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Old 12-30-2011, 05:52 PM   #26
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They're fun for a little while as you watch them wriggle. But a devil of job getting them back in the can when they start eating the furniture.
Those are some Dune sized worms!
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Old 12-30-2011, 11:00 PM   #27
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Those are some Dune sized worms!

Sonic vibrations bring them to the surface. Only when they pop their head above the surface they often can't remember what it was they heard or why they're here.
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Old 12-31-2011, 01:02 AM   #28
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I dreaded this day. I have also seen Plinkett's prequel reviews, and though he has good points about many of their flaws, I've rewatched the entire saga myself, and found the prequels to be much more coherent and thought-provoking than ever (it sure helps that me and AOTC Anakin both suffer from heart-aching crushes on women hopelessly out of their league...so I can sympathize much more now. Difference is, Anakin DOES get the girl, which is totally impossible in my case).

Anyways, sorry for the off-topic self-projection tangent there.

So, I definitely respect the guy, and his reviews are admittedly quite hilarious. But I knew, deep in my heart, that someday he would turn his sword toward KOTCS, and drive the blade deep through its heart. So, I shall watch the review, and see just how fatal the wound is. But I'm not looking forward to it. It's kinda like anticipating the vicious castration of a close friend that other people tend to deeply dislike, but you find to be a swell guy.

And speaking of swell guys, give The Man a break. His points are valid. I may not agree with the overall assessment, but at least he's an articulate, well-read hater. They DO exist, y'know...
Agreed! It seems that it was inevitable. You might watch the review, but I'm personally fed up with mr. Plinkett. It's not funny any more if it even was before. I've tended to stay away from this thread, but you just preached to the choir on the situation, so I have to say... agreed! I've dreaded this review.
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Old 12-31-2011, 08:55 PM   #29
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Agreed! It seems that it was inevitable. You might watch the review, but I'm personally fed up with mr. Plinkett. It's not funny any more if it even was before. I've tended to stay away from this thread, but you just preached to the choir on the situation, so I have to say... agreed! I've dreaded this review.

United by dread...how interesting...
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Old 01-01-2012, 01:17 AM   #30
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Loved the review, as I did the prequels. I can't even watch those movies any more and this brought up some very interesting points. Once again, I found myself laughing, almost to tears.
Bravo.
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Loved the review, as I did the prequels. I can't even watch those movies any more and this brought up some very interesting points. Once again, I found myself laughing, almost to tears.
Bravo.
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Old 01-01-2012, 01:26 PM   #32
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Man, Plinketts reviews are just way way too long. I don't find him very funny anyway but the damn review is as long as the movie and it's just tedious to try and watch. His voice really grates on my nerves too.
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Old 01-02-2012, 09:18 AM   #33
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Man, Plinketts reviews are just way way too long. I don't find him very funny anyway but the damn review is as long as the movie and it's just tedious to try and watch. His voice really grates on my nerves too.

Kingdom was an hour? Huh. I didn't realize. I guess IMDB was wrong.

And his voice is SUPPOSED to grate on your nerves.

Some of you guys really just don't "get" it.
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Old 01-02-2012, 01:09 PM   #34
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Kingdom was an hour? Huh. I didn't realize. I guess IMDB was wrong.

And his voice is SUPPOSED to grate on your nerves.

Some of you guys really just don't "get" it.


Wow, taking it way too literally about the length of the review and the film. The point is an hour is approaching the length of an actual feature film. No review of any movie needs to be an hour long. I don't want too watch anyone reviewing anything for an hour straight.

As far as the Voice, mabye if the review was 15 or 20 minutes I could take it but for an hour?

The Some of you guys really just don't "get" it. quote is odd too.
Don't get what exactly? So if I don't like something that you like am I just not getting it?
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Old 01-02-2012, 02:39 PM   #35
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Wow, taking it way too literally about the length of the review and the film. The point is an hour is approaching the length of an actual feature film. No review of any movie needs to be an hour long. I don't want too watch anyone reviewing anything for an hour straight.

As far as the Voice, mabye if the review was 15 or 20 minutes I could take it but for an hour?

The Some of you guys really just don't "get" it. quote is odd too.
Don't get what exactly? So if I don't like something that you like am I just not getting it?

Not liking something is one thing. Not thinking it's funny is quite another. You say that his voice is grating as if that weren't the intent.
That, to me, says you didn't "get it."

I, personally, found the reviews of the prequels IMMENSELY more enjoyable than the films themselves. I have select friends that I quote the reviews with. They're hilarious and pretty ingenious. He makes some GREAT points in between the silliness.

I enjoy KOTCS for what it is but it's far from a great film and pales in comparison to the others. It's quite hard to argue with the points he brings up.
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Old 01-02-2012, 03:58 PM   #36
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I, personally, found the reviews of the prequels IMMENSELY more enjoyable than the films themselves.

What?!
Did I read this correctly?!
If so...
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Old 01-02-2012, 05:03 PM   #37
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What?!
Did I read this correctly?!
If so...

You did. The Star Wars prequels are a joke. I can't even bring myself to watch them anymore. My hatred for them has only grown over the years...and his reviews are quite an amusing way to point out their glaring flaws.
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Old 01-02-2012, 05:23 PM   #38
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You did. The Star Wars prequels are a joke. I can't even bring myself to watch them anymore. My hatred for them has only grown over the years...and his reviews are quite an amusing way to point out their glaring flaws.

It seems that I didn't read it correctly.
I thought you were implying that this person made reviews to the 'prequels' of KotCS (Which would be the original trilogy) and that you liked said reviews better than the films.

*Inserts foot in mouth*
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Old 01-02-2012, 06:19 PM   #39
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It seems that I didn't read it correctly.
I thought you were implying that this person made reviews to the 'prequels' of KotCS (Which would be the original trilogy) and that you liked said reviews better than the films.

*Inserts foot in mouth*

As far as I know, "the prequels" is and always does refer to PM/AOTC/ROTS. I thought that was commonly understood internet lingo.
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Old 04-02-2014, 12:24 PM   #40
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Red Letter Media takes their turn at KOCS: Mr. Plinkett's Review

If you've seen the hilarious and scathing reviews by the fictitious Mr. Plinkett of the Star Wars prequels, you'll enjoy this. But be warned, it's not pretty....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zphhfHon_I

Lot of reasonable criticism in there, nothing new that people haven't said already by and large. Just as with the SW prequels, just because something CAN be done doesn't mean it SHOULD be done. Have to agree. My feelings about this film haven't abated at all.
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Old 04-02-2014, 01:48 PM   #41
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Old 04-02-2014, 02:04 PM   #42
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I haven't watched this, but I've always found these online eviscerations to be obnoxious, and they end up prompting me to come to the film's defense because they tend to focus on the wrong things. The problems that Crystal Skull has are rarely the ones brought up on forums and snarky Youtube videos.

There's an endlessly parroted laundry list of damning "flaws" that gets rattled off: CGI, Shia, aliens, flying fridges, prairie dogs. But the movie's real problems aren't those things.
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Old 04-03-2014, 04:52 AM   #43
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I haven't watched this, but I've always found these online eviscerations to be obnoxious, and they end up prompting me to come to the film's defense because they tend to focus on the wrong things. The problems that Crystal Skull has are rarely the ones brought up on forums and snarky Youtube videos.

There's an endlessly parroted laundry list of damning "flaws" that gets rattled off: CGI, Shia, aliens, flying fridges, prairie dogs. But the movie's real problems aren't those things.

If you watch the video, I think you'll find that it DOES focus on the real problems. Red Letter Media's got a pretty good track record on that count, IMHO - its dissection of the Star Wars prequels was spot-on - though you might find the delivery a little obnoxious.
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Old 04-03-2014, 12:21 PM   #44
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If you watch the video, I think you'll find that it DOES focus on the real problems. Red Letter Media's got a pretty good track record on that count, IMHO - its dissection of the Star Wars prequels was spot-on - though you might find the delivery a little obnoxious.

Nah, Udvarnoky is right on this. I've gotten completely fed up with RLM's reviews precisely because they are the most obnoxious form of "Accentuate the Negative". That, and their completely blatant condescension and sometimes outright mocking of people that appreciate the good things in the prequels. To paraphrase a nice line, "we're either with them, or we're their enemy." They're the epitome of smug, pompous snob hater culture, so I'm done with them.

Any good points they have (and I fully admit, they DID have some absolutely true points to make) are drowned in a sea of arrogance and snide contempt.
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Old 04-03-2014, 12:33 PM   #45
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The Star Wars prequels are a meaningless frame of reference to me. I saw Phantom Menace in the theater, thought it was okay, and never went to see the others, although I'm sure I've cumulatively watched Episodes 2 and 3 by now from piecemeal TV viewings.

I'm apathetic towards Star Wars. I liked them as a kid, but I didn't grow up to have super strong feelings about them one way or another. When it came to Lucasfilm, I always was more of an Indiana Jones guy, myself. I don't really have any interest in the new Star Wars films, and that's coming from someone expecting them to be good.

I'd probably be more excited if they revived Willow, believe it or not. Not that the first movie was great, but that's a world with more justification for further installments to me, plus, I want more Warwick Davis.
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Old 04-03-2014, 01:41 PM   #46
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Nah, Udvarnoky is right on this. I've gotten completely fed up with RLM's reviews precisely because they are the most obnoxious form of "Accentuate the Negative". That, and their completely blatant condescension and sometimes outright mocking of people that appreciate the good things in the prequels. To paraphrase a nice line, "we're either with them, or we're their enemy." They're the epitome of smug, pompous snob hater culture, so I'm done with them.

Any good points they have (and I fully admit, they DID have some absolutely true points to make) are drowned in a sea of arrogance and snide contempt.

The only issues I have are the deeply disgusting and misogynistic humor that is inserted for no reason. The KOTCS one thankfully doesn't have actual shots of captured women, but it has the most disgusting, needless visual joke that I've seen.

That said, I've never gotten the snobbery you're describing here. In fact, in just about every case (prequels aside), they go to lengths to talk about the things they DID like.

In the KOTCS one, he defends the Mutt character, talks about his fondness for the diner scene and motorcycle chase and spends a good five minutes talking about what he thinks of as the movie's few good points.

Aside from the awful humor, I always found the tone cheerful and inclusive and from the perspective of a fan - someone who truly WANTS to like these movies but can't.
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The only issues I have are the deeply disgusting and misogynistic humor that is inserted for no reason. The KOTCS one thankfully doesn't have actual shots of captured women, but it has the most disgusting, needless visual joke that I've seen.

That said, I've never gotten the snobbery you're describing here. In fact, in just about every case (prequels aside), they go to lengths to talk about the things they DID like.

In the KOTCS one, he defends the Mutt character, talks about his fondness for the diner scene and motorcycle chase and spends a good five minutes talking about what he thinks of as the movie's few good points.

Aside from the awful humor, I always found the tone cheerful and inclusive and from the perspective of a fan - someone who truly WANTS to like these movies but can't.

I will give them credit for the KOTCS one, that was more fair and not so much "urggh, this is total crap" but more "dang it, it could have been so much more." I find snobbery and condescension in their remarks from the prequel reviews where they mock people that like some aspects of them, and act like the movies are totally iredeemable garbage. And in their Half in the Bag videos, there's a heavy implication that they just don't take movies seriously, acting like they're just fodder for their snide sense of humor. This devolves into them nitpicking beyond belief. It's the weird combo of pretentiousness AND lazy lack of respect for the medium that angers me.
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Old 04-05-2014, 01:03 AM   #48
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I will give them credit for the KOTCS one, that was more fair and not so much "urggh, this is total crap" but more "dang it, it could have been so much more." I find snobbery and condescension in their remarks from the prequel reviews where they mock people that like some aspects of them, and act like the movies are totally iredeemable garbage. And in their Half in the Bag videos, there's a heavy implication that they just don't take movies seriously, acting like they're just fodder for their snide sense of humor. This devolves into them nitpicking beyond belief. It's the weird combo of pretentiousness AND lazy lack of respect for the medium that angers me.

You're merely sounding like a butthurt Star Wars prequel fan. There's enough self-deprecation in these videos to choke a dinosaur, and your accusations that they "have no respect for the medium" is baffling to me. But as you said, they are polarizing, particularly with the Star Wars prequels. I'm with Udvarnoky in that I was always more of an Indiana Jones fan than a Star Wars fan, and experienced apathy when seeing the prequel movies in theater rather than the "personal betrayal" that many fans felt. But I can definitely appreciate the Plinkett reviews nevertheless.
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While I in the past used RLM's videos to help me sleep, I think they nitpick films way too much. The Prequels aren't good films, merely guilty pleasures, but they're not the worst films ever, either. And that's RLM's problem. Anything they don't like they nitpick to death and make it seem like the worst film ever. KOTCS wasn't as good as the original films but it was a hell of a lot better than the prequels. I'd watch KOTCS over any Mummy, Lara Croft or National Treasure film.
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Given how much we've picked apart the movie ourselves, I found the review pretty typical of just reading through numerous threads here!

The most interesting point I had not previously heard was his take on the opening scene. Like most here, I felt that at least up until the fridge the opening scene was terrific and unassailable. I now agree that it likely did give us a little bit too close a look at the rest of the movie. We got too much information up front so there was less to discover later.

Personally I hadn't considered that too little was revealed later on, things just felt a bit off. Reconsidering his point here, I think he's spot-on.
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