TheRaider.net
 

Go Back   The Raven > The Films > Indiana Jones 5
User Name
Password

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 09-10-2010, 05:10 PM   #1
indytim
IndyFan
 
indytim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: England (you can get all kinds of transport there ... boat, plane, anything)
Posts: 324
Would Bradley Cooper make a good Indy?

Of course, no-one but the great Mr Ford could ever truly play Indy but I was thinking if another actor was ever cast to fill those well-trodden boots on the silver screen then maybe Bradley Cooper wouldn't be such a bad choice. I wasn't much of a fan when I first saw him in Alias but in his recent movie work Bradley has displayed that kind of rugged charm and cocksure yet fallible swagger that smacks of Indy. Just a thought

indytim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2010, 09:09 PM   #2
Mickiana
IndyFan
 
Mickiana's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Australia
Posts: 1,843
He could do it on looks, but he would have to get a hard edge about him in his Indy character.
Mickiana is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2010, 10:42 PM   #3
DocWhiskey
IndyFan
 
DocWhiskey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Second City
Posts: 2,385
Not a big fan of Bradley Cooper. At least in the roles that I've seen him in. He comes off as a real douche for the lack of a better word. Again, it could be because of the roles he plays.
DocWhiskey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2010, 01:45 AM   #4
indycast
IndyFan
 
indycast's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 270
After seeing Inception for a second time - I think Tom Hardy could make a fine Indy - but of course there is no one but Harrison that could make it work!

indycast is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2011, 03:58 AM   #5
Mickiana
IndyFan
 
Mickiana's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Australia
Posts: 1,843
Just saw Limitless and enjoyed it as a good romp. The scene when he is tearing through some sea side town in a fast sports car looking tanned with a couple days of stubble made me think he could be a good Indy.
Mickiana is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2011, 06:06 PM   #6
Toht's Arm
IndyFan
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Australia
Posts: 97
I'll add my vote for Tom Hardy over Bradley Cooper. Provided he can do the accent, of course.
Toht's Arm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2011, 08:51 PM   #7
Dark Horse
IndyFan
 
Dark Horse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: London, England
Posts: 171
Both wouldn't be bad actually.
Dark Horse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2011, 11:20 PM   #8
Indy Scout 117
IndyFan
 
Indy Scout 117's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Greeley, Colorado
Posts: 431
see i think it'd be difficult for anyone to take on the Indy role other than Harrison Ford. Ford knows how to play a hero role superbly. y'know how actors/actresses are best known for a specific kinda role, like hero, villain, damsel in distress, etc? you'd need someone who would A) look like Harrison Ford and B) know how to play a hero role like it's nobody's business. it'd be difficult to find someone like that, that i know of at least.
Indy Scout 117 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2011, 03:21 AM   #9
Darth Vile
IndyFan
 
Darth Vile's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 3,013
I think you have to be mindful that we're talking about a casting of an actor to play Indiana Jones and not Harrison Ford. The lines are blurred because, to most of us here, Ford is Indiana Jones... but for me it would be a mistake to automatically gravitate to someone who resembles Ford (be it physically or a similarity between characters they've portrayed).
Darth Vile is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2011, 08:40 PM   #10
Ebeneezer Jones
IndyFan
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 1
Mark Wahlberg...
Ebeneezer Jones is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2011, 11:02 PM   #11
Mickiana
IndyFan
 
Mickiana's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Australia
Posts: 1,843
A future actor playing Indiana Jones has to look like Indiana Jones, which means there has to be some likeness in most probability to Harrison Ford. This doesn't mean a carbon copy, but a reminiscence. I find Ford to be an almost boring actor, which is not a criticism, and that this lent itself to playing the morally ambiguous and hard-to-pinpoint character of Indiana Jones really well. That 'bland' character contrasted really well with the adventures he took on or was thrust into. This blandness also made him cool and detached and when he did express heightened emotions they took on greater effect.
Mickiana is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2011, 06:32 AM   #12
Darth Vile
IndyFan
 
Darth Vile's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 3,013
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mickiana
A future actor playing Indiana Jones has to look like Indiana Jones

I'm not sure what you mean Mickiana? How similar was Harrison Ford to Tom Selleck, Sean Connery to Daniel Craig, Michael Keaton to Christian Bale? Etc. etc.

Of course there are basic physical traits one most aspire towards e.g. the actor must have two legs (thinking of a Pete and Dud sketch), he must be of a general physical build e.g not looking like Woody Allen. But other than that anything goes... You have to choose the best actor for the job, not the one who closest resembles the original actor.
Darth Vile is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2011, 07:04 AM   #13
Montana Smith
IndyFan
 
Montana Smith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: A bunker full of junk
Posts: 9,410
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth Vile
Of course there are basic physical traits one most aspire towards e.g. the actor must have two legs (thinking of a Pete and Dud sketch)...

After Mutt's swinging with the monkeys a one-legged Tarzan could be an improvement.
Montana Smith is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2011, 02:53 PM   #14
Mickiana
IndyFan
 
Mickiana's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Australia
Posts: 1,843
Without running away from an definitive answer, I was talking in general terms. He'd have to be within a certain range of height. Too tall or too short is going to be a problem. For instance, some have previously argued that Selleck might have been too tall and too ruggedly built with it and swinging off his whips might have seemed then to be too unrealistic.

He's got to be relatively athletic, neither too thin or too muscular/fat. As you say a Woody Allen wouldn't suffice. So, once stature is right all we have left is his face and head to really see for most of the movie because once he has his trademark clothes on he is supposed to be Indiana Jones and Professor Henry Jones Jnr. Too round a face or too long and thin won't do. None of his features can be extreme in any way. Harrison looked like Indiana Jones is one way of putting it.

No extreme features, lean and muscular (no double chin or puffy cheeks - although Harrison was close to this in LC), full head of hair, right proportions in the face and the ability to grow a good stubble. He is handsome because there are no distracting features. I suppose these are the parameters for choosing someone. Sorry I seem to be vague but I don't think it's easy as there's not a science to it (or is there?).
Mickiana is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2011, 05:42 PM   #15
emtiem
IndyFan
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: London, UK
Posts: 577
I like him, maybe he's bit more pretty boy than rough-and-ready as Indy is so far, but I suppose that's true when you compare Roger Moore to Sean Connery; as Darth Vile points out above.
emtiem is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2011, 08:01 AM   #16
Darth Vile
IndyFan
 
Darth Vile's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 3,013
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mickiana
Without running away from an definitive answer, I was talking in general terms. He'd have to be within a certain range of height. Too tall or too short is going to be a problem. For instance, some have previously argued that Selleck might have been too tall and too ruggedly built with it and swinging off his whips might have seemed then to be too unrealistic.

He's got to be relatively athletic, neither too thin or too muscular/fat. As you say a Woody Allen wouldn't suffice. So, once stature is right all we have left is his face and head to really see for most of the movie because once he has his trademark clothes on he is supposed to be Indiana Jones and Professor Henry Jones Jnr. Too round a face or too long and thin won't do. None of his features can be extreme in any way. Harrison looked like Indiana Jones is one way of putting it.

No extreme features, lean and muscular (no double chin or puffy cheeks - although Harrison was close to this in LC), full head of hair, right proportions in the face and the ability to grow a good stubble. He is handsome because there are no distracting features. I suppose these are the parameters for choosing someone. Sorry I seem to be vague but I don't think it's easy as there's not a science to it (or is there?).

I think the quintessential thing Ford brought to the role (similar to what Bruce Willis has done well over the past couple of decades and what Paul Newman was good at in the 50's/60's) is he can be hugely heroic, but he can (surpisingly for the muscular type) also appear physically vunerable... and I don't think that's a taken 'from the page' thing... but an inate skill hard to immitate.

If Raiders had been made in the 50's/60's I'd definatley pitched it at Paul Newman rather than a Rock Hudson or Cary Grant type. And although clearly Newman was a good looking guy, he was a physically slight man... which leads me to think that it's what they embody which is important rather than being 6ft or with a full head of hair etc...
Darth Vile is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2011, 08:17 AM   #17
Rocket Surgeon
Guest
 
Rocket Surgeon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 8,892
Nope. He's too smug.
Rocket Surgeon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2011, 01:17 PM   #18
Dr. Gonzo
IndyFan
 
Dr. Gonzo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 1,538
Would Bradley Cooper make a good Indiana Jones?

No.
The short answer is "No."
The long answer is "No he wouldn't."

Rocket's sentiments are shared.
Dr. Gonzo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2011, 04:58 PM   #19
Mickiana
IndyFan
 
Mickiana's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Australia
Posts: 1,843
But he needn't act smug if he were to play the role at all. Privately he can be as smug as he wants. Onscreen he does what the script and the director wants. (place smug emoticon here)
Mickiana is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2011, 07:59 PM   #20
Toht's Arm
IndyFan
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Australia
Posts: 97
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth Vile
I think the quintessential thing Ford brought to the role (similar to what Bruce Willis has done well over the past couple of decades and what Paul Newman was good at in the 50's/60's) is he can be hugely heroic, but he can (surpisingly for the muscular type) also appear physically vunerable...

I remember that Nathan Fillion commented in the Serenity and/or Firefly DVD special features that he took a Harrison Ford/Indiana Jones approach to his action scenes. He said that Ford always made it look like being punched in the face actually hurt, and he tried to mimic that.

I think that's one of the things that Ford brings to Indy - he always looks like a man that is really vulnerable when he's getting the sh*t kicked out of him. If there ever were a replacement such as Cooper, they'd have to ensure they followed suit. He's not Superman.
Toht's Arm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2011, 08:47 PM   #21
Mickiana
IndyFan
 
Mickiana's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Australia
Posts: 1,843
Nor is he limitless!
Mickiana is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-23-2011, 01:39 PM   #22
The Man
IndyFan
 
The Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: The Mola Ram School Of Cardiology
Posts: 5,308
Josh Brolin might give the gig a better lash.
The Man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2011, 07:34 AM   #23
AndyLGR
IndyFan
 
AndyLGR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 490
The movies Bradley Cooper's been in have certainly seem him to be very smug in them. Thats not to say he couldn't do it though. I think looks wise he fits the bill.

Going slightly off topic and someone may be able to clarify this, but I'm sure I remember gossip years ago of Indy having a brother who would appear in a film with him, and this lead to talk of Tom Selleck maybe getting his chance to appear in an Indy movie as said brother. But I actually was always of the opinion that Dennis Quaid reminded me in a certain way of Harrison Ford. Obviously Quaid is probably too old anyway now.
AndyLGR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2011, 10:11 AM   #24
Rocket Surgeon
Guest
 
Rocket Surgeon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 8,892
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mickiana
But he needn't act smug if he were to play the role at all. Privately he can be as smug as he wants. Onscreen he does what the script and the director wants. (place smug emoticon here)
I have a feeling he couldn't contain it...

I don't think he could convince me he was a college professor especially conveying the authority...

...I've seen no evidence he can.
Rocket Surgeon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2011, 03:52 PM   #25
Mickiana
IndyFan
 
Mickiana's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Australia
Posts: 1,843
I have a feeling he could convey the authority. In Limitless he portrayed pre NZT and post NZT pretty well. Rocket, when you say he comes across as smug, are you referring to his character while under the use of NZT? If so, I would agree with you, but that is a part of the change which NZT causes. The total self confidence contains high levels of smugness. But compare that with his loser self pre NZT. He plays a droll, very uninspiring character well. This type of transition in a character is similar to the transition between Professor Henry Jones Jnr in the classroom and leather clad, whip cracking Indiana Jones on an adventure. I know it's going to be pointed out how it isn't similar, but I'm going to put it forward anyway.
Mickiana is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:19 AM.