This is true. But come on.... who wouldn't want to try and use Joker if they could.
Yeah you couldn't stay away from Joker, he is just as or more so iconic than Batman himself and Two Face is hard to resist as well.
You know I like the Mad Hatter idea and wish Nolan. I honestly think if I was in Nolan's shoes is bring in Catwoman anyway simply to create a lust for Bruce since Rachel died and everything and he turns his sorrow into more revenge and lust, that itself would make an interesting film.
The Joker is the quintessential Batman villain. Even if spite of Ledger's death, the Joker would still have been a huge box-office draw. You just can't top the Joker. The third film will suffer noticeably because of this fact. Doesn't mean it won't be good, just not AS good.
Yeah you couldn't stay away from Joker, he is just as or more so iconic than Batman himself and Two Face is hard to resist as well.
You know I like the Mad Hatter idea and wish Nolan. I honestly think if I was in Nolan's shoes is bring in Catwoman anyway simply to create a lust for Bruce since Rachel died and everything and he turns his sorrow into more revenge and lust, that itself would make an interesting film.
I think Catwoman is a bad idea. Mainly because I think it would be more interesting to see Bruce dealing with loneliness and shutting himself off and going full-on Batman as Rachel predicted. Since she said she could now tell he couldn't give that up.
I mean, since he has nothing left Batman is all he has.
I mean, since he has nothing left Batman is all he has.
He has Alfred, so it's not like he has no family. I think that Catwoman could work, and I also think the Riddler and Penguin could work, but I don't see the Mad Hatter as a serious villain.
True. But Alfred is all he has now. It might even be interesting to see him punish himself for what happened to Rachel by making himself as lonely as possible.
Actually I didn't think it through. He also has Lucius Fox. But I like the idea of Mad Hatter kidnapping him (which he did in the comics) and this giving Bruce the feeling that he may lose someone else close to him. Same goes for Gordon.
Oh wait he has Gordon too, sort of.
lol.... well there goes my theory. But I could see him not getting close to women.
He's already punishing himself over the death of his parents. As Alfred says, "You spat in the face of Gotham's criminals. Did you not think there might be some casualties?" Her death only furthers his anguish to fight injustice. That's what Batman stands for.
Agreed. He's just wrapped up in bandages, a trenchcoat and carries two guns. He's a poor man's Darkman.
When I first read Hush I was like "Wait, the new character introduced in the story arc is also the new bad guy? I saw this coming from the second issue...there has to be some twist." Turns there wasn't. Dude is just some guy with guns, and bandages because all Batman's rogues have be twisted or scared or some crap.
THAT said, Paul Dini is doing a fine job trying to make him a good character with his current Detective Comics run.
I like the idea of Mad Hatter more though. A pedophile who is obsessed with the darker aspects of Alice in Wonderland. Perhaps he has been on the loose and killed children? ...
As a Lewis Carroll pandit, this would be truly chilling. The depths of his works combined with the endopsychic propoganda that could be realized....wow.
As a Lewis Carroll pandit, this would be truly chilling. The depths of his works combined with the endopsychic propoganda that could be realized....wow.
Sure, but I think that pedophilia may be too dark a subject matter.
It would be more extreme than the Joker though if they want to top him!
Yeah, but damn. You wanna talk about giving kids nightmares? Pedophilia sure as hell would.
Anyway, I'm curious, how exactly would Batman be tough fighting a pedophile? When I think of pedophiles, I think of fat losers with mangy beards and taped-up circular glasses that live in their mom's basements and fondle the neighborhood kids.
Doesn't sound much like a fight to me...
This conversation of the Mad Hatter really reminds me of a Sherlock Holmes movie in 1945 called the Woman in Green which has a plot which would be perfect for the third movie if they use the Mad Hatter or the Riddler.
The whole style and film noir in this Holmes mystrey is similar to the two Batman films.
“Dark Knight” director Chris Nolan has not committed to another sequel, but Warner Bros. says it’s eager to get started. And the key to “Dark Knight”’s record-breaking box office is clearly its villain: Heath Ledger’s Joker.
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Fans are speculating about whom the Caped Crusader should face next time. Most agree it’s time to get some formidable women in the mix.
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The Riddler. An iconic villain played to campy excess by Frank Gorshin and Jim Carrey. It’s possible Nolan could bring fame back to Edward Nigma. “Audiences give Nolan the benefit of the doubt,” says Blair Butler of G4TV. “He made Two-Face a serious criminal again. Why not Riddler?”
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Ventriloquist and Scarface. Meek ventriloquist Arnold Wesker begins to take orders from his dummy, Scarface, to murder his enemies. “It’s a very creepy scenario, and Chris would have to walk that line carefully,” says Garth Franklin of the movie fan site Dark Horizons. “After all, it’s a guy running around with a doll.”
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“You really can’t have too fanciful a villain in Chris Nolan’s universe,” says Rob Worley of Comics2Film.com. “Anything too science-fiction-y isn’t going to fit in his hard-core take of Batman. He likes something that’s going to fit in the real world.”
obscure the crime, by showing the victimized children as brainwashed agents dolling out the evil....Leave the "sexuality" out of it...
It further villian-izes Batman, if he punishes the children for commiting crimes.
(yeah, I'm pretty twisted )
Yes, it wouldn't ever SHOW him as a pedophile. It would be something like...
Gordon (throws photos down for Batman to see): "That's all I can give you. His real name is ___ and he was a computer programmer at blah blah blah" (I don't know his real name lol)... "he's a sociopath and a pedophile..."
Batman: "Pedophile?"
Gordon: "Yes. Apparently obsessed with the book Alice in Wonderland, that's why he calls himself the Mad Hatter. He likes to kidnap children with the name of "Alice." (Said with slight disgust)
You never need to see the crime itself. Just need to know what he is.
I think Killer Croc would be cool. But since The Lizard is no doubt going to be in Spider-Man 4, he'll seem like a rip-off. Which he sort of is, since Lizard was one of Spidey's first villains. Though the backgrounds are completely different.
He'd definately be different form any Batman villain so far.
I think Killer Croc would be cool. But since The Lizard is no doubt going to be in Spider-Man 4, he'll seem like a rip-off. Which he sort of is, since Lizard was one of Spidey's first villains. Though the backgrounds are completely different.
He'd definately be different form any Batman villain so far.
You're missing the point of Nolan's world being more realistic. Killer Croc, a man-crocodile really doesn't work as well in that world because it would essentially have to be CG, I would think.
You're missing the point of Nolan's world being more realistic. Killer Croc, a man-crocodile really doesn't work as well in that world because it would essentially have to be CG, I would think.
Yeah, I guess. But it would be different from anything we've seen so far in both series. ('90s & Nolan)
