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Old 02-25-2008, 12:29 AM   #26
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If you have the f word print, it will be on pg. 168 or thereabouts. In later prints, it is replaced by Indy's sentence, "You no good sadistic..."

Thanks. Yeah, mine is edited.

Well, now I'm determined to own both.
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Old 02-25-2008, 12:46 AM   #27
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and.......Mines an original!

Coincidently,I was considering re-reading this book tonight..Eh,Maybe tomorrow.
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Old 02-25-2008, 12:57 AM   #28
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It'll be interesting to see how many of us have the original and how many of us don't. I guess the TR.N staff are going to have to add that tidbit of info in their new Indy Lit section. Just as long as I get a nod for working it out.

But there's really no difference between them otherwise. Just that one sentence. He says "No good sadistic" before being drugged whereas, the original he says the word, after he is drugged. The rest of the novel is the same. Though it makes me curious if any of the other novels were edited in their later editions in terms of sexual references and swearing. I have only one original, "Peril at Delphi" (as that one is out of print and I bought it secondhand) and the rest are re-prints. A little off the track, I have always wondered, which book they told Rob McGregor to cut the sex scene out of. He isn't clear in TR.N's interview.
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Old 02-25-2008, 01:34 AM   #29
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Thanks. Yeah, mine is edited.

Well, now I'm determined to own both.

Same here! Been lurking on this thread, never knew there were two versions.
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Old 02-25-2008, 01:40 AM   #30
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Interesting that the f-word was even there in the first place. How did the author get away with it? I'm guessing LucasFilm wasn't as heavily involved in approving the Indy books as they were the Star Wars books?
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Old 02-25-2008, 10:38 AM   #31
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They really weren't since they established two different accounts of how Indy met Wu-Han
One in Dinosaur Eggs and in Emperor's tomb
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Old 03-06-2008, 03:21 PM   #32
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They really weren't since they established two different accounts of how Indy met Wu-Han
One in Dinosaur Eggs and in Emperor's tomb

That's certainly something that has really bothered me. Inconsistencies in continuity bother me. On topic, my used copy of Genesis Deluge arrived today, and it is an original copy. Indy is still letting the f-bomb fly in my copy. I didn't remember him saying that when I borrowed the book from the library years ago. That copy must have been the edited one.
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Old 03-06-2008, 04:20 PM   #33
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I always go by Emperor's tomb account because it was most recent
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Old 03-06-2008, 04:37 PM   #34
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I always go by Emperor's tomb account because it was most recent

That's actually the reason I prefer Dinosaur Eggs version. It was released before Emperor's Tomb, and I feel that a book holds greater sway over a video game. Chronoligically, Dinosaur Eggs takes place before Emperor's Tomb also. It also seems weird that Indy would refer to Wu Han as "an old friend" if he only met him very recently. That's just me though.
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Old 03-06-2008, 05:47 PM   #35
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That's true
I also liked the story of Dinosaur Eggs better because thne Emperor's Tomb because Emperor's Tomb just got ridiculous at the end
In no way in any universe would Indy travel to the Netherworlds
It was a good game till you arrived in China, then it just went downhill from there
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Old 03-07-2008, 04:02 AM   #36
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Indy has travelled to other dimensions before. He did in Infernal Machine to the "Atherium", also in the infamous Desktop Adventures using a crystal skull and in Rob McGregor's last book, "Interior World". So the whole travelling to the Netherworlds thing is not really new to the Expanded Universe. Also the game makers were probably not aware of Wu Han's appearance in "Dinosaur Eggs".
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Old 03-09-2008, 01:53 AM   #37
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Since they are all Lucasfilm approved you'd think they'd get the timeline straight
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Old 03-11-2008, 08:10 PM   #38
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Ah the expanded universe! How better to destroy something awesome.

I always got peeved that SW: Truce at Bakura took place the day after ROTJ and started banging on about Luke's hand hurting. Way to bring the party down. But most of all the Dark Horse IJ and the Spear Of Destiny which starts after Last Crusade and has Indy and his dad complaining about what they lost out on.

Last Crusade has such an upbeat ending with the reconciliation of father and son and the realisation that Indy and his father found the one thing more important than the prize - each other.

So for Henry to feel "He was unworthy" is a real kick in the junk for a fan.
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Old 03-11-2008, 09:38 PM   #39
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I like the Star Wars Sequel novels
I thought they had a pretty solid plot to them
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Old 03-12-2008, 05:51 AM   #40
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I agree. Despite it, I still go out and pay and read the damn things. Both Indy and SW expanded universe stuff. I've got a feeling that it's heaps cheaper to strongly believe that only the movies are canon, lol.
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Old 03-12-2008, 06:17 PM   #41
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Haha
But it`s so much fun to buy the other stuff
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Old 03-16-2008, 01:03 AM   #42
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I have the f-bomb version. All of mine are the originals (including the Raiders and ToD novelizations) except for Delphi and I am missing the LC novel and Philosopher's Stone, Dino Eggs, and Secret of the Sphinx.

Luckily, my library system has them all and I have read all of the ones I am missing and none of the ones I have. Strange, huh.
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Old 03-16-2008, 09:39 PM   #43
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Indiana Jones, like my Paternal Grandfather never, ever used the f**k word. That book should be officially banned from the Indy Jones Canon.
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Old 03-16-2008, 10:25 PM   #44
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Don't ban the book, it's actually fairly to true to a real Indy movie
Plus Al Capone!
Just use the edited version instead
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Old 04-04-2008, 09:55 PM   #45
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I recently acquired some of the Novels and was a little surprised by the profanity, but have to say that it doesn't strike me as out of character. It's not like he's a Sunday-school teacher, he's used to dealing with some pretty unsavory characters. He kills people. What's the occasional F-bomb.

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Old 04-04-2008, 10:27 PM   #46
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I recently acquired some of the Novels and was a little surprised by the profanity, but have to say that it doesn't strike me as out of character. It's not like he's a Sunday-school teacher, he's used to dealing with some pretty unsavory characters. He kills people. What's the occasional F-bomb.

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Any of you guys ever go to Sunday School?
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Old 04-04-2008, 10:33 PM   #47
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Any of you guys ever go to Sunday School?


Happens to me all the time.
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Old 04-05-2008, 02:14 AM   #48
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True, people have to realize that Indy isn't exactly child friendly
It's meant for the teen- adult audience
That's part of the reason Lucas created the Young Indiana Jones Chronicles, To appeal to a younger audience and to educate
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Old 04-05-2008, 08:46 AM   #49
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Still, though, the F-Bomb isn't very 'pulpy' , themely, to the Indiana Jones character or franchise. I would have found it pretty jarring myself. And, generally, when I find that a writer relies on using that language, it's to artificially add 'edge' to a book that lacks it otherwise.

Granted, this is just a general statement. I haven't read this particular book.
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Old 04-05-2008, 04:06 PM   #50
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I firmly believe in artistic integrity.
Poor Martin Caiden. All he needed were a few F-bombs and he would have had... art!
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