back into the story in a big way so what ever happens they would have to tie up some lose ends if they get rid of her all of the sudden. If there is anything that bothers me in movies its loop holes and killing off characters just because they can.
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Old 04-05-2017, 08:42 AM   #47
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The one thing about the Indy/Marion relationship is that there a history of estrangement where they're together and then they have a falling out. I can see a scenario where for whatever reason their marriage has hit a rough patch and they are temporarily separated.

I don't mind having Indy paired up with another leading lady companion but I would prefer the movie end or at least allude to him going back to Marion.
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