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The fountain of youth. Using some cgi, they could digitally insert young Ford as Indy in the final battle, using outtake footage from previous installments. Fighting in the fountain, young indy. Fighting outside of the fountain, old Indy. Also, He could lose an eye earlier in the movie (eye patches are cool) per YIJC, and have it rejuvenated by the fountain. This way, It could still work as a prequel, and Mac could return for a more meaty role. I know that the fountain is not an artifact, but perhaps the quest for another object could ultimately lead him to it... Lucas, Spielberg, PM me, I've got much more in my progressing fan script.
What about Indiana Jones and the Sword of Destruction...where the search is on for the sword of Achillies. Its a race between Indy, Sallah, and Mutt against the evil Russians to hunt down and find the sword that as mysterious and limitless power. I mean you could go all kinds of directions with that. If not that, then I would REALLY like to see them use the Staff of Moses idea. I mean that thing pretty much was a stick of destruction...if it falls into the wrong hands, then everyone is doomed. That seems to work the best for the next Indy movie. They need to create a race against evil for an object that will bring certain doom to civilization as we know it...
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I think I'm going to write a short piece about Indy crossing paths with the Necromantic Bell of Girardius. It's a bell that summons the dead. Indy vs. Zombies! My favorite two things combined.
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It's my understanding that the Tibetian "Book of the Dead" is actually used in funerary ceremonies. Roughly as a eastern equivolent to a post mortem "last rites", guiding the deceased into their next life. It is also some sort of meditative instructional which explains and tutors the reader and the administrator on the 6 Bardos, or levels of consciousness. Calling it the book of the dead is a western take on it. It's real name is the Bardo Thodol, translated as "Liberation Through Hearing".
The Egyptian "Book of the Dead" carries with it similar functions.
The "Necronomicon Ex-Mortis" (Naturon Demonto) "Book of the Dead" however, is chock full of evil powers! Unfortunately, it is a purely fictional item from the Evil Dead movies. An Evil Dead/Indiana Jones crossover film could be fun, but in reality would be a botched mess. Maybe it would be good idea for a graphic novel.
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The "Necronomicon Ex-Mortis" (Naturon Demonto) "Book of the Dead" however, is chock full of evil powers! Unfortunately, it is a purely fictional item from the Evil Dead movies. An Evil Dead/Indiana Jones crossover film could be fun, but in reality would be a botched mess. Maybe it would be good idea for a graphic novel.
Well, technically the Necronomicon finds its origin in the writings of H. P. Lovecraft (the Necronomicon of EVIL DEAD was just an homage to Lovecraft). It's actually a pretty interesting object.
A Lovecraft/Indiana Jones crossover would be very doable (and I daresay, pretty appropriate). I'd love to see INDIANA JONES AND THE CALL OF CTHULHU.
Well, I know I'll have a lot of people saying no to this... But Atlantis is the most perfect thing for Indy to go after. From a purely movie making perspective, the action set pieces would be awesome and lavish, thew history of whether its true or not could come into play, Plato was real, therefore giving it context, and most of all, you could figure out what exactly is important about Atlantis.
Now I know that it's already been done in games and such, but you wouldn't have to follow the game, you could do something new, or try a different story element in Atlantis. Heck, maybe even just straight up adapt it. It's a full on awesome idea, and if they wanted something people would see. It's this.
Its a good idea for the next installment but it would most likely compete with brendan fraiser movie "the antedullvian world" the sequel to "journey to the center of the earth". you know?
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My opinion about Atlantis is that if you do it, you have to include the nazi's in some way. Part of the nazi shtick was that aryans were descendants of the Atlanteans. Hitler sent researchers all over the globe trying to prove this. It's just too convenient of a plot twist/device (depending on the angle) to ignore for an Indy adventure.
It's just too convenient of a plot twist/device (depending on the angle) to ignore for an Indy adventure.
that's not necessarily true. i think it would be more accurate to say that some big bad with no form limitations would be a key to an Indy adven. Like Communist Russia or Japan. So just about any "Evil" organization could qualify to be the
In the heart of Mecca in the most sacred Muslim shrine is embedded something called The Black stone. It is supposedly black because it absorbs man's original sin. Check it out on Wikipedia. This stone was believed to have been set in place by Mohamed himself. Islamic tradition holds that it fell from heaven into Eden to mark the place where Adam was to build the first temple to worship God. The stone was stolen many times and broken. In fact, pictures show it is now held together by a "ligature" of beaten silver. If it once led Adam to the center of Eden what is to stop some nefarious villain--perhaps a believed "long-dead" mentor of Indy's--from taking a piece of it and using it to find The Garden of Life. Youth restored at the Tree of Life. Innocence regained. The dark mercenary soul of a ninety-year-old man (Abner) washed clean... There are possibilities here.
No more with the Abrahamic Religions. No Nazis either.
Indiana Jones works primarily because they flirt with the idea of the preternatural. In other words, those supernatural bits and pieces are a fragment of the larger, natural world. To do any more turns Indy into an older version of Rick O'Connell in the various Mummy pictures or a more deliberate inheritor of, precursor to Lara Croft. Both of those pictures are more in line with what I would call "fantasy-adventure," not action-adventure.
It's also where Kingdom failed miserably -- Indy was taken out of the realm of possibility, into the land of make-believe. But that's another topic for another time and place.
I have, in one of my notebooks, the layout for three separate Indy stories. None deal with the Abrahamic Religions, Nazis, or Russians. But since I have to run out the door (Up! It's here!), I'll briefly state the titles
Indiana Jones and the Heretic Pharaoh
Indiana Jones and the Eyes of Siem Reap
and a third story without a working title dealing Indy's adventures in West & Central Africa.
More later tonight. Especially if I can find out what notebook they were jotted down in.
Well, we've had the Ark of the Covenant in Raiders, the Sankara Stones in Temple, the Holy Grail in Crusade, and the Skull of Akator (also, dispelling the myth of El Dorado) in Kingdom.
That still leaves a veritable wealth of mythology for Lucas to mine from. I doubt he'll dip into the same mythology twice, so I'd steer clear from anything in Jewish, Christian, or Hindu mythology now. That means great relics like the Staff of Aaron or the Spear of Destiny probably won't appear.
Things like Sun-Wu Kung's Garden of Immortal Peaches, the Fountain of Youth, artefacts involving eternal life, seem unlikely also - remember, the plotline concerning eternal youth and life was done with the Grail in Crusade, so it's unlikely to be visited again. So those few are out.
The Golden Fleece and Noah's Ark are nice choices, admittedly. But how would they work as MacGuffins, exactly? Noah's Ark has no purpose except for sitting atop Mount Ararat like a rotting boat which, technically, it is. And the Golden Fleece, in mythology, holds no actual power - it's just golden and shiny. So, nice as they are, these two are also unlikely.
Relics like Excalibur, Mjolnir, or the lost city of Atlantis, are popular choices, and probably work well in a fifth Indiana Jones movie. They've got my top votes, personally - each stays away from mythologies already explored, and are sufficiently different to the aforementioned quartet of relics Indy's already found.
But in terms of a MacGuffin, I believe - for the fifth film - it should work like Last Crusade: instead of having the film be all about that MacGuffin, it should be a secondary relic to the more important figure that Indy must find. In this case, I'd make it Abner Ravenwood. Have Indy find Abner Ravenwood, and learn his disappearance ties into the Nazis living in South America, who want Excalibur/Mjolnir/Atlantis. Go from there!!
Atlantis has absolutely no chance whatsoever. Both Spielberg and Lucas are fans of the game and are close friends with Hal Barwood (who directed it). For the same reason the Tower of Babel won't appear, and both the Emperor's Tomb and the Staff of Aaron/Moses had to be approved by Lucas and Spielberg before they became a game. No matter how perfect any of these are, they won't be in Indy V.
Atlantis wouldn't be a bad idea unless they are in SCUBA gear for along time. It would be nice to see the wreckage of the Coronado as a little Easter Egg. I'm not sure about the Golden Fleece. It was in Jason and the Argonauts, but that moive is quite old(and good)so alot of people might not remember much. We'll just have to wait and see if they are actually making a moive and what they decide.
I also like the Land of Darkness, sometimes known as the Forest of Abkhazia, from mythology. Alexander the Great supposedly ventured in there in search of the Water of Life (a riff on the Fountain of Youth mythos).
I reckon it'd work well. If it wasn't like the end of Cradle of Life.
