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Old 08-18-2005, 02:35 AM   #76
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I quite like 'Master and Commander: the far side of the world', as I'm a naval nut
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Old 08-18-2005, 10:50 AM   #77
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I like this one movie called all Quiet on the Western Front . . .
has that been mentioned?
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Old 08-18-2005, 10:51 AM   #78
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Solo han, I just saw your post, dude Red Dawn was a favorite movie of mine in High School that is a great flick!
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Old 08-18-2005, 10:53 AM   #79
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I quite like 'Master and Commander: the far side of the world', as I'm a naval nut

That was a good film. I forgot to mention it earlier.
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Old 08-19-2005, 01:01 AM   #80
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Solo han, I just saw your post, dude Red Dawn was a favorite movie of mine in High School that is a great flick!
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Old 08-23-2005, 01:47 AM   #81
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Has anyone seen The Thin Red Line?
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Old 08-23-2005, 03:18 AM   #82
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yes. and all quiet on the western front.
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Old 08-23-2005, 09:53 AM   #83
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Has anyone seen The Thin Red Line?

Yes, great movie. I also like Enemy At the Gates too.
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Old 08-24-2005, 05:15 AM   #84
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The Guns of Navaronne ruined my life. I have drawn combat pay in two conflicts since seeing it.

Particularly good is the sequence when Anthony Quinn appears to turn coward.
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Old 08-24-2005, 08:09 AM   #85
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Saving Private Ryan!!!

Glory is my favorite!
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Old 08-24-2005, 08:12 AM   #86
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Since limited time to edit is among the other "retentive" policies around here, I'm forced to do a second post to provide a graphic rather edit the graphic into my original post.

Control, control, we must control our posters! Who knows what posters might do if we didn't channel their efforts with our every last iota of energy.
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Old 08-24-2005, 08:23 AM   #87
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Since limited time to edit is among the other "retentive" policies around here, I'm forced to do a second post to provide a graphic rather edit the graphic into my original post.

Control, control, we must control our posters! Who knows what posters might do if we didn't channel their efforts with our every last iota of energy.

if everyone had your self control, perhaps we would be able to extend the time available for editing.
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Old 08-24-2005, 10:36 AM   #88
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If I was going to pick a war movie that really stood out for me, I would be most tempted to choose Glory. There are so many aspects of that film that stand out: the struggle of the 54th to be viewed as a legitimate fighting unit, the clash of cultures, the courage of the men and their commander...a lot of outstanding material, well-acted and directed throughout. For me, it almost belongs amongst the "Most Inspirational" films being discussed elsewhere on these boards. A close second would be Saving Private Ryan. I had already been exposed to a great deal of WWII history, primarily through Stephen Ambrose's work, prior to seeing the movie, but the film really brought the conflict and the sacrifices of those involved to life, and increased my appreciation for our soldiers' service.

With regard to films that address the Vietnam Conflict, I've always thought well of Full Metal Jacket, even though it's a difficult movie for me to watch. My father, who served in Vietnam, indicated that Jacket captured the emotional "feel" of the war better than anything else he'd seen on film. I've also always had high regard for Hamburger Hill, which in my perception has never received the attention that it deserved. The performances in the movie are quite good, and it really presents a strong, visceral picture of a major infantry engagement in Vietnam. It's another one that isn't easy to sit through, but it will give you a greater respect for the courage of the soldiers involved.
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Old 08-24-2005, 09:10 PM   #89
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If I was going to pick a war movie that really stood out for me, I would be most tempted to choose Glory. There are so many aspects of that film that stand out: the struggle of the 54th to be viewed as a legitimate fighting unit, the clash of cultures, the courage of the men and their commander...a lot of outstanding material, well-acted and directed throughout. For me, it almost belongs amongst the "Most Inspirational" films being discussed elsewhere on these boards. A close second would be Saving Private Ryan. I had already been exposed to a great deal of WWII history, primarily through Stephen Ambrose's work, prior to seeing the movie, but the film really brought the conflict and the sacrifices of those involved to life, and increased my appreciation for our soldiers' service.

With regard to films that address the Vietnam Conflict, I've always thought well of Full Metal Jacket, even though it's a difficult movie for me to watch. My father, who served in Vietnam, indicated that Jacket captured the emotional "feel" of the war better than anything else he'd seen on film. I've also always had high regard for Hamburger Hill, which in my perception has never received the attention that it deserved. The performances in the movie are quite good, and it really presents a strong, visceral picture of a major infantry engagement in Vietnam. It's another one that isn't easy to sit through, but it will give you a greater respect for the courage of the soldiers involved.

The dramatic music in Hamburger Hill sucked but the movie was awsome!
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Old 08-29-2005, 09:07 AM   #90
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has someone mentioned?

Force 10 from Navarone.

That was a great war movie.
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Old 08-29-2005, 09:39 AM   #91
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The dramatic music in Hamburger Hill sucked...

"Where Eagles Dare" has the best soundtrack for a war movie.
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Old 09-02-2005, 04:04 AM   #92
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"Force 10" was O.K. I saw it in the theatre. Harrison Ford and Barbara Bach.
One that I really enjoy watching again and again is "A Bridge Too Far".
(Saw that one in the theatre, too). Such a large production with many
interesting vignettes, plus I knew a man who fought at Nijmegen bridge
so I guess there's some personal connection there for me.

Watch that one and then follow it with "Bridge at Remagen". They go well
with each other, back-to-back, and not just for historical reasons.
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Old 09-11-2005, 10:48 PM   #93
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I finally got a chance to see "The Great Raid" today and it's fantastic. Definitely see this movie if you get the chance because the movie is great and it's historically accurate too. It's one of the best war movies I've seen in a long time.
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Old 09-13-2005, 06:57 PM   #94
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I think Schindler's List is the best war movie!
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Old 09-14-2005, 01:09 AM   #95
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If you want war, then check out the animated movie, based on the book Animal Farm. I liked it alot when I was a kid. It is totally nucking futs.
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Old 10-12-2005, 03:23 PM   #96
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Saving Private Ryan was a fine movie, American Soliders have a soft spot for German soliders in history, they have never been effective against us. When the British hired them to fight in our first war, we well killed them. WWI was no excpetion, Hell, the US Marines were given the highest miltary honor byt he Franch for the way we got rid of the suckers. Then a few years later, we stomped on them again in Europe, Africa, hell you gotta love the people you can always beet on!. . .


"They have never been effective against us."

You've got to be kidding. Ever heard of the Lost Battalion? Huertgen? Kasserine Pass? What about the Germans in the Revwar who pretty much consistently kicked our butts?

Give me a break... our losses in WW1 alone were massive for an army that only served in the field about seven months, and they were all inflicted by Austro-Hungarian and German troops...

Yeesh.

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Old 10-12-2005, 04:24 PM   #97
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Sure any Armies will win battles, but in war it is the winner that matters
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Old 10-12-2005, 07:49 PM   #98
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Sure any Armies will win battles, but in war it is the winner that matters

Amen to that.
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Old 10-12-2005, 09:02 PM   #99
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Amen to that.

In the 1980s, General Ngo Nguyen Giap of the North Vietnamese Army met the American general Westmoreland. Westmoreland and Giap had a discussion about the war, and the two began a (polite) debate about their waging of the war.

General Westmoreland commented that Giap's troops had consistently been beaten in the field by American soldiers. There were few outright decisive victories by the PAVN, and even then, those had generally been reversed by counter-offensives. "So basically," said Westmoreland, "regardless of the verdict of history, we won every battle..."

"Yes, you did," said Giap, "And we still won the war."

Anyway,

I never said that Americans didn't win WW2 or beat the Germans in their wars against them. I was responding to the idea that the Germans were "totally ineffective" against the Americans, which also presupposes (probably unintentionally) that the US won WW2 for the Allies singlehandedly (which is blatantly false).

Of course, the Germans won most of the significant battles of WW1, but ultimately lost the war.

As for records of wars won and lost, the US and German records are very interesting. Germany (or rather, what would become a united Germany beginning in the 1850s)won four major declared wars (the Second Schleiswig-Holstein War, the Austro-Prussian War, the German Civil War, and the Franco-Prussian War. One could also make an argument for the war against Russia in WW1, since the Germans considered it a separate conflict).

The Germans have lost two major declared wars (the First and Second World Wars).

The U.S. has won four major declared wars (The Mexican-American War, the Spanish-American War, the First World War, and the Second World War), drawn two declared wars and a single undeclared war (the Barbary Coast War and the War of 1812, along with Korea), and lost (at least) two major undeclared wars (the Seminole War and Vietnam).

It would take a while to calculate "police actions" (ie: minor conflicts), but I would guess that the two are about even in that category, with a slight edge to Germany which generally decisively defeated its colonial opponents (ie: the Wahehe War).

Anyway, pretty interesting from an historical perspective.

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Here's my favorite war movies...

Saving Private Ryan
We Were Soldiers
Full Metal Jacket
Glory
The Patriot
Paths to Glory
Bridge Over the River Kiwai
Tora! Tora! Tora!
Sands of Iwo Jima
To Hell and Back
Black Hawk Down
The Great Escape
Windtalkers
Enemy At the Gates
Thin Red Line
Downfall
Band of Brothers
Pearl Harbor
The Green Berets
Apocalypse Now
Platoon
Hambuger Hill
MASH
Run Silent Run Deep
U-571
Hunt for Red October
The Good, The Bad and The Ugly

Downfall (incase you don't know) talks about the collapse of the Nazi Party and the death of Hitler. Very good movie!
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