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Old 10-27-2005, 10:55 AM   #1
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Was MArions Bar for Rich folk?

I was watching RotLA last night, and a few things have always bothered me about the bar scene.

1) Jack Daniels is not a high enough proof to ignite the way they make it look, you need a spirt over 120 proof, not 90 proof, think cherries flambe, we use 151 rum to ignite that.

2) How the hell in Nepal has the kinda cash to buy the liqour Marion is serving there. We see a bottle of Jack Daniels, Jim Beam, Johnny Red. In the mid 1930 in a country like that? Give me a break, you would need some pretty spendy people to bu these drinks, not locals, unless this is an upscale bar. Jack Daniels in Bars in Africa today, is a supre pemium, hell most bars in America can not afford to put JD in their well, and it is always a call drink.

3) The beautiful back bar. While we never really get to see what her back bar is stocked with, it looks like a lot of excotic Cognacs, and high end spirts (each spirt bottle has an individual shape) once again this tells me a ton of money has been spent stocking this bar, and form whom. I doubt this was an international crossroads for travelers?
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Old 10-27-2005, 12:37 PM   #2
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At least we now know why Marion was never able to make enough to get back to the States . . . . and we have further proof that at least one Ravenwoods had a serious affinity with for drink.
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Old 10-27-2005, 01:01 PM   #3
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I agree, the whole thing is fishy . . . The ude she is int he drinking contest with looks Scottish, not Asian, well he actually looks drunk, so I guess that makes him Irish.

Hmmm, maybe the "Raven, filled a craven forsomehting other than libation"

Dirty stinkin \/\/#0®€ . . . .

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Old 10-27-2005, 01:16 PM   #4
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Wouldn't you, wavign around 3,000 bucks, in 1930's money . . . Hell, I bet J-Z would be all over him . . .(kidding, my innocent threads seem to get closed down easy around here), but really does anyone else think the selection of booze is strange?
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Old 10-27-2005, 01:49 PM   #5
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Old 10-27-2005, 01:50 PM   #6
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What language, i think you can find that word int he bible?

Which word, dirty, stinkin' or whore, because last time I checked none of these were offensive. This is a serious thread about a question abotu on of the most serious scenes in RotLA? Where is the problem?

Again the line of what language passes and what doesn't pass is very vague, and seems to change at random!
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Old 10-27-2005, 01:55 PM   #7
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Itq vinq. *Yawn*
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Old 10-27-2005, 01:57 PM   #8
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Finn, help me out here, since when is that a verboten word, is prostitute, trick, Mary, better? It is the oldest profession, and well it can't be that bad?
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Old 10-27-2005, 01:59 PM   #9
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Well, back to the serious nature of this thread, does anyone else think it is strange that Marion has these expensive imported liqours at her bar in Asia? Really, and was this a mistake tryoing to make Jack Daniels more flammable than it really is? Any thoughts?
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Old 10-27-2005, 02:10 PM   #10
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It is all in the context.

You know, I never saw this post in all the years I have been on Indy forums. My assumption was that is was pretty seedy looking at the clientele and the betting and other goings on. I never thought about the choice of liquor. Interesting...

I have seen Jack Daniels at every bar I have gone to in the northeast, as well as several throughout the country. Is it really considered a primo whiskey? In fact, I am seeing a lot of the single malt Scotch whiskys coming onto the scene. Particularly Glenlivet.

I need to get out more...
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Old 10-27-2005, 02:20 PM   #11
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Actually, in America we look down at Jack Daniels, but in fact it really is a high end whiskey, no not as high end as a single batch Bourbon, or even a single barrell whiskey, remember all bourbon is whiskey but not all whiskey is bourbon. The difference is in the three grains, barley, corn, and rye. To be bourbon, it must be over 50% corn (the best of the three grains) and aged in 100% new American Oak barrells (usually with a heavy char or toast). Jack Daniels is everywhere in America but is much more expensive than even Jim Beam. Now import is a totally different thing. Jack Daniels is actually very expensive in Asial esp Japan and China, where it is considered excellent. So to see JD, and even Johnny Walker Red (a high quailty blened Scoth Whisky) seems very srange if the Raven is a dive bar.

Single malt is a totally different story, actually all canidain, scoth, and Irish Whiskey are all very different
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Old 10-27-2005, 08:41 PM   #12
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I agree, the whole thing is fishy . . . The ude she is int he drinking contest with looks Scottish, not Asian, well he actually looks drunk, so I guess that makes him Irish.

I thought the drinking game loser is a identified as an Australian (Austrian?) climber. Perhaps the Raven was a jumping off point for climbing parties and many left bottles with their hosts as parting gifts.

roundshort, think Brad Pitt here.
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Old 10-27-2005, 09:51 PM   #13
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A mountaineering base is what I've always imagined the setting to be and
would explain why the matte doesn't show any other signs of population.
The crowd at The Raven that night appears to be an Australian climbing party
and their sherpas celebrating a hearty climb. Maybe their ascent was cut short
due to bad weather? It doesn't look pleasant out there. (Winter is on its way
and I really hate to think about snow right now)!

Joe, good explanation for why the bottles would be there. These threads
below touched on the subject, too.

Australian Climber
http://raven.theraider.net/showthread.php?t=7487

Raiders Nepalian Drink
http://raven.theraider.net/showthread.php?t=7512

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Old 10-28-2005, 11:09 AM   #14
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Hmm.. sketchy Joe, I'll buy it as it tells us how buys it, but more importantly, who the hell sells it to her?
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Old 10-31-2005, 09:47 PM   #15
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Hmm.. sketchy Joe, I'll buy it as it tells us how buys it, but more importantly, who the hell sells it to her?

Forget the $$$ for the booze -- where did the beams come from that could support a roof for the main room in the Raven???? The size of that room is the only thing that gives it away as a set.
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It could be worse. There could be shelves full of cardboard painted to look like books.
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It could be worse. There could be shelves full of cardboard painted to look like books.


or a warehouse full of crates?!?

Besides, I doubt liquor cost much shortly after prohibition ended in the States. They were probably selling it hand and foot.
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It could be worse. There could be shelves full of cardboard painted to look like books.


Those shelves in LC are the single worst set in the whole series (although if you really look at Club Obi Wan in LC, it disappoints as well).
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Besides, I doubt liquor cost much shortly after prohibition ended in the States. They were probably selling it hand and foot.

Personally, I think she was just liquidating Abner's private reserve.

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Those shelves in LC are the single worst set in the whole series (although if you really look at Club Obi Wan in LC, it disappoints as well).

Club Obi Wan in LC??? Must be some unrevealed footage from the vault!!!
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Club Obi Wan in LC??? Must be some unrevealed footage from the vault!!!

[Laughing] Cut me some slack here, I'm watching MNF. (and that Club Obi Wan set still sucks).
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[Laughing] Cut me some slack here, I'm watching MNF. (and that Club Obi Wan set still sucks).

Yeah, I thought that the South Seas Club in The Rocketeer was a lot more interesting.
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Yeah, I thought that the South Seas Club in The Rocketeer was a lot more interesting.

I haven't watched it since it first came out on video. I'll check it out.

EDIT: and props for the liquidating Abner's reserves quip. The Inner-Demons raise their heads again.
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Personally, I think she was just liquidating Abner's private reserve.

Horrible pun. Besides, I thought Indy was the alcoholic.
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Horrible pun. Besides, I thought Indy was the alcoholic.

Says the man with the new avatar (whatever that means).
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Says the man with the new avatar (whatever that means).


The avatar, or your quote?
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