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Old 07-20-2007, 08:29 PM   #1
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Unfound Treasures

Are there any unfound treasures in the world? Those that you know, please tell about them here.
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Old 07-21-2007, 12:14 AM   #2
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I don't know. Dig somewhere. If you find something, then there are unfound treasures. Actually, then you would have found it, making less unfound...

A non-sarcastic remark would be yes, there are some treasures that have been documented but never found. The Library of Alexandria, several Pharaohs' tombs, pirate treasure, sunken ships...really, you name it, there' s probably lots of "unfound" things. As far as specifics go, I can't personally help you. Although there is a rumor about a pirate ship off the coast of Florida that I've always been intrigued by.
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Old 07-21-2007, 11:01 AM   #3
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I lost a gold ring in the dirt once playing football.
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Old 07-21-2007, 11:16 AM   #4
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I've heard about King Solomon's Lost Mines. They're supposed to be hidden in Ethiopia. And, you can't forget about the lost Ark of the Covenant!
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Old 07-21-2007, 11:36 AM   #5
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The ark is probably in Ethiopia as well...many of you know about the temple in Axum. The other possibility is that it was destroyed. But I don't think so. It is mentioned again in Revelation...long after Solomon. If you are a believer in the Bible (or Christian) there is a theory out there that it will be returned to Israel to serve as the literal throne in the rebuilt temple.
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Old 07-21-2007, 05:11 PM   #6
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There are many Arks in Ethiopia, I' affraid. Every church there holds it's own, trully The One Ark of the Covenant. That would be a worthy quest to find out which .

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Old 07-29-2007, 05:36 PM   #7
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Lost Treasure left in the World (nazi treasure)

There is more lost treasure left in the world then you can dream. If you do your research treasure leads are not hard to find. I could list many of them. Here is a list of treasure leads from the Nazis many of you Indiana fans may enjoy. If you want more info send me a pm.

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The small villa Schloss Fuschel was owned by the foreign minister of Nazi Germany. Near the house, Joachim von Ribbentrop hid several pounds of gold coins which were recovered. Two iron boxes with over $10,000 face value in gold coins were found here after the war by a local resident. More treasure may be secreted here. High in the mountains in the area known as Ausseerland billions of dollars worth of World War II German treasure is known to have been hidden, a great deal of it said to be sunken in the icy waters of mountain lakes. In 1946, American intelligence agents found a page torn from a Nazi financial ledger listing a single cache hidden somewhere in Austria: $166,000,000 in Swiss francs, $299,000,000 in American dollars, $31,000,000,000 in gold, $3,000,000 in diamonds, $93,000,000 in stamp collections and objects of art and $5,500,000,000 in narcotics...a total value of a fantastic $37,000,000,000. So far as is known, this tremendous treasure hoard has never been found.
American fighter planes shot down a German Junker 88 on May 5, 1945 which was carrying Hitler's last mail delivery together with gold and platinum ingots. It fell on a glacier in the Alps and is said to be lying under the clear waters of Lake Atter in the Salzburg region. It has not been seen since that day.500,000,000 gold francs in Nazi-era treasure lies hidden in the area of Aussee, 37 miles from Salzburg and at the southwestern tip of two mountain lakes which are 6 miles long and traversed by a stream which is a tributary of the traun.

In July of 1959, German technicians working with ultrasonic depth finders and underwater television cameras pinpointed 16 cases in Lake Toplitz in Austria at a depth of between 38 and 44 fathoms. Several of these were brought up and found to contain perfect forgeries of British sterling notes to the value of 8,500,000 pounds. From the Nazi masters of counterfeiting, it was the major trump card for "operation Bernhardt" calculated to upset the Allied economy. Ingots of solid gold lie alongside the other watertight containers according to reliable sources, as well as additional counterfeit currency. .

Hitler's treasure of the Third Reich was dumped into Lake Toplitz near the Devil's Trashcan in the Styrian Alps. The cache includes billions in gold, gems and other valuables in addition to secret records of the Nazi party-all encased in waterproof caches. William Canaris, the Nazi intelligence chief until he fell during the 1944 General's Plot against Hitler, is supposed to have buried a hoard of treasure in the Aussee. Supposedly, it is cached in one of the mountain caves here, and contains Persian rugs, tapestries and a huge store of narcotics worth millions. On Christmas day, 1944, Gestapo chief Ernst Kaltenbrunner arrived at Alt Aussee and rented a house. Near there he buried a large number of treasure caches, including 100 pounds of gold coins, hundreds of thousands of American dollars, several chests of diamonds and other gems and a large collection of rare and priceless stamps. Buried in the gardens of the villa Kerry which he rented, American troops found almost $3,000,000 in loot - and no one knows how much more remains.

Want to know more about Slumach and the lost mine of Pitt Lake.

Listen to an mp3 of a prospector who took gold from the lost mine of Pitt lake.

The mountains of the Alt Aussee region are probably the most fertile ground for the modern treasure hunter to search for Nazi war treasure, and certainly the most dangerous. Legends and tales of hidden wealth are commonplace. Stories are of recent vintage and backed up with a great deal of historical documentation. The Allies removed ninety truckloads of the most priceless arts and treasures from the underground salt mine to safety here in 1945 - and they didn't find it all. The recovered treasure was valued at over $300,000,000 and consisted mostly of rare paintings, sculpture and other valuable artworks stolen and confiscated during World War II. The complex Nuremburg testimony disclosed that most of the Alt Aussee treasure was in the salt mine complex, "and the rest spread over the countryside".
A Nazi war treasure containing thirty-six cases of German spoils lies buried in the vicinity of Lend.A Nazi war treasure containing thirty-six cases of German spoils lies buried in the vicinity of Lend. A dying Nazi SS officer from Germany on his deathbed told of a World War II hoard worth $92,000,000 in gold bullion and gems, looted frorn the Hungarian National Bank in Budapest. Trying to take a boat loaded with the chests of gems and ingots to the safety of Vienna via the Danube River, the party was attacked by fighter planes. The treasure was jettisoned overboard in the shallower water near the mouth of the March River. The cache lies in thick mud in Austria, just 100 yards from the Czechoslavakian border.

The crash of the B-25 Bomber

Ernst Kaltenbrunner, the last commander of the dreaded Nazi SS, is said to have hidden the funds of the corps somewhere in the Black Forest when it was realized the Allies were closing in on them at the end of World War II.. In the 1940s, the citizens of Wurzberg, trapped between the retreating German army and the advancing Allies, were seen openly burying their silver and other family treasures. Many never lived to recover them. Bavaria's 1770 Robin Hood, Matthias Klostermaier plundered, sacked and robbed in the region between Augsburg and Munich. He made his headquarters in an old cave, now collapsed, in the Kuchelschlag-Wood, 28 kilometers west of Munich as well as the "Jexhof" farm, 1 kilometer north of the cave. Before he was captured and put to death, he buried his accumulated treasure somewhere in one of these two locations, or in the swamp area northeast of the cave.
The Lost Mines of Stave Lake.

It is no idle statement that when the Third Reich began to crumble in 1945, many German fanatics went about their task as advised by Hitler in December of 1944: the hiding of vast Nazi riches for future use by Fourth Reich posterity. The statement that the bulk of this huge treasure hoard came from concentration camp inmates seems to be a safe bet...that billions of dollars worth of jewelry, gold, and money was taken from the hapless Nazi victims is a gruesome, but true, fact of history.
The British army was retreating from the Nazis who had invaded Greece with 15 divisions and 900 aircraft in April of 1941 through the mountains of Thessalonika. Among the units was a truck carrying three grey boxes and two larger cases in which were packed the British Army's payroll as well as a large quantity of gold sovereigns and bullion which was entrusted to the army for evacuation by Greek banks in Thessalonike. The truck left the main column to try and cut across the mountains to the coast where Allied warships were waiting to evacuate them, but the party became trapped and they buried the treasure in a cave near Mount Siniatsikon near Kozani. They then closed the cave entrance using hand grenades. The treasure, valued today at over $2,500,000, remains buried

The mountain village of San Oreste lies north of Rome and rests at the base of Monte Soratte. The mountain is honeycombed with mine shafts. On May 3, 1944, Nazi SS troops went to Monte Sorrate and in a rock-hewn vault deep within one of its tunnels, hid a fortune worth $72,000,000. The cache consisted of 60 tons of gold bullion siezed by the Germans from the National Bank of Italy, plus a huge amount of jewelry looted by the Nazis from Rome's Jewish community. After depositing the treasure deep in the mountain, they then buried it under thousands of tons of rock with a huge explosion. The lone survivor of this burial escaped only to be sought out and killed later on. Numerous treasure expeditions have sought this hoard without success

A World War II Nazi treasure cache, consisting of: chests containing gold, jewels and three oil paintings by the artist Van Dyck, and valued at more than 500,000,000 francs are secreted on one of the islands of the Marquessas Archipelago in the Pacific Ocean. The German submarine U-435 lies sunken offshore of the treasure location

In a wooded forest called Mauervald, during World War II, the German SS buried thousands of land mines throughout the area. Somewhere in this maze was the secret entrance to the Wolfschanze, or Wolf's Den, the eastern front headquarters of Adolph Hitler. It is said that there is a secret "bank" in this region where an immense Nazi treasure of immense value still lies hidden containing gold, diamonds, rubies, emeralds, sapphires, platinum - loot from thousands of churches, museums and banks in every occupied country and vast riches accumulated from millions of concentration camp victims. The secret underground city also is said to have included a mint.
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Old 07-29-2007, 10:13 PM   #8
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Old 07-30-2007, 02:00 PM   #9
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Hey,

Lets just say I have been running my own site about lost treasure and thats where these leads come from. I didnt just google it and post it here. Thought some would find it interesting but I guess not.

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Old 08-02-2007, 02:10 AM   #10
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If you are looking for the greatest treasures and ambitions of the nazis you have to know more about the Deutsches Ahnenerbe, a nazi archeological researching group that travelled all among the word trying to find evidence to prove the Aryan superiority over the other races.
One of their main objective was to find the mighty subterranean city of Agartha (the centre where, according to Helena Blavatsky and Thule Gesellschafte theories, the Atlantean people came after the destruction of their continent to keep alive their pure race).
However, officially, in their Tibet journey Ahnenerbe researchers didn't found the access to the grat city but they enstablished a link between Tibetan people and Aryan making also antropological studies, largely discussed.
Moreover, if we want to talk about the nazis occultism and the research of the Holy Grail, we have to keep in consideration Otto Rahn. In the 1936 he joined the SS and entered in the Ahnenerbe. He always thought that the Grail was in the fortress of Montsegur, in southern France, but in 1939, after he was accused to be homosexual, he was misteriously found death in south Tyrol mountains, I think it was Soll but I'm not sure. However in his researches and exploration of Montsegur he never found any trace of the Grail, for what do we know.
Rahn was also supposed to be a some kind of inspiration for Spielberg and Lucas to write Raiders an Last Crusade.
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Old 08-02-2007, 10:47 AM   #11
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Wow, now THAT'S ^ interesting. '89, can you advise some literature to find out more about that (the Ahnenerbe research/studies, the city of Agartha...)?
The Montsegur story suddenly remembered me of the "Sang Real" - you know what I mean...

Anyway, why this thread isn't in the Archeology section??

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Old 08-02-2007, 11:11 AM   #12
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"he never found any trace of the Grail"
That's because it never actually existed.

"why this thread isn't in the Archeology section?"
Good question... ask for it to be moved.
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Old 08-02-2007, 11:46 AM   #13
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can you advise some literature to find out more about that (the Ahnenerbe research/studies, the city of Agartha...)?

With extreme pleasure IkoJones .
I've read dozen of books about the WWII (special weapons, the so called nazis "Wunderwaffen") and, in particoular, about the Nationalsocialism (I even read a pair of books written by the special agent Otto Skorzeny and many biographies of the main Third Reich men).
If you need a perfect report, here the link to Michael Kater books (if you know the German read "Das ' Ahnenerbe' der SS 1935 - 1945. Ein Beitrag zur Kulturpolitik des Dritten Reiches"):http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&sear...20Kater&page=1

If you want an excellent book about the Holy Grail, the Crusades, the Templar and the Rosacrucian (and Rosicrucian, of course) read Focault's Pendulum by Umberto Eco and you will realize that Da Vinci Code is just a poor, chep copy.

If you want good information about Deutsches Ahnenerbe without reading THOUSANDS of pages, try the Wikipedia, I read the articles about and they're very well done.

I sincerly hope this will give you some help, but if you need something more, call me (Question. How do we call him? -
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"he never found any trace of the Grail"
That's because it never actually existed.

There's who believes and who doesn't. If you can't prove it, it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. And you correctly said "actually". Indeed, what is life if not a sceptic faith in a beautiful lie?

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"why this thread isn't in the Archeology section?"
Good question... ask for it to be moved.

Yeah, it should be absolutely.

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Old 08-02-2007, 12:04 PM   #14
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"There's who believes and who doesn't."
Belief doesn't matter a tinkers-cuss.... Archaeology is about FACT... and the FACT is, it was invented in the 12th Century as FICTION....
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Old 08-02-2007, 05:09 PM   #15
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...and the FACT is, it was invented in the 12th Century as FICTION....
I'm not a historian...
So in 12th century there were some additions to the New testament's 4 books introducing the cup or whatever it should be?

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Das ' Ahnenerbe' der SS 1935 - 1945. Ein Beitrag zur Kulturpolitik des Dritten Reiches
Deutsch is not a big problem for me but I don't have spare $200 for a book... I'll try the Wikipedia first

Thanks a lot, '89. And, please, call me Ico [Etcho/Itcho]

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Old 08-02-2007, 05:39 PM   #16
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"he never found any trace of the Grail"
That's because it never actually existed.

Ah, please, without disrespect, Clinton, write an essay about it and stop repeating yourself, we all shall know right now that you don't believe in

-Grail
-Jesus
-Atlantis
etc etc...

Is it so hard to only watch a game without shouting how much the opposite team sucks?
That's pretty low.
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"in 12th century there were some additions to the New testament's 4 books introducing the cup"

If I understand your question, "The Bible" doesn't talk about "The Holy Grail" at all.....

"stop repeating yourself"
When people stop asking the same question over and over, I'll stop giving the same answer.

If you don't like it, don't read my posts... easy as that.
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Old 08-03-2007, 01:55 AM   #18
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Technically he's right from what I can recall... the Bible doesn't even talk about the grail. It's kind of a made-up artifact. I mean sure Jesus drank from a cup at the last supper but I don't THINK it mentions anything about it catching his blood at the crucifixion or anything like that. Maybe I'm wrong but I don't recall that. The Ark, however, was definitely real and existed at one time.
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"The Ark, however, was definitely real and existed at one time."
Evidence? Especially given that "Exodus" never happened... (The Hebrews were never slaves in Egypt. If they had been, there would be independent, corroborating evidence... None exists... No Archaeological evidence either. If that story is propaganda, why not the sub-story of The Ark?)
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Copper Scrolls, any one? That would be a find of Biblical proportions...
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"The Ark, however, was definitely real and existed at one time."
Evidence? Especially given that "Exodus" never happened... (The Hebrews were never slaves in Egypt. If they had been, there would be independent, corroborating evidence... None exists... No Archaeological evidence either. If that story is propaganda, why not the sub-story of The Ark?)
Oh, really?

http://www.answersingenesis.org/tj/v15/i1/moses.asp#f5
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Just more cooing from the pigeon...
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Just more cooing from the pigeon...
Ignoring and dismissong it won't make it go away. Check out the rest of the site, Canuck. Many Ph.D.'s...I thought "those in the know" was your entire argument.
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You'd have to be some kind of moron to believe anything supported by answeringgenesis.org....

So again, just more cooing.
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You'd have to be some kind of moron to believe anything supported by answeringgenesis.org....

So again, just more cooing.
No, again just more ad hominem. Not one shred of anything other than a personal bias. A Ph.D. is a Ph.D. (or several, in this case), only invalidated in your mind because you don't like what they have to say.
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