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Old 07-08-2012, 05:59 PM   #426
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This "SoundHound" thing sounds great, Tash! Maybe it could solve my long-burning question: What is the Bach melody that Schweitzer is playing on the piano while Indy is looking at the Bach books on the bookshelf?

I gave it a try - no luck, sorry. I tried the similar "Shazam" app too. Any others vexing you?
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Old 07-11-2012, 05:44 PM   #427
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Thanks for trying, Tash. The mystery continues...

Another vexing tune is the song that Remy is singing while brushing his teeth in "Oganga/German East Africa:

"Le-Ra-Lou, Ra-Le-Lou...(Indecpiherable)...tu mènes. Prenez les mains, mon coucoudou..."

It's doubtful that your SoundHound thing will identify the song but it's worth a shot!
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Old 08-14-2012, 03:42 PM   #428
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Hey if you guys get a chance, can you sic your soundhounds on the "traditional" Russian song that plays during Indy's birthday party in Secret Service? Would love to know what it is!!!
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Old 08-23-2012, 03:41 PM   #429
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I think this is the best version of Minstreal Boy that has similarities with the London piece that I was able to find.

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Old 08-27-2012, 12:29 AM   #430
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Apologies for not going back through the thread to see if this point has been made, but we used The Man Who Would Be King as the temp music for the London goodbye sequence. This iTunes preview, although a different recording, is basically what we used. http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/the...be/id326274734

In fact, I learned a life lesson from GL on this. I commented that the temp track (put in by Ben Burtt) was too militaristic and not romantic enough. (I was editing the rest of the music for an ABC demo.) I was told "That's just an opinion."

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Old 08-27-2012, 08:37 AM   #431
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T.E.Lawrence: A nice performance and, yes, quite similar to the Young Indy versions.

Laird: Just a month or two before you joined The Raven, I reported the first part of your story after hearing it on an IndyCast in October 2009 (post #141). The bit about Lucas saying, "That's just an opinion", you told during our recent Young Indy Music podcast. Fun story!

Which leads me to comment on T.E.Lawrence's 3-year-old post (#120) from September 2009:
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As far as I can see after some listening and some research it seems that the theme when Indy is on the train station is "Minstral Boy" as it is already mentioned in the thread.

But I was confused why was "The Son of God goes forth to war" hymn mentioned together with Minstral Boy, but as Stoo and others have already noted, Minstral Boy tune is used in Huston's film "The Man Who Would be King". But as I can now see the tune in the movie is used together with the "The Son of God goes forth to war" lyrics. So I guess that is the reason why the songs are mentioned together altough the tune is from Minstral Boy.
In actual fact, the tune was originally titled, "The Moreen"! After some digging through various sources, here's what I discovered about its development:

c.1550-c.1805: "The Moreen" (Irish traditional aria - instrumental, no lyrics)
c.1806: "The Minstrel Boy" (Thomas Moore, with lyrics)
1812: "The Son of God Goes Forth to War" (Reginald Heber, Lutheran hymn with different lyrics)

Moreen is a material used to upholster chairs, chesterfields (sofas) & whatnot...An Irish melody about wool fabric? (I've known a couple of Scottish girls named, Maureen.)

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Old 08-27-2012, 12:05 PM   #432
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Funny coincidence. I happen to buy the Major Dundee soundtrack on iTunes last night. (I collect all sorts of music.) The composer of this Sam Peckinpah film was Daniele Amfiteatrof.

In a few tracks, particularly Gentlemen of the South, he quotes Minstrel Boy! (Or whatever it really is vis-a-vis Stoo's last post.)

The film is from the 60's - before The Man Who Would Be King.
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Old 09-05-2012, 01:36 PM   #433
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So, How much music have you guy's amassed? if the the number of pages is to be any indication, it must be a mammoth collection!
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Old 09-05-2012, 03:29 PM   #434
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Based on itunes, my Young Indy files clock in at about 11 hours and 45 minutes of stuff. Yikes. A lot of that is unofficial such as Stoo's 7 minute recreation of the Scheherazade sequence used in the show.
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Old 09-06-2012, 07:34 PM   #435
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Yeah, without duplicates I'm at about 10 hours.
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Old 09-06-2012, 10:43 PM   #436
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I have about 10 hours too.
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Old 09-07-2012, 07:22 PM   #437
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Okay, Enough Lurking!

I have been reading this thread for months and I am caving in. It looks fascinating, and I own all of the Young Indy CDs. Is the music you guys are talking about just tracks of things that do not exist, or have you folks actually compiled all of this music to listen to?
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Old 09-07-2012, 08:29 PM   #438
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I have been reading this thread for months and I am caving in. It looks fascinating, and I own all of the Young Indy CDs. Is the music you guys are talking about just tracks of things that do not exist, or have you folks actually compiled all of this music to listen to?

Actual music. Stop by http://youngindianajonesmusic.com and look at the Promotional Releases and Game Music pages which give info about sources for YIJ music other than the CD releases, or flip through the Cue Lists and pay attention to the Source column.

For example, http://www.youngindianajonesmusic.co...-taker-of-life - this will list the CD tracks used in the two Oganga episodes, as well as pointers to the Indy games that have unreleased music.
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Old 09-07-2012, 09:08 PM   #439
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Spring Break Adventure

I will try and start small then for myself to gradually learn how to do this. I have been to the sites recommended. If I was interested in obtaining all of the music from Spring Break adventure, I am still confused as to how to get it. I see the music, sometimes even the source, but that is where I get lost.
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Old 09-08-2012, 07:12 PM   #440
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Yeah, without duplicates I'm at about 10 hours.

what about without source music or classical music not composed or recorded specifically for the show?
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Old 09-08-2012, 07:20 PM   #441
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My 10 hour is just music from the show. A few pieces are source pieces but not any that are from other sources than the show.
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Old 09-08-2012, 10:57 PM   #442
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If you want to get technical...

4.9 hours are the 4 OST releases.
2.3 hours in bootlegs/promos
0.5 hours of music ripped from the show (scenes with no/minimal dialog/sfx)
2.5 hours of music from games (LEGO and the DVD games),
music from the end credits (DVD and VHS) also used in episodes, and music from composers' web sites (I don't have a good breakdown of this category)

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what about without source music or classical music not composed or recorded specifically for the show?

Of my total, only the 7 minute Scheherazade Medley by Stoo was not recorded for the show. There's a lot of use of classical music composed by Bach, Mozart and others famous dead dudes, even on the OSTs, that was rerecorded for the show. And, of course, Mystery of the Blues and Northern Italy 1918 (among others) are full of course music - including Indy playing the sax! - so it's hard to count.
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Old 09-10-2012, 10:21 AM   #443
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Did you guys know that you can remove/reduce the SFX from the Lego Indy Files?

just take the sfx only files, sync them to the music and sfx files, and invert the sfx only files, and mix and render, and the sfx should be gone or reduced.
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Old 09-11-2012, 12:46 AM   #444
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Did you guys know that you can remove/reduce the SFX from the Lego Indy Files?

just take the sfx only files, sync them to the music and sfx files, and invert the sfx only files, and mix and render, and the sfx should be gone or reduced.

Actually discussed previously on this thread:

http://raven.theraider.net/showpost....&postcount=257

http://raven.theraider.net/showpost....&postcount=307

http://raven.theraider.net/showpost....&postcount=315

Some tracks (listed above) get an improvement or become totally clean. The others (as mentioned) aren't as simple - the SFX is not a simple loop of the "ambient" file. Possibly there's an offset or the "ambient" file is more than a single loop. Anyway, I haven't had a chance to clean up any more of the files than those listed in the above posts. Best of luck to anyone that wants to attempt it!
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Old 10-05-2012, 10:34 AM   #445
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Well, I had a year's posts to read up on - and what a terrific read it was. I've also downloaded the podcast and looking forward to hearing the whole thing!

Great find on Squanto, too. Will definitely try to pick that one up before Intrada lets it go out of print or so. Of course the cue is entirely derivative of Hook in the first place (as Phantom Train is).

Must really start editing all this music when I find some time - over an hour of unreleased music in the games is really something
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Old 10-10-2012, 02:39 PM   #446
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Welcome back, Sir Fommes! Hope you enjoyed the podcast. If you liked it, thank InexorableTash & Laird. Tash is the one who got the ball rolling and Laird edited it together.

I absolutely loathed/detested/hated, "Hook", and never want to see it again (once was MORE than enough) but am curious to know about which music you're referring to.

Got your latest e-mail. Reply coming up...

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Old 10-12-2012, 08:16 AM   #447
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Thanks!
I just listened to and really enjoyed the Podcast! So thanks to the three of you for a splendid programme! Info-wise there wasn't much new in this for this subforum's frequenters of course, but I enjoyed the talk very much, it was well thought out, well edited, had some great anecdotes and was very entertaining. Nice to hear your voices too

Regarding Phantom Train of Doom, the score is very, very derivative of Last Crusade and Hook - it's entertaining but it copies the temp track a bit too closely. Then again, perhaps other Young Indy scores copied their temp track very closely too, but it all depends on whether you're familiar with the temp score of course.
But if you like it, you'll probably like the Hook score too, regardless of the quality of the film

(PS: InexorableTash, your PM inbox is full.)

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Old 10-12-2012, 08:51 AM   #448
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I actually quite like how evocative of the Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade score the Phantom Train of Doom score is; I see (er, hear) it as a musical move to help tie the show more closely together with the films, and it certainly works well for the episode, too.

It appears to have been intentional; in the soundtrack liner notes the composer notes the music's relatedness to the scores for the features.
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Laird (post #333, March 16, 2011):
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One thing to clarify, at least in my time on YIJC, no scores were recorded in Germany. Prague was the main location with some done in Australia.
Laird, I'm not exactly sure when you stopped working on the show but the CD credits for "Ireland" and "Northern Italy" say that their scores were recorded in Munich, Germany. (Don't mean to contradict you, it's just something worth pointing out!)

Why did I go back this post of yours? Because...

The CDs tell us which orchestras were used & where the recordings were made, etc. but we don't have much of the same information about all of the other music we've uncovered/discovered. It would be great to know, as much as possible, about the rest - for 2 reasons:

1) For InexorableTash's wonderful website. (Thus far, it doesn't have any of these details, legit release or not.)
2) For the album credits of our fan-made volumes.

I'm putting together artwork for our additional volumes and want to duplicate the design of the legitimate releases, including the credit info. At present, Volume 0 is being finished and I'm preparing a cover for Tash's suggestion of Volume 8.

For starters: Laird, can you (or anyone else) help fill in the blanks for these?

CURSE OF THE JACKAL
Music Composted, Conducted and Produced by Laurence Rosenthal
Orchestrations: ???
Music Performed by: "American Federation of Musicians"
Recorded at: Skywalker Ranch, Marin County, California, U.S.A.
Music Prepartion: ???

PALESTINE, 1917 (DAREDEVILS OF THE DESERT)
Music Composted, Conducted and Produced by Laurence Rosenthal
Orchestrations: ???
Music Performed by: ???
Recorded at: ???
Music Prepartion: ???

TRESURE OF THE PEACOCK'S EYE
Music Composted, Conducted and Produced by Steve Bramson
Orchestrations: ???
Music Performed by: ???
Recorded at: ???
Music Prepartion: ???

P.S. Tash, the "Orchestrations" for IRELAND and NORTHERN ITALY were done by John Bell. A relative of yours, perhaps?
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1) For InexorableTash's wonderful website. (Thus far, it doesn't have any of these details, legit release or not.)

Hey, you've got write permissions - go ahead and edit the Original Soundtracks page to add details as you see fit.

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2) For the album credits of our fan-made volumes.

Woooo!

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CURSE OF THE JACKAL
Music Performed by: "American Federation of Musicians"

AFM is more of a professional organization (similar to a union) than a group for hire, isn't it?

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TRESURE OF THE PEACOCK'S EYE
Music Composted, Conducted and Produced by Steve Bramson

Do you know that he had the opportunity to conduct it? Just wondering if Lucasfilm flew everyone overseas for the recording sessions.

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P.S. Tash, the "Orchestrations" for IRELAND and NORTHERN ITALY were done by John Bell. A relative of yours, perhaps?

The "Bell" side of my family does have a musical bent, but nope. (And no relation to the famous violinist either.)
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