Atlantis?

"You want to know where Atlantis is? You're standing on it!"

IMO, Atlantis is just a great story, but that doesn't detract from it all. It can stand on its own without all the hokey truth stuff.

I think a summary of Plato's original works on Atlantis would be good here, but I don't know enough about them to explain myself.

Tying together the stories of Atlantis and Noah's Ark is an interesting idea. I'm surprised no one's thought of it before. Or maybe they have and I just never heard of if.

Tennessee R said:

So, that could mean that the flood of Noah's time (Say in 1050) caused the disaster of Atlantis, then a bit later, (In say 400), Plato talks about it.
Right?

By the way, I don't know if you have Private Messages active, Indy Jones 88, but I sent you one earlier.

Tennessee

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I received both messages you sent me and i sent you messages back. But it says you have not opened the messages and read them. Just letting you know so you could look at them.

Thx.
Indy_Jones88

There was a guy back in the 30's or something that was an excellent future predictor mystic person. He predicted the start and end of WW2 and got it right. He said Atlantis would rise again someday soon.

Renderking Fisk said:

Hey... with this news about finding Atlantis, are they going to start giving tours soon?

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Yes, but you have to bring your own moral compass to find it....

The tale of Atlantis appeared in two of Plato's dialogues'Timaeus',and 'Critias',written between 359 and 347BC.In these dialogues,Socrates had instructed his pupils to engage the city of Athens in a fictitious war,in order to see how that 'perfect society' would perform against a superior enemy..

Athens was pitted against a tecnologically superior,but morally bankrupt society called 'Atlantis',which the Athenians defeated.The story was used as a teaching device,to warn his students against avarice and pride.

In one of the dialogues,Plato states that Atlantis was destroyed some 9,000 years before his time,so that would eliminate the Genesis Flood as the culprit.

One reason why this story has endured for so long is because of one Ignatius Donnelly,a Minnesota Congressman,who is the father of modern Atlantis lore,and the joke is that he never met a claim about Atlantis that he did not like...and readily accept.All that stuff about the Atlanteans having rocket ships...you can thank Donnelly for that.He believed that Atlantis was the source of the world's population and culture and offered little more than misconstrued facts as proof.

Here's a new theory - the article's from Yahoo! News. It's a good read, at any rate:



Ireland Is Lost Island of Atlantis, Says Scientist

DUBLIN (Reuters) - Atlantis, the legendary island nation over whose existence controversy has raged for thousands of years, was actually Ireland, according to a new theory by a Swedish scientist.

Atlantis, the Greek philosopher Plato wrote in 360 BC, was an island in the Atlantic Ocean where an advanced civilization developed some 11,500 years ago until it was hit by a cataclysmic natural disaster and sank beneath the waves.

Geographer Ulf Erlingsson, whose book explaining his theory will be published next month, says the measurements, geography, and landscape of Atlantis as described by Plato match Ireland almost exactly.

"I am amazed no one has come up with this before, it's incredible," he told Reuters.

"Just like Atlantis, Ireland is 300 miles long, 200 miles wide, and widest across the middle. They both have a central plain surrounded by mountains.

"I've looked at geographical data from the rest of the world and of the 50 largest islands there is only one that has a plain in the middle -- Ireland."

Erlingsson believes the idea that Atlantis sank came from the fate of Dogger Bank, an isolated shoal in the North Sea, about 60 miles off the northeastern coast of England, which sank after being hit by a huge floodwave around 6,100 BC.

"I suspect that myth came from Ireland and it derives from Dogger Bank. I think the memory of Dogger Bank was probably preserved in Ireland for around 3,000 years and became mixed up with the story of Atlantis," he said.

Erlingsson links the boundaries of the Atlantic Empire, as outlined by Plato, with the geographic distribution of megalithic monuments in Europe and Northern Africa, matching Atlantis' temples with well-known burial sites at Newgrange and Knowth, north of Dublin, which pre-date the pyramids.

His book, "Atlantis from a Geographer's Perspective: Mapping the Fairy Land," calculates the probability Plato would have had access to geographical data about Ireland as 99.98 percent.

Previous theories about Atlantis have suggested it may have been around the Azores islands 900 miles west of the Portuguese coast, or in the Aegean sea. Others locate it solely in the long-decayed brain of Plato.

I don't know if I like that theory

Atlantis: Neolithic Britain?

Lots of Atlantis books, websites, theories out there ...

One of the most recent, methodical, and interesting (to me) is the book Atlantis of the West by Paul Dunbavin. New York: Carroll & Graf, 2003. The 2003 revised edition is available in oversized paperback for US$14, probably a bit less on Amazon.

Most of this book is a detailed discussion of when and how such a catastrophic event (sufficient to suddenly raise sea levels) could have occurred. The mechanics of this, together with a search through multicultural histories for evidence of same at a time suitable for Atlantis, constitute most of this book.

It is only later in the text that PD gets around to his theory that a pre-catastrophic neolithic Britain might have been Atlantis. Because of the shelf areas around Britain and Ireland, including within the Irish Sea between them, a slight lowering of the sea level creates a single island with much the same features as Plato described.

Well, says the reader, so where are the ruins, the fancy city, etc.? Possibly below in the Irish Sea, as PD recounts sonographs suggesting that unusual structures may be down there, but apparently the area is off-limits due to UK national security policies.

Anyway, a very interesting read and a surprisingly good case made. I was originally a bit skeptical, because everyone would like the prestige of Atlantis in his backyard. But PD's discussion seems a pretty good one.

Michael Aquino

"Lost Island of Atlantis - Long Island?"
"Atlantis found in Hawaii?"
"The Lost Continent - Indonesia?"

Just wait... in a few years...

When Atlantis sank, the survivors became Finns. It's obvious. Look at the level of technology of this country, then check the Finns' general nature: it's out of this world. And there is still not one-hundred percent certain theory of the origin of this people. Draw the conclusions.

Besides, it would be a perfect cover since no one believed it.