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Old 06-18-2004, 12:28 PM   #1
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Does Young Indy belong in Indy's timeline?

I don't know if this goes in the YIJC forum, but here goes:

Everyone has their own opinions on what they think of the Young Indiana Jones Chronicles series. When you think of Indy's life, do YOU count the YIJC in Indy's lifeline, or do you think the series was so farfetched and/or disinteresting that you discount it altogether and have your own theories about how Indy's childhood was?
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Old 06-18-2004, 12:31 PM   #2
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I definately feel that Young Indy served time in the military. So I'd have to say, yes.

However, Ideally, I would've much rather explored how he came to be a rogue - selling old relics on the black market for pocket cash.

Seems the YIJC forgot that's who Indy was, originally...
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Old 06-18-2004, 01:02 PM   #3
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Yes, I consider YIJC part of the Indy canon. Especially considering the Mystery of the Blues movie, with the HF bookends.

Another thing that is interesting is how much of Indy's background it shows. The way he worked through college and stuff was really interesting and plausible. Also, LC had more depth to me after I saw the SPF episode with Henry Sr. in it. Those sorts of things help the Indy timeline, in my opinion.
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Old 06-18-2004, 01:36 PM   #4
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P'haps this one on young Indy table? P'haps?

And Indyologist... you just can't quit using me as an inspiration, can you?


Anyway, as I stated in some other thread earlier, to me... part of YIJC belongs on that Indy timeline I've formed in my head... part of it does not.
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Old 06-18-2004, 02:01 PM   #5
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And Indyologist... you just can't quit using me as an inspiration, can you?

What? You mean you don't know about the Finn altar I have in my closet at home? I call you the Finn-tastic One! LOL!
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Old 06-18-2004, 02:02 PM   #6
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[QUOTEAnd Indyologist... you just can't quit using me as an inspiration, can you?

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BTW, I've been TRYING to get out of your head, Finn, but it's awful dark in here. Could you light a Zippo by your ear?
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Old 06-18-2004, 02:04 PM   #7
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Sorry, hon... but the route is so full of twists and turns into that point you're standing that the light of guidance will never reach that far.
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Old 06-18-2004, 02:21 PM   #8
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I also agree that Young Indy fits into the Indiana Jones timeline. There are so many things from the show that lead right into the movies.

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Ideally, I would've much rather explored how he came to be a rogue...

Seems the YIJC forgot that's who Indy was, originally...


Of course Young Indy isn't Indy YET, but over the course of the show you can see him developing into Indy. And if the series had continued, there were plans to introduce Abner and Belloq which would have more closely tied the series and the trilogy together.
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Old 06-18-2004, 02:30 PM   #9
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What? You mean you don't know about the Finn altar I have in my closet at home? I call you the Finn-tastic One! LOL!
Wow. First Horsie and now you. I'm starting to think I'm slightly liked here.
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Old 06-18-2004, 07:48 PM   #10
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Well, you can call me strange, or what ever, but to me there is no Indy timeline.

For me the timeline starts and finishes at the start and finish of every movie or story.

With limited exceptions I don't know what he did before, or even yesterday.

It's only important what he's doing right now, and what he must do.

It's easier that way.

I don't give a Rat's *** that he met Charles DeGaulle 20 years ago, ...I care that there's a huge boulder rolling down a chute that's about to crush him to death.
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Old 06-18-2004, 08:07 PM   #11
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Well I say if its got the lucas name on it it must be Indy.

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Old 06-18-2004, 08:12 PM   #12
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Yes, I consider YIJC part of the Indy canon. Especially considering the Mystery of the Blues movie, with the HF bookends.

Another thing that is interesting is how much of Indy's background it shows. The way he worked through college and stuff was really interesting and plausible. Also, LC had more depth to me after I saw the SPF episode with Henry Sr. in it. Those sorts of things help the Indy timeline, in my opinion.


They put Henry Sr. in one? Did he look enough like Sean Connery? Did he have the right accent?
I don't count any of them as part of the series. I like Indy's past to remain more of a mystery.
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Old 06-18-2004, 09:35 PM   #13
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I don't count any of them as part of the series. I like Indy's past to remain more of a mystery.

Strider, we're reading the same sheet of music.
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Old 06-18-2004, 09:41 PM   #14
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Yeah, I have to agree.

I have a tendency to discount anything outside the three Indy films the same way I discount the Star Wars Christmas Special as part of that other popular Lucas series.
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Old 06-18-2004, 09:45 PM   #15
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Strider, we're reading the same sheet of music.


It's good music to! Indy needs to be mysterious! He's more appealing that way!
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Old 06-18-2004, 11:03 PM   #16
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They put Henry Sr. in one? Did he look enough like Sean Connery? Did he have the right accent?


Indy's father was in about a dozen episodes. And Lloyd Owen, who played him, does a great Sean Connery impression, IMO.

The relationship between father and son was great to see in the series. It devolved as Indy grew older, especially after his mother died, and I think it was well written and portrayed.
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Old 06-19-2004, 07:04 AM   #17
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The young indy series is definitly part of it IMO. Like Webley said, if it has the lucas name, then its Indy for sure. But I really count most of the novels (if not all) to the timeline too. Why? More is good! The more adventures he has been in, the bigger the hero he is.

Even the games are official timelines for me The ones I've played. (havent played Lost Kingdom and those old ones though)

Oh and monkey, if you look at each one seperatly...well..some characters apart from Indy himself do feature in more than one adventure. So it makes it more fun if you recognise it as one big story instead of seperate stuff. You put more value in his friends that way imo.
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Old 06-19-2004, 12:10 PM   #18
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Good point Quez, about building upon supporting characters, and carrying forth that information into the next story or the next.

Like in the old Doc Savage Adventures, you knew the habits, mannerisms, etc. of all of his team members. That was cool.

What I don't like is wallowing in the Indiana Jones Canon. I don't like it when it limits the character. Too much detail about his past makes him less interesting, not more, for the simple reason that you are less curious.

And pinpointing exactly where he was, and when, can limit the opportunities for storylines.
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Old 06-20-2004, 05:24 AM   #19
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It is definetly in the timeline.
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Old 06-20-2004, 12:23 PM   #20
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For me YIJ can either stay or go, I don't particularly care for it personally and I suspect that future generations of Indy-fans will throw it away.

To be honest it conflicts with my whole view of Indy's appeal (that air of mystery) and also does seem to contradict my view of Indy as a character. YIJ presents him as far too much of an aristocrat for my tastes galavanting around Europe etc, does this really look like the same upbringing that the YIJ section in LC hinted at in which he lives in a normal house in an obscure corner of Utah. 1
As for Indy fighting in WWI I just can't see him really as part of that generation, I cannot accept that he spent 3 years in the trenches - that sort of experience changes a man and I just don't think it makes sense in regards to Indy.
I could accept him as having joined up against his fathers wishes when America entered the war in 1917 and perhaps serving for a short time but not for 3 years! Besides something like serving in the French Foreign Legion for a time seems a little more apt for a character like Indy.
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Old 06-20-2004, 02:52 PM   #21
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I think it's more exciting not to know that much about Indy's childhood or past. For example, in raiders, it was much better the audience had hints that Indy and Marion were together but we didn't get the whole story. I don't consider young Indy a part of his timeline.

Maybe it's just me...but it seems young Indy was just a franchise to milk the fame of the Indy trilogy. Lucas seems to enjoy doing things like that.

I don't know a lot about young Indy. But I think that's because i'm the only person here (to my knowledge) that really doesn't care about young Indy. It just doesn't seem interesting to me in the least.

As for Indy being enlisted, I can't buy it. He doesn't seem like he carries the scars of war one would have if they had been fighting at such a young age. Plus, an adventerous archeologist scouring the globe for pricless artifacts seems more appealing then the same man at a younger age at war.

I mean...yeah...alright...he's at war...now what? oh goody! Clich'e romance subplots!
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Old 06-30-2004, 01:53 AM   #22
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I agree with most of what I've seen here. I like the whole mysteriousness of Indiana Jones and I don't really consider the YIJC into my idea of the timeline.
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