JerryKing said:Where's "neither"?
segask said:So what do we think people. In KOTCS, did Shia prove himself worthy of wearing the hat? Or does he have a bit of a ways to go.
I think this is right, though I maintain that had Lucas not sold Lucasfilm he would have procrastinated and he and Spielberg would have never got anywhere with this. We saw how much time was wasted between 2016-2020 with JUST Spielberg attached, clearly unable to get the film to a place where he wanted to make it. Throw Lucas into the mix, add in a sprinkling of 'not really wanting/needing to do it anyway' and the only outcome is either no film at all or at best (worst) an even more delayed half hearted effort very much along the lines of Skull. We probably wouldn't have got aliens again, but that was never really the issue with Skull, it was the fact that the creatives involved (with the exception of Ford) were just going through the motions.This is especially true if Lucas had stayed on the project. As we saw from the Prequels, he makes what he wants, not what the audience wants.
Prob irrelevant with the Disney purchase...no way Iger/The Mouse would have done anything close to KOTCS 2.Had Shia not upset Spielberg, Lucas and Ford.. we might have got KOTCS II. I don't think that's what the audience would have wanted, but not sure if the filmakers would have cared.
Wasn't known in 2008, but we can safely say that we are getting Indy V and not KOTCS II.
Had Shia not upset Spielberg, Lucas and Ford.. we might have got KOTCS II. I don't think that's what the audience would have wanted, but not sure if the filmakers would have cared.
This is especially true if Lucas had stayed on the project. As we saw from the Prequels, he makes what he wants, not what the audience wants. That's not always a bad thing as it generates originality, but I found Lucas's ideas and vision off after the original IJ and SW trilogy. Spent too long semi retired and lost his groove.
To be fair, KOTCS never attempted to portray Mutt as an alpha male hero or as the next Indy. He was portrayed as an awkward young man who tries to look tough at times, but often fails. Indy's a professor who loves archaeology/history, while Mutt's a drop-out who loves his motorcycle.The fact Lucas and Spielberg saw Shia La Bouef as action hero potential is just laughable. Utterly reprehensible human being as he is now, having the dorky kid from Even Stevens as an alpha male hero is the biggest leap of imagination even in a film with nuked fridges and aliens.
To be fair, when I watched Fleabag I didn’t automatically think of an action/adventure sidekick for Indiana Jones..The fact Lucas and Spielberg saw Shia La Bouef as action hero potential is just laughable. Utterly reprehensible human being as he is now, having the dorky kid from Even Stevens as an alpha male hero is the biggest leap of imagination even in a film with nuked fridges and aliens.
To be fair, when I watched Fleabag I didn’t automatically think of an action/adventure sidekick for Indiana Jones..