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Old 12-26-2009, 07:29 PM   #51
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Would matte paintings need to be redone digitally?


Why? They were PHOTOGRAPHED. A 35mm image is higher resolution than HD.
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Old 12-26-2009, 08:15 PM   #52
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Would matte paintings need to be redone digitally?

Please, no! I love the matte paintings in these films. I wish so much that they would still use this art form in modern film-making.
Maybe they do in some movies?
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Old 12-26-2009, 11:19 PM   #53
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Why? They were PHOTOGRAPHED. A 35mm image is higher resolution than HD.

Maybe he means for depth of picture and not on screen resolution...
Still, the original matte paintings have a sort of charm about them that I wouldn't want to see permanantly replaced.
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Old 12-27-2009, 12:56 AM   #54
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Ghostbusters looks and sounds fabulous on Blu-Ray and they didn't change a thing about the SFX. Star Wars and/or Indy wold blow you away on Blu-Ray!

I'm only newly converted, and ounce I knew the difference I'll never go back.

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Old 12-27-2009, 04:50 AM   #55
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Maybe he means for depth of picture and not on screen resolution...
Still, the original matte paintings have a sort of charm about them that I wouldn't want to see permanantly replaced.

Blu Ray still doesnt come close in quality to what was shown in cinemas, so any "flaws" that Blu Ray might show up in things like the matte paintings were there in the cinema anyway.
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Old 12-27-2009, 03:12 PM   #56
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Blu Ray still doesnt come close in quality to what was shown in cinemas, so any "flaws" that Blu Ray might show up in things like the matte paintings were there in the cinema anyway.

Good point.

Although some cameras come close none has yet capture the quality or look and feel to film. One day maybe.
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Old 12-27-2009, 03:20 PM   #57
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Blu Ray still doesnt come close in quality to what was shown in cinemas, so any "flaws" that Blu Ray might show up in things like the matte paintings were there in the cinema anyway.



Exactly. Thank you, finally someone gets it.


It irritates the hell out of me when people come out of the theater saying **** like "that was great-- can't wait to see it on Blu Ray!" Or when I hear "are older films that weren't shot on HD worth buying on Blu Ray?"


Ugggh. Blu Ray is a compressed image. Anything shot on film can be put on Blu Ray and Blu Ray will still not look as good as the film originally did.

Maybe it's the marketing blitz around Blu Ray that leave people brainwashed and really incapable of comprehending this. But it's a huge irritation for me.
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Old 12-28-2009, 03:00 AM   #58
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Exactly. Blu Ray is about moving one small step closer to the theatrical film (the 'real' version of any movie), it isnt about improving anything or changing anything.

Im a regular on Bond boards and some people dont seem to comprehend the fact that the 60's movies can work on Blu Ray. They think that seeing old movies in HD is somehow pointless compared to new movies (despite them all using the same film and all having the same advantage in HD).

Ive also actually heard complaint that Blu Ray has made some old Bond movies "too clear" and things look fake compared to their blurry old VHS tapes... Despite the fact that the Blu Ray viewers are seeing nowhere near thew detail that people saw when seeing the movies at the cinema all those years ago.
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Exactly. Blu Ray is about moving one small step closer to the theatrical film (the 'real' version of any movie), it isnt about improving anything or changing anything.

Im a regular on Bond boards and some people dont seem to comprehend the fact that the 60's movies can work on Blu Ray. They think that seeing old movies in HD is somehow pointless compared to new movies (despite them all using the same film and all having the same advantage in HD).

Ive also actually heard complaint that Blu Ray has made some old Bond movies "too clear" and things look fake compared to their blurry old VHS tapes... Despite the fact that the Blu Ray viewers are seeing nowhere near thew detail that people saw when seeing the movies at the cinema all those years ago.

Yeah, that's one I especially don't understand. Again I think that comes down to marketing blitz though. The propaganda nonsense that Blu-Ray is the clearest image you will ever see I think fuels that delusion that it will make a film "too clear." I mean.... it's ludicrous and really makes no sense, but I can't think of how else to explain it.
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Old 12-28-2009, 04:41 PM   #60
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I still have no problem with DVDs. I don't need to super crisp and clear picture so I could see the pores on everyones' faces. I'm fine with what I have. Nothing will beat actually seeing the movie in the cinema.

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Old 12-28-2009, 04:49 PM   #61
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Please, no! I love the matte paintings in these films. I wish so much that they would still use this art form in modern film-making.
Maybe they do in some movies?

I agree. Matte paintings, miniatures, stop motion animation, puppets. A by-gone era
that is always underestimated
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Old 12-28-2009, 07:42 PM   #62
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Yeah, that's one I especially don't understand. Again I think that comes down to marketing blitz though. The propaganda nonsense that Blu-Ray is the clearest image you will ever see I think fuels that delusion that it will make a film "too clear." I mean.... it's ludicrous and really makes no sense, but I can't think of how else to explain it.


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Exactly. Blu Ray is about moving one small step closer to the theatrical film (the 'real' version of any movie), it isnt about improving anything or changing anything.

Im a regular on Bond boards and some people dont seem to comprehend the fact that the 60's movies can work on Blu Ray. They think that seeing old movies in HD is somehow pointless compared to new movies (despite them all using the same film and all having the same advantage in HD).

Ive also actually heard complaint that Blu Ray has made some old Bond movies "too clear" and things look fake compared to their blurry old VHS tapes... Despite the fact that the Blu Ray viewers are seeing nowhere near thew detail that people saw when seeing the movies at the cinema all those years ago.

Agreed... Some of the finest examples of Blu Ray are the older movies e.g. Gone With The Wind, Dr. No, 2001:ASO etc. etc. It really gives us a taste of what it would have been like to see these movies for the first time.
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Old 12-28-2009, 07:45 PM   #63
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Agreed... Some of the finest examples of Blu Ray are the older movies e.g. Gone With The Wind, Dr. No, 2001:ASO etc. etc. It really gives us a taste of what it would have been like to see these movies for the first time.


I will admit to not having seen 2001 on Blu Ray... but the stills I see look horrendous. For a 70mm image, things look awfully blurry. Looks like someone ran the image through some DNR... which is absurd considering that 70mm has incredibly fine grain.
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Old 04-01-2010, 10:30 AM   #64
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just picked up indy blu rays!!!!!!!!

i was at best buy today and picked up the indy movies on blu-ray !!!!! can't wait to start seeing them on my 50 in plasma!!!!
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Old 04-01-2010, 11:15 AM   #65
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Old 04-01-2010, 03:30 PM   #66
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i was at best buy today and picked up the indy movies on blu-ray !!!!! can't wait to start seeing them on my 50 in plasma!!!!

April Fools' Day?
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Old 04-01-2010, 03:54 PM   #67
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That would be my guess. Seems like someone here would have caught wind of it before it released to retail.
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Old 04-01-2010, 07:38 PM   #68
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That was heart-wrenchingly cruel.
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ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh you got me , april fools day!!!!!
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Well, Star Wars is coming to bluray next year. Can Indy be far behind....?
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On Saturday, the studio announced that it will release all six live-action “Star Wars” features on Blu-ray DVD in fall 2011. A boxed set containing the Blu-ray versions of the movies, from 1977’s “Star Wars” through the final 2005 prequel, “Star Wars: Episode III — Revenge of the Sith,” will mark the first time the films have been offered in a high-definition home format, and will include documentary features and previously unseen footage.
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“We’ve been wanting to do it as soon as we possibly could, but we just wanted to do it when enough people would be able to buy it and see it,” Mr. Lucas said on Friday from the Star Wars Celebration V convention in Orlando, Fla.

When the original “Star Wars” movies were released on VHS in the early 1980s, Mr. Lucas said, sales were slow at first.

“We came out with ‘Star Wars’ right at the beginning of VHS,” he said, “and we sold 300,000 copies.” Within a few years, he added, “they were selling 1 million, 2 million, 10 million.”

“So we learned from that experience that if you’re too early in the marketplace, there’s just not enough demand for it,” he said.
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Old 08-15-2010, 09:02 PM   #71
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Well, Star Wars is coming to bluray next year. Can Indy be far behind....?

I believe we are close to seeing the first three films go to blu-ray ... definitely ready for them. Crystal Skull looks/sounds amazing on Blu-ray

great board! I've been lurking for a few weeks now. glad I stumbled across it.
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Old 08-16-2010, 01:40 AM   #72
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I believe we are close to seeing the first three films go to blu-ray ... definitely ready for them. Crystal Skull looks/sounds amazing on Blu-ray

Then it looks like it's time to invest in some new 'blue' technology.

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I believe we are close to seeing the first three films go to blu-ray ... definitely ready for them. Crystal Skull looks/sounds amazing on Blu-ray

great board! I've been lurking for a few weeks now. glad I stumbled across it.

I hope we're close to a blu-ray release. The Star Wars BD announcement last week definitely gives me hope. Who knows how or if Indy V will impact the release as well. The KOTCS blu-ray is holding me over for now. The trilogy DVD looks great, but I can only imagine how much better it will look and sound on BD. I'll pick them up on release morning just as I did with the DVD's in '03. I can't wait.
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I hope we're close to a blu-ray release. The Star Wars BD announcement last week definitely gives me hope. Who knows how or if Indy V will impact the release as well. The KOTCS blu-ray is holding me over for now. The trilogy DVD looks great, but I can only imagine how much better it will look and sound on BD. I'll pick them up on release morning just as I did with the DVD's in '03. I can't wait.



i hope we hear news about its release by christmas for a june release for the 30th anniversary.
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Old 08-24-2010, 03:14 PM   #75
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i hope we hear news about its release by christmas for a june release for the 30th anniversary.

Man, that would be great. I'd much rather see a BD release coincide with the Raiders anniversary than an Indy V theatrical release.
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