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Old 03-30-2006, 03:37 AM   #1
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Are Indy and his dad immortal now?

Just watched Last crusade and never really thought about it but since they both drank from the grail are they both now immortal?
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Old 03-30-2006, 04:53 AM   #2
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No, because they left the temple. Also the two brothers who left the temple died.
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Old 03-30-2006, 06:10 AM   #3
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So they could only be immortal if they stayed in the temple? So if Donovan wanted to rule the world or whatever he would have to do it from within the temple? sounds a bit rubbish.
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Old 03-30-2006, 07:13 AM   #4
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Obviously he's not immortal since we will (hopefully) see him older in Indy 4.


About Donovan, good question...anyone?
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Old 03-30-2006, 08:50 AM   #5
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For one last time on this issue....

THE DRINKER HAD TO REMAIN BEHIND THE SEAL TO BE IMMORTAL - "THATS THE PRICE OF IMMORTALITY". THEY CROSSED IT, THEY'RE MORTAL.

Simple.

And of course this would have applied to Donavon. None of them realised that bit of the grail lore is all - it wasn't even in henry sr's grail diary.
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Old 03-30-2006, 11:20 AM   #6
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That's one of those "too good to be true" scenarios.

You'll live forever, but you'll do it alone in the desert without internet access.
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Old 03-30-2006, 12:37 PM   #7
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What would happen if Indy have fallen in the gap? Would he die or would he just spend a lot of time geting out of there?
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Old 03-30-2006, 12:59 PM   #8
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My guess is..huh...DIE?
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Old 03-30-2006, 07:32 PM   #9
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good queston, when they say immortal, do they mean, cant die from anything, or cant die from only old age?

but! tdrinking from the cup healed jones snr bullet wound, so that would mean if indi fell, he would be stuck under gorund for ever!

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Old 03-30-2006, 08:32 PM   #10
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No, because they left the temple. Also the two brothers who left the temple died.

always read the small print, huh.
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Old 03-30-2006, 09:01 PM   #11
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No, Indy and Henry are not immortal. Crossing the seal was the boundry of the Grail's power. As it was said above, the Knight explained it.

Did it give Henry and Indy a longer life? That is a possiblity.
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Old 03-30-2006, 09:12 PM   #12
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No, because they left the temple. Also the two brothers who left the temple died.
"Of extremely old age"
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Old 03-31-2006, 03:52 AM   #13
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Yeah because the first guys stayed in the temple for a few hundred years or so.
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Old 03-31-2006, 06:59 AM   #14
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Listen, the grail did not cross the seal. It fell in the earth gap before the seal. And since Indy did not still pass the seal himself there is no reason why he wouldn't still be immortal if he fell in the gap.
Do not just arogantly respond, think about it.
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Old 03-31-2006, 09:12 AM   #15
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Well, it'll be nice to see how they work out this little immortality question in Indy IV with an aged Ford...
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Old 03-31-2006, 10:08 AM   #16
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Listen, the grail did not cross the seal. It fell in the earth gap before the seal. And since Indy did not still pass the seal himself there is no reason why he wouldn't still be immortal if he fell in the gap.
Do not just arogantly respond, think about it.


He has a point, If the water healed a fatal wound in Jones Sr., than they could possibly write that when drank from it healed whatever maybe wrong with you, makeing you a "new man" ie, healing any cancers, livers, etc. . .thus extending life . . . just a thought
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Old 03-31-2006, 11:57 AM   #17
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They didn't know what magical power to assign the grail at first, so they borrowed from the Monkey King script: a peach brings Indy back from the dead in the garden, and Kezure disintegates when he eats a peach outside the garden (because he's evil).

It's possible that Henry and Indy were cured of every existing and potential ailment, down to the genetic level... who knows? (In the Mad parody, Henry turned into a young 007.)

Why are the knights so old? I think there's something in the novelization stating every year you age a day. So much for immortality. If he was truly immortal, why the sword and chain mail? Maybe he ventures beyond the seal for water or maintenance or curiosity, aging only then. I wonder if he'd mind a little company (assuming his oath permits it) if Elsa survived the fall. He wouldn't have to wait 60 years for a cure for erectile dysfunction.
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Old 03-31-2006, 12:01 PM   #18
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I like it Moe, Elsa, that slut, likes older guys . . .

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Old 03-31-2006, 12:03 PM   #19
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Why are the knights so old? I think there's something in the novelization stating every year you age a day.
It was more like "aging every day you don't drink from the grail" which means that one sip from the cup doesn't make anyone immortal, but more like stops aging for a short while. And yes, the knight can indeed be killed. He just won't die of old age as long as he keeps drinking from the cup.
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Old 04-01-2006, 03:43 PM   #20
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Well, it'll be nice to see how they work out this little immortality question in Indy IV with an aged Ford...

Immortality doesn't mean you stay young forever. Look at the knight, he was old looking and very weak.
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Old 04-04-2006, 06:38 PM   #21
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he should have grabbed some of that holy water and placed it in his canteen! Unless the holy water had to remain inside the pool?
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Old 04-04-2006, 08:17 PM   #22
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man, to sum up the last 2 pages,

basicly to be immortal you had to stay behind the seal. once you cross it, thats it, you start aging again.

We have no evidence why the night aged, we assume because he ventured out past the seal every once in a while.

also, because we saw jones snr's wound get healed, we assume drinking from the cup would have healed the jones boys of any other illnesses that they might have had. thus extending their life, e.g if they had ass cancer and didnt know it, it would have been cured.

So, to answer the question asked, NO they arnt immortal.

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Old 04-04-2006, 08:50 PM   #23
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Henry still carries the bullet, right? Even if it's disrupting a major organ or artery? If the bullet dissolved, I suppose fillings would have dissolved too. And cavities.

Is this thread immortal?
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Old 04-04-2006, 10:43 PM   #24
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nope, cause the question has been answerd a million times allready!

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Old 04-05-2006, 03:47 AM   #25
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Imagine the missing scene of the TLC
Just before Indy dips the cup into the water Brody comes in runing. "Sorry Indy, but my hemoroids are killing me" He pushes Indy away and sit's into the bowl "psssssssss, ahhhhhhhhhhh". Indy - "Well, I aint drinking from there, now"
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