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Old 08-09-2004, 05:05 PM   #1
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Saving Private Ryan

My dad prefers Saving Private Ryan to Raiders of the lost Ark.
While I enjoyed SPR it was no ROTLA. Do others agree?
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Old 08-09-2004, 05:44 PM   #2
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They don't compare. SPR is an excellent movie. Did he see HBO's Band of Brothers? If not, recommend it to him. It's excellent too. I can't watch too many other war movies after seeing these. These are the real deal. While SPR is somewhat fictious, almost everything is based on fact.

I watch SPR or BoB several times a year. I watch SPR on June 6 and Veterans Day. I watch BoB around Memorial Day. Like I said, both are great. They can't compare to action movies like RotLA.
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Old 08-09-2004, 08:34 PM   #3
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Re: Saving Private Ryan

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My dad prefers Saving Private Ryan to Raiders of the lost Ark.
While I enjoyed SPR it was no ROTLA. Do others agree?


You might as well compare apples to oranges. They are not alike. They are not supposed to be compared.
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Old 08-12-2004, 01:02 AM   #4
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You might as well compare apples to oranges. They are not alike. They are not supposed to be compared.

I'm not with you, they are two movies directed by Speilberg. Why can't you compare them?
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Old 08-12-2004, 07:52 AM   #5
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I'm not with you, they are two movies directed by Speilberg. Why can't you compare them?


They are nothing alike and cannot compare. SPR is a movie about WWII and how soldiers suffered. It shows the horrors of war and is the most realistic war film ever.

Indiana Jones is an Action Film with comedy. It is set in WWII but other than some nazis you never see the war.

They are nothing a like.
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Old 08-12-2004, 05:49 PM   #6
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Not only are the genres different, their goals are completely different as well. Both are great films, it's just a matter of what you prefer.
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Old 08-22-2004, 08:07 PM   #7
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SPR is about U.S. Army rangers trying to rescue Pvt. Ryan and the hardships of war. (based on a true event).

ROLTA is completeley fictional and has a completely different story.

If you were to ask me witch one would i prefer i could not answer because they are just so different. If i was feeling like watching a film that showed what soldiers went through during WWII then I would watch SPR. If I wanted to watch something with adventure/comedy/action I would watch ROTLA.
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Old 08-22-2004, 09:07 PM   #8
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don't even bother answering... just like most of her first threads this was created with a clear comprehension that the two films couldn't be compared...she wanted an avatar...really badly

the result was about 25 threads like this...just leave it alone and it will go away
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Old 08-24-2004, 08:47 AM   #9
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just leave it alone and it will go away


Yep, it'll go down the pages.
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Old 08-25-2004, 07:36 AM   #10
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SPR is about U.S. Army rangers trying to rescue Pvt. Ryan and the hardships of war. (based on a true event).

ROLTA is completeley fictional and has a completely different story.

If you were to ask me witch one would i prefer i could not answer because they are just so different. If i was feeling like watching a film that showed what soldiers went through during WWII then I would watch SPR. If I wanted to watch something with adventure/comedy/action I would watch ROTLA.


Exactly, Element. Exactly.

I watched SPR for the first time last year. What a powerful film. It was really disturbing and it made me appreciate my freedom on a whole new level. I surprized myself by watching it because I usually can't stomach bloody movies. The only reason I can tolerate the heart scene in TofD is because I've seen it so many times. But again, powerful movie. It really helped me to understand what kind of hell war really is.
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Old 08-28-2004, 02:18 PM   #11
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Lightbulb The "Cylon Phenomenon"

In the Indiana Jones films it is perfectly acceptable to kill off "Nazis" without a second thought. (Note that they are never referred to as "Germans", despite the fact that many WW2-era Germans were not Nazi Party members.) Yet it is a tragedy if a single American/ally is killed. This double-standard carries through to other Spielberg films, reaching its extreme in Schindler's List.

Dehumanization/subhumanization of "the enemy" always makes it easier to exterminate him. I think of this as the "Cylon Phenomenon" because of the uncaring turkey-shoot of Cylons in the original Battlestar Galactica (while even an injury to a Colonial was a matter for emotional crisis). But it applies to many other films, such as the Imperial Stormtroopers in Star Wars, who were similarly (and symbolically) "faceless", thus could be killed casually.

It is not a pleasant human characteristic, and unfortunately is echoed too closely in reality, where lately, for example, mass Iraqi deaths are ignored while even a single American death is a tragedy.

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Old 08-28-2004, 03:31 PM   #12
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I'm going to say that over 85% of germans were nazis. Not because they were soldiers but because they knew exactly what Hitler was doing and didn't do anything....they let it happen.

if you were a jew and you knew what these people did to your ancestors and you made a movie about it would you take pity on them?
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if you were a jew and you knew what these people did to your ancestors and you made a movie about it would you take pity on them?


Spielberg said that after Schindler's List he wouldn't make any more films with nazis, but he couldn’t resist Saving Private Ryan and Band of Brothers. Hollywood has made too many films with nazis as the badies. Lets not forget that the Japanese committed many war crimes. What I hate are films like 'Empire of the Sun' and 'The Thin Red Line" which show the Japanese in a good light.
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Old 08-28-2004, 05:26 PM   #14
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I once read that Saving Private Ryan was a movie about Tom Hanks getting killed trying to save Matt Damon's career!


Actually, Saving Private Ryan is great movie. It ranks pretty high on my fav's list. But no matter how good it is; it does not define its genre of film.

Not the way RotLA redefined action/adventure movies.
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Old 08-29-2004, 01:50 AM   #15
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Question The Great Mandala

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I'm going to say that over 85% of germans were nazis. Not because they were soldiers but because they knew exactly what Hitler was doing and didn't do anything....they let it happen ...

Do I understand you correctly: If a chief of state invades nations which haven't attacked his nation, kills and maims thousands of their people in the process, and takes scores of others into prisons and concentration camps where they are held for years incommunicado, humiliated, and tortured, some to death - and his own citizens know exactly what he is doing and don't do anything ... they let it happen ... this makes them ...

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Do I understand you correctly: If a chief of state invades nations which haven't attacked his nation, kills and maims thousands of their people in the process, and takes scores of others into prisons and concentration camps where they are held for years incommunicado, humiliated, and tortured, some to death - and his own citizens know exactly what he is doing and don't do anything ... they let it happen ... this makes them ...

Michael Aquino


I can't understand what you're trying to express here.
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Old 08-29-2004, 02:35 PM   #17
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to answer maquino's question it makes them the bad guys.

Not because they did anything wrong...but because of what they didn't do.

think of it this way: someone starts your nieghbor's house on fire. you look out fyour window and see the guy who did it. You get a good look....but you don't report it. Guess what? you're the bad guy.

you're enabling this vicious act, and more of them to be commited.
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