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Old 07-09-2007, 09:31 PM   #1
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What happened to Barnett College?

According to the official Indiana Jones website, Indy moved from Marshall to Barnett in 1937. Did he move back to Marshall at some point, or are we just supposed to forget that he ever left? (My apologies if this has already been discussed).
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Old 07-09-2007, 09:50 PM   #2
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I'm pretty sure he moved to Zimbabwe for a long time. Right?
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yah how did he get back to marshall?????
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Old 07-09-2007, 11:45 PM   #4
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I guess because they shot somewhere else in Crusade, they changed it. But now they've noted the similarities between Yale and UOP and moved him back.
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Old 07-10-2007, 12:36 AM   #5
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Yeah, I'm by no means a continuity freak, but this seems to suggest a bit of sloppiness unless there's a reason for it. Of course, this is partly my sentimental feelings about Barnett College from the old Last Crusade graphic adventure.

If they don't offer any explanation, I'll explain it away as Indy having been a visiting professor at Barnett College. That would be reasonable enough.
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Old 07-10-2007, 07:43 AM   #6
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Ooh, I like the "visiting professor" idea.
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Old 07-10-2007, 08:35 AM   #7
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Since when have people worked in same place for all their life? First you teach in one place, then you get a job in other, then you get back to teaching in the place you were before. Why do we need an explanation more complicated than that?

Also, Indy had his own study (and TA) in LC. Is that usual for professors who are just visiting?

And oh yeah, he was still at Barnett in FoA (which takes place a year after LC and is very much canon). So much for "visiting professor" theory.
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Old 07-10-2007, 08:35 AM   #8
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I thought Marshall fired him. See the following link:

http://www.mcsweeneys.net/2006/10/10bryan.html
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Old 07-10-2007, 01:28 PM   #9
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Since when have people worked in same place for all their life? First you teach in one place, then you get a job in other, then you get back to teaching in the place you were before. Why do we need an explanation more complicated than that?
I think it's pretty rare for a professor to leave a school and then come back later (unless it's a "visiting" professor situation).
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Old 07-10-2007, 01:50 PM   #10
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It's actually not that uncommon at the colleges I've been at. A professor will sometimes leave for a variety of reasons for another institution and then either apply to be reinstated at the old school or the administration will beg him to return which is probably what happened with Dr. Jones. Maybe Marcus Brody died and he chose to return to Marshall to carry on his work or something like that.
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Old 07-10-2007, 02:37 PM   #11
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Did Barnett stick him in the narrow boiler room with all the archaeology department's worthless finds, or was the stuff on the shelves what Indy had found over the previous year? (In the adventure games set at Barnett, Indy could look around his office and reminisce, so did he haul all 'his' loot over from Marshall?)
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Old 07-10-2007, 06:04 PM   #12
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Since when have people worked in same place for all their life? First you teach in one place, then you get a job in other, then you get back to teaching in the place you were before. Why do we need an explanation more complicated than that?

Also, Indy had his own study (and TA) in LC. Is that usual for professors who are just visiting?

And oh yeah, he was still at Barnett in FoA (which takes place a year after LC and is very much canon). So much for "visiting professor" theory.

Good point on his office and the TA, and, I suppose, for FoA, as entirely slipped my mind during my initial post that Barnett was the college in the game.

I suppose one thing that has slipped my mind lately in a number of posts about how Indy isn't the model professor, since he's constantly traveling around the world at a moment's notice, is that he is apparently world-renowned, with Chatter Lal being the most obvious example of this. Taking this in mind, Dr. Jones would be quite a get as a rock star professor, and Barnett conceivably was able to make Indy an offer that he found appealing, including a huge office.

FoA places Barnett as somewhere near Syracuse, New York (http://www.gameology.org/screenshots/indiana_jones_map), so that distance from the big city, and, for that matter, his father post-reconciliation, who as far as we know lived in Princeton, makes a return to the NYC area easily conceivable. And hence re-enters Marshall College, conveniently located in Connecticut and eager to rehire a professor with some star power, despite occasional dereliction of his duty.
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Old 07-10-2007, 07:55 PM   #13
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Since when have people worked in same place for all their life? First you teach in one place, then you get a job in other, then you get back to teaching in the place you were before. Why do we need an explanation more complicated than that?

Also, Indy had his own study (and TA) in LC. Is that usual for professors who are just visiting?

And oh yeah, he was still at Barnett in FoA (which takes place a year after LC and is very much canon). So much for "visiting professor" theory.

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Good point on his office and the TA...
I suppose one thing that has slipped my mind lately in a number of posts about how Indy isn't the model professor, since he's constantly traveling around the world at a moment's notice, is that he is apparently world-renowned, with Chatter Lal being the most obvious example of this. Taking this in mind, Dr. Jones would be quite a get as a rock star professor, and Barnett conceivably was able to make Indy an offer that he found appealing, including a huge office.

At my school, Burt Reynolds comes and teaches the film students for a couple weeks at the beginning of the semester. They give him an office, a TA, and a parking space close the school (something they don't give teachers who work there year round). Now, this may be just because he is Burt Reynolds and he went to our school (didn't graduate from there, but he did go there), and the film school feels lucky to be able to get him, but if that is the case, then I suppose that is conceivable, if Indy does have "rock star status" around the world, that a school would give him an office and a TA even if he was teaching there only for a brief time.

I post all this, and I just realized how little I cared about what college he teaches at. I didn't even know he was at two different schools in Raiders and Last Crusade.
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Old 07-10-2007, 08:31 PM   #14
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I always thought it was Marcus Brody's fault that caused Indy to leave Barnett -- something to do with a young co-ed that caught Brody's eye one day.

[Where's that screenshot?]
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I always thought it was Marcus Brody's fault that caused Indy to leave Barnett -- something to do with a young co-ed that caught Brody's eye one day.

[Where's that screenshot?]

Don't know where the screenshot might be, but that was back in the Marshall College days of Raiders.
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Old 07-10-2007, 09:02 PM   #16
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You got me -- I wasn't paying attention.
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Old 07-11-2007, 09:42 AM   #17
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Who said that Indy moved from College to College? The official Site? Wow - the official Site said that Indy was married with Deidree too... *LOL*

Or that Indy fights against Vampires.... *LOL*
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Old 07-11-2007, 10:23 AM   #18
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Who said that Indy moved from College to College? The official Site? Wow - the official Site said that Indy was married with Deidree too... *LOL*

Or that Indy fights against Vampires.... *LOL*

The official site, while pretty clearly supporting canon, is not anybody's initial source. We've known they were two different colleges for quite some time now.
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The official site, while pretty clearly supporting canon, is not anybody's initial source. We've known they were two different colleges for quite some time now.
Yeah, like since, 1989?
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Old 07-11-2007, 03:58 PM   #20
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I thought Marshall fired him. See the following link:

http://www.mcsweeneys.net/2006/10/10bryan.html

wow public drunkeness , thats pretty bad ........bad dr.jones bad!!!!!
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Old 07-11-2007, 04:28 PM   #21
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Yeah, like since, 1989?

Heh, yeah, that's the one. Incidentally, the film does include the name of the college - it shows up Indy's mail.
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Old 07-12-2007, 08:09 AM   #22
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It's never mentioned in the movies that he moved from College to College. So...
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Old 07-12-2007, 09:18 AM   #23
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It's never mentioned in the movies that he moved from College to College. So...
Name "Marshall College" never appears on screen in Raiders. "Barnett College" instead is mentioned in LC. So if one decides to (personally) disregard all other sources than the movies, it is possible to convey the idea that the colleges in both Raiders and LC are one and the same (this being Barnett). He has, however, changed school for the fourth installment since we know for fact that the school in IV is called Marshall College.

There are however enough reliable secondary sources (like novelizations of both movies) that name the colleges differently and place them at different locations (CT and NY), so that leaves us with two different scenarios:

It's the same school in I and IV, but another one in III (this one being the official version).

or

It's the same school in I and III, but another one in IV (if you consider silver screen only).

But, even regarding the movies only, there is no option that it's the same school from I to IV.
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