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Old 04-19-2008, 09:40 AM   #76
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(P.S. A friendly tip. Someone will most likely advise you not to double post
so I might as well do it now. Just lettin' ya know, my friend!)

I don't believe I did - I've always taken "double posting" to mean inadvertently posting the same thing twice.

But I did make multiple posts in rapid succession. Mea culpa. But I did so because the first two posts were in response to (and quoting) two different people, and I was simply too lazy to hit Quote, copy the text, go back, hit Quote on the other post, paste in the the quoted text above or below the other quoted text, add my answers to both and hit Submit. Though granted, I've done it before... Anyway, the third post I made because I thought of the regional differences possibility after making the second post. IIRC I'd actually meant to edit it, but must have hit the wrong button.

(Clearly, the one thing I'm not too lazy to do in forum postings is write lots and lots and lots and lots of words about matters of trivial significance; I'm quite adept at that... )
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Old 04-19-2008, 09:49 AM   #77
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Argh. Stoo, I hadn't thought to reply to this until after making my reply above. I hope you'll forgive a wee bit more consecutive posting from me.

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How do you tell if it's a first edition? It doesn't say on the publishing page. Don't the string of numbers at the very bottom signify something? Mine are....

RAD 0 9 8 7 6 5 4 3

My copy sounds exactly like your's, Stoo. And it's edited. I live in the US.... what gives?

Mine has those numbers, but going all the way ("RAD 0 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1"), the Indiana Jones®™ logo in the title on the cover is embossed, and on page 168, Indy uses a naughty word, twice. I'm now inclined to think we just have different printings.
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Old 04-19-2008, 10:40 AM   #78
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So, Genesis Deluge is the only instance in the adult IJ books where Indy says the F-word, and it's only in the early printings. Okay.

Probably asking too much but... anyone know how rare are unedited edtions, and how could I assure that that's what I'd be getting if I ordered a copy from, say, amazon?
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Old 04-19-2008, 10:48 AM   #79
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Well, we don't know that it's only the early printings yet, though that does look very likely now, in my opinion.

If it's the case, I think any copy you order from Amazon is definitely not going to have it - this book's first printing came out years before Amazon even existed - and will instead be whatever the final revision is, unless you're talking about ordering from another seller on Amazon who's specifically offering them as first printings. In that case, it's all about whether you find someone offering them...
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Old 04-19-2008, 10:56 PM   #80
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I haven't be able to find the swear version
So i'm guessing it'll be quite difficult to find
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Old 05-06-2008, 05:09 PM   #81
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I now think I'd like to find out if there are any other differences between different editions of the books. I'd like to see a comprehensive guide to different versions of the various Indy tales, documenting everything from the extensive reconfigurations of The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles into The Adventures of Young Indiana Jones, to content edits in the licensed publications, like this one.

Anyone here have a set of Indy paperbacks with different-edition duplicates, a scanner with some optical character recognition software, and a lot of free time?

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Old 10-12-2008, 03:00 AM   #82
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Mine says February 1992, RAD 0 9 8 7 6 5 4. First edition, fourth printing. It's unembossed and F-bomb free. So, did they catch it before the second printing?

And would someone kindly scan and link to the rude page?

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Old 10-12-2008, 12:02 PM   #83
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I don't have a scanner (if I did, I'd probably have planned on doing myself the project I mentioned in my previous post), but I wonder whether I can get a decent pic of a page using my camera. I'll try that later for you, if no one beats me to it with a nice scan.
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Old 10-14-2008, 04:47 AM   #84
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Mine has those numbers, but going all the way ("RAD 0 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1"),

That is called a Printer Key.

The lowest number in the sequence is the number of the printing - meaning the number of times they've gone to press. If it is something other than 1, it means they stopped production for a while - such as fulfilling the initial contract. Each time they go back to press, the number changes.

The Edition (not shown above) changes only if the typeset changes. The typeset is the position of the letters on the pages. For the edited version of Deluge, the typeset had to change, so the Edition number changed. If the publisher changes the typeface (font), the Edition would also change.

The letters at the beginning of the key represent the company that did the printing.

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Old 10-14-2008, 04:59 AM   #85
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Mine says February 1992, RAD 0 9 8 7 6 5 4. First edition, fourth printing. It's unembossed and F-bomb free. So, did they catch it before the second printing?

And would someone kindly scan and link to the rude page?

I'd be interested in seeing that also. When they changed the text, they should have changed the edition.

Adherence to the standards in a printer key isn't always as strict as it should be. Especially where mass market paperbacks that are contracted out to multiple printing companies are concerned.
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Old 10-19-2008, 04:58 PM   #86
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Thought f word sound off-place...

But Indy said sh*t in the rope bridge in Doom...
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Old 10-20-2008, 09:34 AM   #87
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these are movie swears ---------------------------------------------
at least in raiders when marion is cleaning indy's wounds she says g-d d-------t
and when the bantu wind is stopped and katanga tells indy that "they have most important friends" indys says "h--y s--t"


and of course in temple of doom the bridge scene indy says oh s--t
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Old 02-06-2009, 11:15 AM   #88
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He does, he says "****" in every movie


Raiders sure, Temple yup, ( and both on bridges!)

Where in Crusade?

Where in Skull?
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Old 02-06-2009, 11:24 AM   #89
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Ah the expanded universe! How better to destroy something awesome...a real kick in the junk for a fan.

Can't agree more!

On a side note: If you're going off on a tangent...like Mickey D's, at least write how you were swearing at the employees, or cursing them out!

Indy puts on his grubby gear and steps into the shadows, but he never went past a PG vocabulary! (PG13 was for the gore people!)

He always kept one foot in the academic world, and the worst he mustered for the outrage of enslaving/killing innocent children and Short Round, was Bastards...not even f'n bastards. It was edited to maintain character...and as posted before remains memorable for others because it was so out-of-place.

Too many people bringing their own f'd-up bagage to the party!


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Old 04-27-2010, 03:07 PM   #90
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I'm still interested in an image of possibly the only use of the F-word in the Lucasverse. You just might be holding a collector's item! Once again:

Indiana Jones and the Genesis Deluge
First edition, first (and second?) printing
February 1992, "RAD 0 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1"
Page 168
Indy: "F--- the Sultans, and f--- you!"
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Old 04-27-2010, 03:23 PM   #91
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I'm still interested in an image of possibly the only use of the F-word in the Lucasverse.
It's not the only reference, though. Yelling in French, Remy tells the lions to "F*ck off!" in "Phantom Train of Doom"!
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Old 04-29-2010, 09:59 PM   #92
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Ask and ye shall receive:



Had to crack the spine on my first printing to get this scan; I hope it was worth it!
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Old 04-30-2010, 02:34 PM   #93
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Thanks a MILLION, Icybro! I can't believe you cracked the spine. Not having that edition, to me, yes, it was worth it.

I'll try and get a screen grab of the subtitles with Remy and the lions.
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Old 04-30-2010, 03:06 PM   #94
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Thanks a MILLION, Icybro! I can't believe you cracked the spine. Not having that edition, to me, yes, it was worth it.

Stoo, I'm ashamed that you would condone violence towards books! Books are our friends. (When my dad borrows my books I always try to take the dust jacket off first, to preserve it!) Indy would have something to say on the matter, if I consulted The Last Crusade.

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I'll try and get a screen grab of the subtitles with Remy and the lions.

That was a shocker on first viewing.
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Old 03-04-2013, 01:57 PM   #95
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I know I'm late for the party, but I didn't discover the edits to the Indy novels until I received a few extra galleys copies from Rob several years ago. Not only is there more profanity in the original text, but there are entire scenes removed from the final print editions. In Genesis Deluge, Katrina's dream love sequence is more graphic, and there's a lot of swearing between Indy and Jack before the drive-by shooting at the Shannon residence.

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Old 03-04-2013, 02:11 PM   #96
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Wow...graphic, yea. Hardcore porno-graphic!

Having a hard time with this.

Believing that is...
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Old 03-04-2013, 02:22 PM   #97
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Disgraceful!


Indy's language was ******* awful.



Indy the impaler learnt something from old Vlad, then.
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Old 03-04-2013, 03:30 PM   #98
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Changed the title from "Indy swearing," hope you find it accurate and unbiased.

I wonder if MacGregor was just testing his editor?
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Changed the title from "Indy swearing," hope you find it accurate and unbiased.

I wonder if MacGregor was just testing his editor?
The page posted indicates its a proof...but common sense isn't indicated at all.

Its too fantastic to be anything more than a joke...but by whom?
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Old 03-05-2013, 12:47 AM   #100
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The page posted indicates its a proof...but common sense isn't indicated at all.

Its too fantastic to be anything more than a joke...but by whom?

Sounds like MacGregor was testing Lucas' limits, just to see how far he could go.

The line '"I'm coming", he said. "I'm coming."' is a giveaway that he couldn't have been serious!

Reminds me of those old school French text books with Jean Paul shouting "J'arrive, Marie Claire!"
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