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Old 04-05-2006, 04:39 AM   #26
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the catch wasnt you cant cross the seal and retain the grails powers, it was that the grail couldnt cross the seal which stops you from being immortal. the grail doesnt give you immortality, only lengthens your life. the whole conundrum was that to be immortal you needed to stay with the grail and drink from it rituously. so is indy immortal? no, but he does have a longer life. "the price of immortality...", those who gain power are afraid to lose it, that is the curse of immortality that you have to stay with the grail, not that you cant have immortality once you cross a seal because as i said; grail equal long life, not immortality. ie. knight had to drink from it continuously.
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Old 04-05-2006, 09:37 AM   #27
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Somebody earlier said "think about it... and don't just reply arrogantly" or words to that effect. Its not arrogant to state the simple truth and say that I cannot believe people still have difficulty grasping this remarkably easy concept from a not-too-intellectual film. They're not immortal. They crossed the seal. I'll go on for hours typing this same tripe if it makes me less arrogant but I don't see what I'm doing wrong??

And to answer other comments, immortality doesn't equal invulnerability. Not being all high and mighty here, I just read my Asterix the Gaul when I was a kid! In there it stated that drinking the magic potion made them invincible not invulnerable - I.e. they'd still die if the hapless romans stabbed them a gazillion times. Lesson for those still struggling to understand the intellectual ramifications of Last Crusade, the chain mail was needed to stop the knight being hacked to death. If he manages to abstain from such a fate - aided no doubt by residing in a cave in the middle of the desert for 800 years - then he'll keep plodding on for ever, provided he takes a sip of that sweet sweet grail juice every so often (apparently in the book).

Someone else said Indy didnt personally cross the seal????? Perplexed by this one. Surely you noticed him outside with his dad and buddies riding off into the sunset an' all?? Means he crossed the seal... personally.

So yes, internal maladies may well have been cured but he's not immortal. Just not poorly.

Is this clear enough?? Have I thought about this enough before stating exactly what I stated before?? If you consider this tone arrogant then tough, your own ignorance is a bigger issue for you I assure you!?
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Old 04-05-2006, 09:57 AM   #28
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The gap that Indy almost fell in was in front of the seal, not beyond it.
So my question was, what would happen if he fell in?
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Old 04-05-2006, 10:05 AM   #29
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The gap that Indy almost fell in was in front of the seal, not beyond it.
So my question was, what would happen if he fell in?

He'd die. Immortal, not invulnerable. He'd stand no more a chance of surviving than Elsa.
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Old 04-05-2006, 10:59 AM   #30
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We understand, StwongBwidge. They're not immortal. It's just that every answer yields two more questions about the grail temple. Questions like:

Wouldn't a doddering old knight eventually fall off the bridge into the abyss?
Why can't the grail go back outside?
Why do the false grails kill ya?
Etc., etc.
(maybe an image of the Great Seal would lend some clues...)
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Old 04-05-2006, 11:12 AM   #31
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We understand, StwongBwidge. They're not immortal. It's just that every answer yields two more questions about the grail temple. Questions like:

Wouldn't a doddering old knight eventually fall off the bridge into the abyss?
Why can't the grail go back outside?
Why do the false grails kill ya?
Etc., etc.
(maybe an image of the Great Seal would lend some clues...)

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Old 04-05-2006, 08:01 PM   #32
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ummmm, yes........

anyways, i was thing more along the lines of,

what did the knight eat? - did the cup fill you up?
what did he do for fun? - he read the same book for 2000 years?

why did they have a knight to look after it for? couldnt they just bury it at the bottom of the abyss, and not leave any clues to where it is?

why do people ask dumb ass questions to a movie thats suppose to be entertaining?

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Old 04-06-2006, 05:00 AM   #33
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why did they have a knight to look after it for? couldnt they just bury it at the bottom of the abyss, and not leave any clues to where it is?

The Grail was a Holy one, you know.
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Old 04-06-2006, 07:27 AM   #34
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Another question... where did the water come from that they drank? Does it every run out?

Could putting coca cola in the grail have the same effect as water?
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