i was thinking that it'd be cool with vin diesel as the villian in indy4. of course, his pricetag would be way up there too. still, i think he'd be great, since he's so dark and brooding sometimes. i'd be fine with it, but i think we've already had too(parden the pun) many hairless headed villian(vogel and moloram). am i missing any here?
Nah, no Diesel. He's too modern somehow... don't know if that makes any sense. I'd rather see somebody like Kenneth Branagh as a clever, smooth-talking villain, rather than just a tough-guy villain. Of course, he'd have a slew of hench men to beat Indy up, so we'd still get that aspect.
wow! that actually sounds like a good idea. but i don't think he would work as the main villian, but maybe as a precursor to the story. maybe as a new york gangster who's pissed at indy for stealing his girlfriend or something. i don't know how that would fit, but i can picture vin diesal as a small villain, like the villain at the beginning of last crusade on the boat.
lets not bash diesel please. i think hes kinda cool, but not indy cool. i thought fast and the furious was great, but not real good acting. anyway, i've always wanted a THE HAUNTED MESA video adaption made to screen, and have always pictured vin diesel as the main villian(zipacna). the shaved head and major muscles just seem great as villian matrerial whens he's in a dark mood.
i even thought he did a great acting job in saving private ryan, though i though the whole plot for the movie was, well, not to coppy the movie, but FUBAR. if youve seen it, you know what it means.
Originally posted by QueZTone LOL Raffey, you really insulted our beloved Pat Roach there
What insult? He play a a number of thugs in the IJ trilogy that didn't have any lines, if I remember correctly. I doubt if the ex wrestler was ever in Oscar contention!
Yeah Raff's right - in LC he didn't even get a chance to be a thug, just considered one from what history tells us...he plays thugs (well, technically, only one Thug, but you know what I mean...)
Doubt if any of you will have seen it, but the BBC1 show Deadringers has a great 'British bad guys' sketch every week with Ian McKellan and Alan Rickman fighting over who should play the bad guy in a film. They end up killing each other, then Brian Blessed shows up to fill in... LOL! OK, you'd have to see it to get it I guess... But Alan Rickman would be cool! (Thinking more along the lines of the Sheriff of Nottingham in Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves than Prof. Snape... )
Originally posted by Indy 256 Naah Diesel is the comercial action hero of the '00 (as in '90). I don't really see him playing the villan.
I agree. I don't think that there would be good chemestry betwixt harrison and vin. not that i am degrading them as actors or whatever and i am not saying that they could never work together. I just dont think that it would work in an Indy film.
Van Diesel as a villian might be 'cool' but it wouldnt be interesting, Indy villians are very different from normal villians they seem to be men that have fallen into evil in their pursuit of the power of the artifact in question except the Muscle roles (Toht, Vogel etc) Van Diesel cannot really do either and besides i dont really care for him as an actor.
we-re talking about Vin Diesel, Not whoever this Van Diesel is? whos he? wad-did he play in ? hahaha, sonofa--. anyway, thisis ford were talking about. he seems to have a nautrual fear of guys with bigger muscles than him. still, maybe not as a lead villian, maybe henchman? i like his flicks.
I wouldn't mind someone like Rickman or Hoppkins, Oldman was already a bad guy reverse to Ford, but he did a mean russian. Diesel? That guy's a joke, he's nothing, he's a bad action 'hero' who has no tallen and should have never made a movie, why would anyone consider him?
Hoppkins would be a scary villian, cause you know the first thing everyone's going to think of is Hannible Lecter, not Hearts in Atlantis! Rickman is a genius, he was awesome in Die Hard, perfect villian, he'd be great as well. Who knows? We'll just have to wait and see I guess.
Seems to me it should be someone who we don't really know of, like Freeman and Puri and Glover (no offense to 3 fine actors), not some big Hollywood star. After all, the only 3 big stars in Western cinema that appeared in the trilogy are Harrison Ford, Sean Connery, and Dan Aykroid.
Originally posted by Raffey Vin Diesel is a one dimension actor and would make a terrible adversary unless you made him a Pat Roach type thug and gave him no lines.
I'd prefer a intectual adversary played by a decent actor. Maybe Gary Oldman or Anthony Hopskins.
Must agree with you. I really don't see Vin's appeal. He's got a great agent and publicist though. But, it won't last forever. Five years from now, it'll be "Vin who?"
I like your idea of an intellectual adversary. Hopkins would be great. Oldman would be awesome, but rumor has it he might be a little busy. Rumor is he's signed on for Harry Potter 3 and 4, but there's been no confirmation. Speaking of which, it's too bad Alan Rickman will be busy as well.
I think i will reserve my opinions on the casting of the villain until we know something about the villian as there is a great difference between a Vogel and a Donovan.
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