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Old 10-10-2010, 08:34 PM   #1
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Clearing up Canon Inconsistencies

It would be a really simple task to clear up the inconsistency issues between the YIJC, Films and Bantam novels. Just some suggestions to start:

-Peril at Delphi: Amend Indy's graduation date from Chicago in the book to June 1922; Have him start going to Sorbonne in the Fall of 1922.
-Fix dates after that to fit his new start date at Sorbonne.
-Amend the part in Peril at Delphi that he prefers skiing to baseball.
-Get rid of the marriage to Deidre since Lucas likely doesn't consider it canon. He could be ''with'' Deidre, just not married.
-Perhaps add references to Indy's war/spying service. Make it clear he served in the war; a token sentence or two on the subject is all that's required here.
-Have Indy or one of the Bantam novels mention Abner and/or Oxley offhand. Perhaps have Indy and Jack Shannon offhandedly mention Oxley and his obsession with Crystal Skulls; or amend McCoy's novels dealing with the Crystal Skull of Corzan to mention that an old pal of Indy's from college named Harold Oxley was obsessed with Crystal Skulls.
-Maybe amend Indy's and Deirdre's relationship and her death to late 1925-January 1926. If Deidre dies in January 1926, this allows for Indy to romance Marion later the same year (perhaps Fall 1926) while searching for the Staff of Ra. It gives him nearly all of 1926 for the Marion romance to happen.
-Change his interaction with Al Capone in 1927 so he and Capone recognize each other since they met in 1920 in the YIJC.
-Alter Indiana Jones and the Dinosaur Eggs to fit with the Temple of Doom sourcebook statement that he and Wu Human first met in 1914. Perhaps this is an inconsistency and they don't remember meeting then, though.
-Alter Indiana Jones and the Emperor's Tomb to make it seem as though Indy and Wu Han know each other already; Emperor's Tomb as it stands has them meeting just before the events of ToD.
-Alter Indiana Jones and the Philosopher's Stone to mention that Belloq and Indy's first meeting was in 1922 in Iraq, not 1933.
-Change Honduras to British Honduras in 1933 (though this really isn't a major deal since we're never told WHICH Honduras Indy is accused of being a graverobber in in Temple of Doom)
-Fix the date of his "vision quest" to 1913 instead of 1919.
-Change Crystal Skull in McCoy novels to "Cursed Skull" or something, since according to Lucas, Indy never saw a crystal skull outside of one in the British Museum before 1957.
-Fix Indiana Jones and the White Witch's description of Indy as a professor of Medieval literature to make him a professor of Archaeology. It's a simple one word fix that clears up an inconsistency.
-Perhaps change Indy's courses at Sorbonne to be Archaeology rather than Linguistics. He could minor in Archaeology while in Chicago and major in Linguistics there, and major in Archaeology at Sorbonne. While we're told he studied under Ravenwood in Chicago, he's not mentioned as being Indy's only teacher there, or his only teacher of archaeology.

Really, the Bantam novels only conflict with other EU materials and the YIJC mostly, and KOTCS to a small degree. The main grey area is MacGregor's early Indy novels. However as far as I'm aware, none of the Bantam books conflict with the original trilogy at all.
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Old 10-12-2010, 06:31 AM   #2
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Er.. are you suggesting we rewrite the novels Raiders? Or merely cover them in felt tip.

All I can say is: Poor Deirdre... having her marriage annuled like that. I don't care if we 'don't think' George considers it canon, hes probably never heard of her, he probably never heard of Sophia Hapgood either, but shes still part of my canon.
Nope. In my head Indy was indeed married to Deirdre, it was so brief and so tragic and proves the perfect rationale for him to make certain 'mistakes' when it comes to pursuing the far too young miss Ravenwood
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Old 10-12-2010, 07:53 PM   #3
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I'm with Jeremiah Jones.
There is no need to do some of the changes you've said with the novels.
Like change the Crystal Skull to "Cursed skull", Indy didn't said "I never went after Crystal Skulls before" in KOTCS, in my mind he just didn't mentioned the events to Mutt.

"Fix the date of his "vision quest" to 1913 instead of 1919."
That was fixed by the Ultimate Guide, no matter how out of place some of the events in that timeline are...

You just have to make some tinkering with the little inconsistencies. No need to do any major change, the exception being with Peril at Delphi.
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Old 03-01-2011, 06:14 AM   #4
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Your personal version of the Indy canon?

What is your personal version of what's canon in the Indyverse--I mean regardless of what's ''officially'' canon, what do you feel are the true items in Indy's history? And what level of "canonicity" do you put the various items in your personal Indy canon?

For me (all equally canon--the ''true'' chronology of Indy's life for me):
YIJC (1908-1920)
Young Indiana Jones and the Titanic Adventure (1912)
Bantham Novels (1922-1934)
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom (1935)
Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark (1936)
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (1912;1938)
Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis (1939)
Indiana Jones and the Army of the Dead (1943)
Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine (1947)
Indiana Jones and the Mystery of the Blues (1950 section)
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (1957)

It's too bad they didn't set KotCS in 1958, just a year later. That would make exactly 50 years of worth of adventures.
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Old 03-01-2011, 09:29 AM   #5
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Why just Titanic Adventure and not the rest of the Young Indy book series?



I'm pretty inclusive. Pretty much everything official, plus my own fanfics. A lot of stuff requires creative explanations or minor corrections to maintain consistency, but that's part of the fun.
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Old 03-01-2011, 09:42 AM   #6
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Young Indiana Jones Chronicles
Bantham Novels
Indiana Jones Adventures Volume 1
Temple of Doom
Raiders of the Lost Ark
Last Crusade
Fate of Atlantis
Infernal Machine
Mystery of the Blues 1950 section
Kingdom of the Crystal Skull


*few notes:

I was close to not putting the Bantham Novels. I'm not familiar with most of them, but from what I have read, they fill in the years with enough decent information on the character regardless of the plots/stories.

I left out most of the comics because they are just too campy and pulpy, but that's not to say they are bad/not entertaining.

Also left out Emperor's Tomb, nothing against the game itself, I just found the whole leading into Temple of Doom Shanghai portion to be a cheap gimmick.

For the 4 major films, I also include the other bits of knowledge found in the novels/comics.

I have watched Infernal Machine playthroughs (I have not played the game myself) but there is a nice gap in-between the years for that sort of story to take place, it fits well.

Only put in Indiana Jones Adventures Volume 1 because I didn't really like Volume 2, just personal preference here.

Anything that Lucas considers canon, is canon though, we all have to agree to that, the rest is plug'n play for your own pleasure.
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