herr gruber
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I know this is gonna be a popular answer. Speedboats... However, my prize goes to the Young Indy sequence in LC. Tiresome explanation of the character that wasn't necessary. (IMO)
herr gruber said:I know this is gonna be a popular answer. Speedboats... However, my prize goes to the Young Indy sequence in LC. Tiresome explanation of the character that wasn't necessary. (IMO)
What I like about TOD and LC is that they generate richer opinions in people than the unanimous Raiders.ResidentAlien said:Just one? How about all of Last Crusade?
Kingsley said:What I like about TOD and LC is that they generate richer opinions in people than the unanimous Raiders.
Joe Brody said:Donovan's study in Last Crusade -- heavy-handed exposition, soap-opera quality set, clumsy movement -- and it's boring.
Attila the Professor said:Heh, just goes to show how warped I am...that somehow stands as a scene I count among my favorites. (This is probably tied into how quotable it is, for a certain type of quoter.)
Joe Brody said:I think the Donovan character gets stronger as the film goes on -- but there's nothing (tension or otherwise) between Indy and Donovan in that scene. There's some good dialogue -- but that's it.
Plus, think back to our discussion on the motorcyle chase -- I'm a slave to the visuals.
Attila the Professor said:This is true. As an actor, I'm a dialogue man, through and through.
Although, I'll offer up some defense: Donovan, the benign art collector, ought to be a bit of a milquetoast, so as to make the revelation of his true colors so much more out of left field. He seems like a man who would have engaging cocktail parties in his elegant penthouse, perhaps like a man who "would sell his mother for an Estruscan vase" (one gets the feeling that Walter neglects his guests on a regular basis), but not at all one who "would sell his country and his soul to the slime of humanity." Even the line that is called back to, about not trusting anyone, really doesn't telegraph anything at the time. The even kept him off of the poster, except for a small image of him standing on the sideboard of the one car. It's all to justify that rumble of thunder, really.
ResidentAlien said:Just one? How about all of Last Crusade? A blunder straight through. Though I must agree that the Young Indy scene is particularly awful and for exactly the same reason that was already stated. You kill the myth of the character by introducing all this back-story. He's no longer a mysterious figure but instead has a past rooted in reality. Same problem with introducing his father. Ugh.
deckard24 said:As entertaining as LC can be at times, this is spot on!
The young Indy stuff is awful in my book. I didn't like as a kid when I saw it the first time in the theater, and I still feel the same way!