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Old 04-04-2005, 12:44 PM   #1
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Raiders' boulder & Scrooge McDuck

Treasure and lost civilizations went hand in hand.
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Old 04-06-2005, 04:29 PM   #2
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Whoa, total ignorance?

This boggles the mind. I'm going to have to check my Junior Woodchuck Manual to figure this one out.
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Old 04-07-2005, 04:52 AM   #3
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I prefer Don Rosa.
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Old 04-07-2005, 05:14 AM   #4
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Heliograph, thanks for this revelation!

Pardon my ignorance... I always thought that the Donald Duck Disney universe (a la Duck Tales) was ripping off Indy. You learn something new every day.

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This boggles the mind. I'm going to have to check my Junior Woodchuck Manual to figure this one out.

As the vaunted Manual is a compilation of the knowledge in the Lost Library of Alexandria... I'm sure you can find something helpful in this situation!

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Old 04-07-2005, 05:39 AM   #5
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Carl Barks Rules

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Heliograph, thanks for this revelation!

Pardon my ignorance... I always thought that the Donald Duck Disney universe (a la Duck Tales) was ripping off Indy. You learn something new every day.,,,

Au contraire, Spielberg and Lucas borrowed from Disney.

http://home.earthlink.net/~vathek/Wind.html

"Edward Summer, a writer and film producer who is author of "Uncle Scrooge McDuck, His Life and Times" (Celestial Arts, 1980), said Mr. Barks had a wandering and inventive imagination that inspired others, including George Lucas and Stephen Spielberg. "

"'The rolling rock sequence at the beginning of 'Raiders of the Lost Ark' was consciously borrowed from one of the Uncle Scrooge stories, 'The Seven Cities of Cibola,' " Mr. Summer said."

-New York Times
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Old 04-07-2005, 09:01 AM   #6
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Au contraire, Spielberg and Lucas borrowed from Disney.

Very cool. I'd like to see something about this added to the "influences" section on the main site.

A couple of questions: what would be the best way to read these vintage comics? Are they compiled in "The Life and Times of Uncle Scrooge McDuck"? How close to the comics were some of the Duck Tales TV shows?

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Old 04-07-2005, 09:06 AM   #7
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Are they compiled in "The Life and Times of Uncle Scrooge McDuck"?

No. The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck is a book made by Keno Don Rosa. It is based on Barks's stories and tells how Uncle Scrooge became the richest duck in the world. Almost all the stories take place after that.

The Duck Tales has nothing to do with these stories.

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Old 04-07-2005, 09:39 AM   #8
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No. The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck is a book made by Keno Don Rosa. It is based on Barks's stories and tells how Uncle Scrooge became the richest duck in the world. Almost all the stories take place after that.

Are we talking about the same thing? This book prominently features Bark's name and claims to be "a rich collection encompassing McDuck's greatest adventures."

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Old 04-07-2005, 09:44 AM   #9
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I was talking about this book. I don't know anything about the book you mentioned.

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Old 04-07-2005, 09:48 AM   #10
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They should work on making more unique titles.
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Old 04-07-2005, 02:39 PM   #11
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The titles are confusing.

Barks wrote the comics in the 'Forties, 'Fifties, and "Sixties. (I had first editions and didn't even know it!!)

"Donald Duck Finds Pirate Gold," a story of 64 pages based on an original scenario by Bob Karp, first Published in October, 1942. It was the first Donald Duck story originally produced for an American comic book and also the first involving Donald and his nephews in a treasure hunting expedition, in this case for the treasure of Henry Morgan. Barks would later use the treasure hunting theme in many of his stories.

Barks' stories were humorous adventure stories with a dark, defeatist undertone. They found popularity not only among young children but adults as well. Despite the fact that Barks had done little traveling his stories took his duck characters around the globe into the most remote or magnificent of locations.

I knew Spielberg had acknowledge the influence of Barks, but did not know Lucas had too. Many of us who read comic books in the 'Fifties were marked by the experience.

Ducktales came a generation later and it was an attempt to recycle the magic. I caught one or two on TV, but they just were shown at the right time for me.
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Old 04-07-2005, 03:47 PM   #12
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Are we really speaking seriously when we speak of Lucas taking part of Disney´s work to make Raiders???
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Old 04-07-2005, 04:50 PM   #13
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Yes, check out the quote from the New York Times above. Spielberg and Lucas have conceded it.

That doesn't mean it doesn't owe alot to the serials or for that matter, Carl Barks doesn't owe something to the serials, but treasure adventures linked to true lost civilizations were Barks' style.
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Old 04-07-2005, 05:39 PM   #14
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Au contraire, Spielberg and Lucas borrowed from Disney.

"'The rolling rock sequence at the beginning of 'Raiders of the Lost Ark' was consciously borrowed from one of the Uncle Scrooge stories, 'The Seven Cities of Cibola,' " Mr. Summer said."

-New York Times

VERY interesting as I always thought the rolling boulder was taken from
"Journey to the Center of the Earth" (1959). What is the date for
"The Seven Cities of Cibola"?
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Old 04-08-2005, 01:06 AM   #15
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In Finnish it's Sunien seitsemän kaupunkia. First published in September 1954. Uncle Scrooge #7.



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lol, its funny, how is that called in your countries? In mine its called Tio Gilito, in FInland Uncle Scrooge?? and in your countries??
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Old 04-08-2005, 03:14 AM   #17
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In Finnish it's Sunien seitsemän kaupunkia. First published in September 1954. Uncle Scrooge #7.

GREAT! Thanks for posting that. I checked out the link and it's
completely convincing.

I'm an Indy fan and a Disney fan ('60s/'70s) but you guys
"take the cake". Thanks VP, Heliograph and Deadlock.
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Old 04-08-2005, 04:14 AM   #18
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how is that called in your countries?

How what is called? The Seven Cities of Cibola is Sunien seitsemän kaupunkia. Uncle Scrooge (character) is Roope Ankka or Roope-setä. The Uncle Scrooge magazine is Aku Ankka in Finland.
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Old 04-08-2005, 04:28 AM   #19
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Uncle Scrooge the character
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Old 04-08-2005, 11:54 AM   #20
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Can you just hear someone saying, "Snakes! I hate snakes."
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Old 12-14-2007, 12:46 PM   #21
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Raiders' boulder & Scrooge McDuck

Comic Book Resources posted a new article on an "comic book legend" where the rolling boulder scene from "Raiders of the Lost Ark" was an homage an "Uncle Scrooge" comic by Carl Barks:

http://goodcomics.comicbookresources...-revealed-133/



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Old 12-14-2007, 02:05 PM   #22
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that is so cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I love carl barks so much and his successor don rosa, these are great adventure stories with an actual historic background.

carl barks took everything out of the national graphic for his stories settings and historical background
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Old 12-14-2007, 02:09 PM   #23
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the other way around there are a lot of homages from don rosa to indy:
for example in the story: The Magnificient Seven (Minus Four) Caballeros

here is a picture

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Old 12-14-2007, 03:25 PM   #24
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Funny, this was discussed not long ago...



Rosa is an Indyfan, it doesn't much more obvious than that.
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Old 12-27-2007, 04:49 PM   #25
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And Scrooge McDuck lends himself to Indy type adventures. After all Scrooge, Donald and the nephews were searching for ancient artifacts long before Indiana Jones was created !
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